Arny Krueger wrote:

"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message


Robert Morein wrote:

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

Like you Morein, AFAIK Richman has offered no evidence on RAO that
suggests
knowledge of the difference between an ohm and a volt.

Which is,l of course, irrelevant re. knowledge or lack of knowledge
about various audio phenomena.

Between the grotesque typos and the abject ignorance, this has to be one of
the funniest posts I've ever seen on RAO. It is also a tacit admission that
I'm right - neither Richman nor Morein know the difference between an ohm
and a volt.

Point of order here - since Richman and Morein by their own admission, don't
know the difference between an ohm and a volt, how can either sensibly
comment on the importance and relevance of this knowledge?

Let me put it this way - think about all the audio products that are
officially characterized in terms of ohms and volts. Every speaker, every
power amplifier, every thing that operates on electrical power, every active
and passive signal processor... the list is seemingly endless.

Consider how nonsensical those characterizations are if you don't know the
difference between an ohm and a volt!

Consider how meaningful those characterizations are to persons who do know
the difference between an ohm and a volt.

Now compare and contrast the highly limited potential audio knowledge of
Morein and Richman who admit they don't know the difference between an ohm
and a volt, with the vast potential for audio knowledge by persons who do
know the difference between an ohm and a volt.

This critical admission also makes at least one of Morein's former claims
into a lie.

NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:41:33 -0600
From: "Robert Morein"
Message-ID:

"I've passed the prelim in both theoretical physics and electrical
engineering,"

AFAIK this is difficult or impossible to do without knowing the difference
between an ohm and a volt.

knowing the difference between a volt and an ohm, as different units
of electrical measurement, is absurd.

Since you admit that don't know what that difference between an ohm and a
volt is Richman, how can you claim to judge? This is typical of the
arrogance and ignorance of Morein and Richman - they pretend to be qualified
to judge that for which they lack the basic knowledge required to judge.
They are like wannabe automotive engineers who don't know the difference
between a foot and a pound. Or like chemists who don't know the difference
between a gram and a mole. Or like a cook in the US who does not know the
difference between a teaspoon and a degree. Or like a banker who does not
know the difference between a percentage point and a dollar. The list is
endless.

Knowledge of that difference has nothing to do, of course, with
training or background in electrical engineering.

The sort of nonsense one hears from a person who never took electrical
engineering course number one - which is BTW perfectly normal for persons
with degrees in the liberal arts, especially psychology.

Knowledge of the difference between ohms and volts is taught by freshman and
physics classes, and required knowledge prior to entry of many courses that
are at the core of any electrical engineering program.

For example, per http://www.eecs.mit.edu/ug/brief-guide.html the
departmental requirements for a BSEE program include the following courses:

6.002 Circuits and Electronics
6.003 Signals and Systems

You can read what these courses entail at
http://student.mit.edu/catalog/m6a.html

Basically, they require knowledge of the difference between ohms and volts.

For that matter
the use of sound scientific methodology concerning comparative
evaluation of 2 or more products in the same research experiment has
little, if anything to do with electrical engineering per se.

I'm sure that this claim will have any number of actual electrical engineers
rolling in the aisles. Since audio equipment is evaluated within the context
of its specifications, and those specifications are given in terms of ohm,
volts and a few other common engineering units of measure, it is impossible
to properly evaluate audio gear without knowledge of the difference between
ohms and volts.

It has to do with experimental design, knowledge of statistical analysis
methods, and of course, the honesty to use them in an ethical way.

It also has to do with operating the equipment within its specified
parameters which are given in terms of ohm volts and a very few other common
engineering measures.

Whether talking about his hallowed ABX protocols or his deceptive
attempt to use statistics here, many of found him to be severely
lacking.

Given that this many includes people like Morein and Richman, who have now
admitted that they don't know the difference between ohms and volts, it is
obviously an irrelevant criteria.









As is his custom, Krueger persists in spewing ludicrous fabrications. He
completely fails to demonstrate any knowledge of statistical analysis. He
totally avoids the verifiable fact that he has no knowledge whatsoever re. the
audio backgrounds of eithe Mr. Morein or myself, and can only engage in babble
about "electrical engineering" while failing to address his woeful lack of
competence in the design or implementation of sound experimental design when
running his "tests". And of course, he fails to address the fact that over a 7
year period he has repeated slandered me by lying about my academic,
experiential and professional credentials.

And as for "audio knowledge", Krueger fails to justify his lengthy history of
attacks upon noted audio professionals such as Glen Zelniker, Paul Bambourough,
John Atkinson, and at times, even Jim Johnston - all of whom, have, in one form
or another, registererd their discust, scorn and ridicule when confronted with
Krueger's agenda-drriven lies and deceptions.


Bruce J. Richman, Ph.D.
Licensed Psychologist
Bruce J. Richman