"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
Robert Morein wrote:
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
Robert Morein wrote:
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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Like you Morein, AFAIK Richman has offered no evidence on RAO
that suggests knowledge of the difference between an ohm and a
volt.
Which is,l of course, irrelevant re. knowledge or lack of knowledge
about various audio phenomena.
Between the grotesque typos and the abject ignorance, this has to be one
of
the funniest posts I've ever seen on RAO. It is also a tacit admission
that
I'm right - neither Richman nor Morein know the difference between
an ohm and a volt.
Definition of "tacit":
Definition: [adj] indicated by necessary connotation
though not expressed directly; "gave silent consent"; "a tacit
agreement"; "the understood provisos of a custody agreement"
It is clear that neither Dr. Richman nor I have given out consent, as
required by the above definition.
The definition above does not absolutely require explicit consent on your
parts. Indeed, the use of the word by me indicates that no verbal consent
has been given, nor is one expected.
Simply another symptom of ***BAD SCIENCE*** from Arny Krueger's
early onset dementia.
I believe that another has said that if bad science killed the perpetrator,
Morein would already be dead. I'm sure we can work out an extension for you,
Richman.
As is his custom, compulsive liar Krueger simply tries to attribute
to others words they neither spoke nor implied.
It's really quite simple Richman or (Morien). Demonstrate that you do know
the difference between an ohm and a volt and my claim is easily falsified.
How many times do I have to repeat this offer. Instead, we get ludicrous
claims that knowledge of the difference between an ohm and a volt is
irrelevant to an understanding of audio.
Since this documented slanderer has no regard for facts, this is not
surprising.
Since the alleged documentation of my slandering is provided by one or more
proven liars, what difference does it make?
Point of order here - since Richman and Morein by their own admission,
don't
know the difference between an ohm and a volt, how can either
sensibly comment on the importance and relevance of this knowledge?
Once again, we do not "admit." Admission is a volitional act. Since
we have not admitted what you claim, you are misinterpreting us to
serve your twisted needs.
The balls are in in your court gentlemen - instead of denying that knowledge
of the difference between an ohm and a volt is relevant to audio, just
conclusively demonstrate evidence of that knowledge.
Agreed. In point of fact, such nonsensical statements from Krueger
provide more evidence that he is delusional, i.e. suffering from a
fixed belief system that is unsupported by factual evidence.
If irony killed! Richman and Morein are among RAO's leading victims of this
disorder, and what's really strange is the fact that they are proud of it!
Let me put it this way - think about all the audio products that are
officially characterized in terms of ohms and volts. Every speaker,
every power amplifier, every thing that operates on electrical power,
every active
and passive signal processor... the list is seemingly endless.
Consider how nonsensical those characterizations are if you don't
know the difference between an ohm and a volt!
Once again, no admission on our part that we do not know the meaning
of the above terms.
Only the tacit one composed of your ongoing silence, gentlemen.
Why do you insist on applying an interpretation of the words of
others which does not conform to the intended meaning?
I suspect that Krueger, given his woeful lack of insight into either
the character of knowledge of others, is simply engaging in another
pitiful attempt to fool the RAO public. What is so hilarious about
this is the obvious fact that it does not take a degree in any
physical science to know the difference between a volt and an ohm.
Never said it does, which makes your obvious ignorance even more laughable!
More to the point, Krueger simply demonstrates that he has neither the
motivation nor the intelligence (let alone the integrity) to actually
determine in any way the validity of his ludicrous, false claim about
knowledge of ohms or volts.
That would be a lie. You've been asked to demonstrate that knowledge any way
you see fit. Your ongoing silence and voluminous obfuscations speak very
loudly.
So, given his obvious inability to (a) make truthful statements, or
(b) evaluate the validity of the fabrications he creates, why should
anybody believe this compulsive liar and fraud?
Obviously, you are both worried that someone might believe me, given the
volume of obfuscatory prose that you are posting on the topic.
Consider how meaningful those characterizations are to persons who
do know the difference between an ohm and a volt.
Now compare and contrast the highly limited potential audio
knowledge of Morein and Richman who admit they don't know the
difference between an ohm and a volt, with the vast potential for
audio knowledge by persons who do know the difference between an
ohm and a volt.
The third statement by Krueger that we "admit" that we don't know the
difference between an ohm and a volt.
You've been asked to demonstrate that knowledge any way you see fit. Your
ongoing silence and voluminous obfuscations speak very loudly.
This critical admission also makes at least one of Morein's former
claims into a lie.
No admission is made.
At this point, none is needed. You've been asked to demonstrate that
knowledge any way you see fit. Your ongoing silence and voluminous
obfuscations speak very loudly.
His fraudulent and false statements, repeated for no apparent reason
other than to satisfy his own twisted ego, provide further testimony
to his true mission on RAO - to distribute propaganda. His
agenda-driven propaganda, filled with ludicrous lies and completely
unsupported false claims, ironically just helps to convince anybody
not exposed to his lies and paranoid conspiracy theories in the past,
that his credibility is zero.
Easy to say, hard to prove.
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:41:33 -0600
From: "Robert Morein"
Message-ID:
"I've passed the prelim in both theoretical physics and electrical
engineering,"
AFAIK this is difficult or impossible to do without knowing the
difference between an ohm and a volt.
Conclusion: Morein does know the difference between an ohm and a volt.
Without additional supporting evidence, that could easily be a false
conclusion.
knowing the difference between a volt and an ohm, as different
units of electrical measurement, is absurd.
