"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message


Robert Morein wrote:

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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Like you Morein, AFAIK Richman has offered no evidence on RAO that
suggests
knowledge of the difference between an ohm and a volt.

Which is,l of course, irrelevant re. knowledge or lack of knowledge
about various audio phenomena.

Between the grotesque typos and the abject ignorance, this has to be one
of
the funniest posts I've ever seen on RAO. It is also a tacit admission
that
I'm right - neither Richman nor Morein know the difference between an ohm
and a volt.

Definition of "tacit":

Definition: [adj] indicated by necessary connotation though not
expressed directly; "gave silent consent"; "a tacit agreement"; "the
understood provisos of a custody agreement"


It is clear that neither Dr. Richman nor I have given out consent, as
required by the above definition.
Simply another symptom of ***BAD SCIENCE*** from Arny Krueger's early onset
dementia.


Point of order here - since Richman and Morein by their own admission,
don't
know the difference between an ohm and a volt, how can either sensibly
comment on the importance and relevance of this knowledge?

Once again, we do not "admit." Admission is a volitional act. Since we have
not admitted what you claim, you are misinterpreting us to serve your
twisted needs.

Let me put it this way - think about all the audio products that are
officially characterized in terms of ohms and volts. Every speaker, every
power amplifier, every thing that operates on electrical power, every
active
and passive signal processor... the list is seemingly endless.

Consider how nonsensical those characterizations are if you don't know the
difference between an ohm and a volt!

Once again, no admission on our part that we do not know the meaning of the
above terms.
Why do you insist on applying an interpretation of the words of others which
does not conform to the intended meaning?

Consider how meaningful those characterizations are to persons who do know
the difference between an ohm and a volt.



Now compare and contrast the highly limited potential audio knowledge of
Morein and Richman who admit they don't know the difference between an ohm
and a volt, with the vast potential for audio knowledge by persons who do
know the difference between an ohm and a volt.

The third statement by Krueger that we "admit" that we don't know the
difference between an ohm and a volt.


This critical admission also makes at least one of Morein's former claims
into a lie.

No admission is made.

NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:41:33 -0600
From: "Robert Morein"
Message-ID:

"I've passed the prelim in both theoretical physics and electrical
engineering,"

AFAIK this is difficult or impossible to do without knowing the difference
between an ohm and a volt.

Conclusion: Morein does know the difference between an ohm and a volt.

knowing the difference between a volt and an ohm, as different units
of electrical measurement, is absurd.

Since you admit that don't know what that difference between an ohm and a
volt is Richman, how can you claim to judge? This is typical of the
arrogance and ignorance of Morein and Richman - they pretend to be
qualified
to judge that for which they lack the basic knowledge required to judge.
They are like wannabe automotive engineers who don't know the difference
between a foot and a pound. Or like chemists who don't know the difference
between a gram and a mole. Or like a cook in the US who does not know the
difference between a teaspoon and a degree. Or like a banker who does not
know the difference between a percentage point and a dollar. The list is
endless.

Or an Arny Krueger who does not know the difference between a truth and a
lie?

Knowledge of that difference has nothing to do, of course, with
training or background in electrical engineering.

Of course not.

The sort of nonsense one hears from a person who never took electrical
engineering course number one - which is BTW perfectly normal for persons
with degrees in the liberal arts, especially psychology.

Knowledge of the difference between ohms and volts is taught by freshman
and
physics classes, and required knowledge prior to entry of many courses
that
are at the core of any electrical engineering program.

For example, per http://www.eecs.mit.edu/ug/brief-guide.html the
departmental requirements for a BSEE program include the following
courses:

6.002 Circuits and Electronics
6.003 Signals and Systems

And where did you go to school, Arny?


You can read what these courses entail at
http://student.mit.edu/catalog/m6a.html

Basically, they require knowledge of the difference between ohms and
volts.



For that matter
the use of sound scientific methodology concerning comparative
evaluation of 2 or more products in the same research experiment has
little, if anything to do with electrical engineering per se.

I'm sure that this claim will have any number of actual electrical
engineers
rolling in the aisles.

I don't think so.

Since audio equipment is evaluated within the context
of its specifications, and those specifications are given in terms of ohm,
volts and a few other common engineering units of measure, it is
impossible
to properly evaluate audio gear without knowledge of the difference
between
ohms and volts.

Since in the above statement, you have appropriated the word "properly", you
can ascribe whatever criteria you want to it. But that doesn't make it true.
The purpose of home audio equipment is to induce pleasure in the listener.
The terms "ohm" and "volt" have vague connection to that, as evidenced by
the many kinds of equipment with inferior specifications that many listeners
claim provide greater pleasure.


It has to do with experimental design, knowledge of statistical
analysis
methods, and of course, the honesty to use them in an ethical way.

None of which you adhere to.

It also has to do with operating the equipment within its specified
parameters which are given in terms of ohm volts and a very few other
common
engineering measures.

No, it doesn't. It has to do with operating the equipment in a way that
pleases the listener.


Whether talking about his hallowed ABX protocols or his deceptive
attempt to use statistics here, many of found him to be severely
lacking.

Given that this many includes people like Morein and Richman, who have now
admitted that they don't know the difference between ohms and volts, it is
obviously an irrelevant criteria.

No admission is made. Your constant repetition of this falsehood detracts
from your argument. You would be more credible if you would stick with what
your detractors actually say.

Arny, you are a ***BAD SCIENTIST***