Since you admit that don't know what that difference between an ohm
and a volt is Richman, how can you claim to judge? This is typical
of the arrogance and ignorance of Morein and Richman - they pretend to
be qualified
to judge that for which they lack the basic knowledge required to
judge. They are like wannabe automotive engineers who don't know
the difference between a foot and a pound. Or like chemists who
don't know the difference between a gram and a mole. Or like a cook
in the US who does not know the difference between a teaspoon and a
degree. Or like a banker who does not know the difference between a
percentage point and a dollar. The list is endless.
Or an Arny Krueger who does not know the difference between a truth
and a lie?
I seem to have been able to catch you both in enough lies to document my
claim that I know the difference. Indeed, you guys implicitly admit that I
know the difference between the truth and a lie when you accuse me of being
a liar. Implicit in lying is knowing what the truth is, and that implies the
knowledge of the difference between the truth and a lie. In short, you've
just made liars of yourself, again!
Knowledge of that difference has nothing to do, of course, with
training or background in electrical engineering.
Of course not.
The sort of nonsense one hears from a person who never took
electrical engineering course number one - which is BTW perfectly
normal for persons with degrees in the liberal arts, especially
psychology.
Krueger again commits a blatant lie, further verifying his woeful
ignorance of psychology, which is not considered one of the "liberal
arts".
Then these web pages are all lies because they place psychology in their
schools of liberal arts:
http://www.psu.edu/admissions/academ...bacc/psych.htm
http://www.cla.sc.edu/PSYC/
http://www.wesley.edu/academics/libe...sychology.html
http://www.utexas.edu/student/regist...h08/ch08h.html
http://www2.mercer.edu/Liberalarts/S...gy/default.htm
http://www.psychology.duq.edu/
http://www.fau.edu/websched/latest/0208/LA8240.html
This is not surprising since he has attempted in the past on
RAO o smear this profession, which is generally considered to be one
of the social sciences. More specifically, the field of clinical
psychology, which includes such activities as psychological
assessments of people, and various forms of psychotherapy designed
to help ameliorate various types of emotional distress, including
Adjustment Disorders, Psychotic Disorders, and Personality Disorders
- to mention 3 of the more common forms of diagnosable abnormal
behavior with which it deals - has never been considered by
knowledgeable, intelligent people to be one of the "liberal arts". So
Krueger simply demonstrates his colossal ignorance and/or willingness
to lie when he makes such a stupid statement. The many peer-reviewed
journals in which huge amounts of empirical research are published on
an ongoing basis, complete with descriptions of experimental design,
statistical analysis and results, etc. make Krueger's poorly informed
statements risible.
Yes, according to Richman Penn Sate, University of Texas, and any number of
other schools that grant degrees in psychology under their schools of
liberal arts don't know what they are doing. LOL!
Knowledge of the difference between ohms and volts is taught by
freshman and
physics classes, and required knowledge prior to entry of many courses
that
are at the core of any electrical engineering program.
For example, per http://www.eecs.mit.edu/ug/brief-guide.html the
departmental requirements for a BSEE program include the following
courses:
6.002 Circuits and Electronics
6.003 Signals and Systems
And where did you go to school, Arny?
It's a matter of public record - go look it up yourself in google.
Surely not M.I.T. on the banks of the Charles River.
Surely not. But I thought that their engineering program has a decent
reputation.
You can read what these courses entail at
http://student.mit.edu/catalog/m6a.html
Basically, they require knowledge of the difference between ohms and
volts.
For that matter
the use of sound scientific methodology concerning comparative
evaluation of 2 or more products in the same research experiment
has little, if anything to do with electrical engineering per se.
I'm sure that this claim will have any number of actual electrical
engineers
rolling in the aisles.
I don't think so.
OK, they might be crying.
Since audio equipment is evaluated within the context
of its specifications, and those specifications are given in terms
of ohm, volts and a few other common engineering units of measure, it
is impossible
to properly evaluate audio gear without knowledge of the difference
between
ohms and volts.
Since in the above statement, you have appropriated the word
"properly", you can ascribe whatever criteria you want to it. But
that doesn't make it true.
The falsify it.
The purpose of home audio equipment is to
induce pleasure in the listener. The terms "ohm" and "volt" have
vague connection to that, as evidenced by the many kinds of
equipment with inferior specifications that many listeners claim
provide greater pleasure.
Confused consumers make all sorts of weird claims.
It has to do with experimental design, knowledge of statistical
analysis
methods, and of course, the honesty to use them in an ethical way.
None of which you adhere to.
Horsefeathers.
It also has to do with operating the equipment within its specified
parameters which are given in terms of ohm volts and a very few
other common engineering measures.
No, it doesn't. It has to do with operating the equipment in a way
that pleases the listener.
So you guys think that operating equipment outside its specified parameters
is a good way to please the listener?
LOL!
Whether talking about his hallowed ABX protocols or his deceptive
attempt to use statistics here, many of found him to be severely
lacking.
By whom?
Given that this many includes people like Morein and Richman, who
have now admitted that they don't know the difference between ohms
and volts, it is obviously an irrelevant criteria.
No admission is made.
None is needed. your constant obfuscation and deceptions make it clear that
you're trying to bullcrap your way out of this corner.
Your constant repetition of this falsehood
detracts from your argument. You would be more credible if you would
stick with what your detractors actually say.
Arny, you are a ***BAD SCIENTIST***
Coming from hopeless fools like Morein and Richman, that is as much
effectively positive feedback as I can take in one day!
Bruce J. Richman