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news The basic concept:

http://www.dhtrob.com/projecten/homeprojectselna1.htm

A user report:


http://www.dhtrob.com/impressies/hom...lna_inwood.htm


Taken by itself, this ludicrous mod supports your position
regarding sighted testing of equipment.

It doesn't have to be taken by itself. There are zillions of
examples of it on the web and elsewhere.

However, you use notions such
as these to discourage the individual who, lacking any outside
resources, wishes to conduct sighted tests to choose components for
personal use, or wishes to communicate observations based on sighted
testing to other individuals.

What's unclear about the fact that some audio gear sounds different
and some doesn't, but sighted evaluations all by themselves don't
provide a reliable means to determine which is which?

The valid middle ground is difficult for ideologues like
"dhtrob", or you, to comprehend.

I'm aware of the fact that many radicals confuse their marginal
thinking with that of some presumed middle-of-the-road viewpoint.
Furthermore, this isn't about political opinion, it's about a
physical hypothesis that can be reliably tested.

It is certainly true that sighted
testing can, and does in some instances lead to perception of
differences when there are none.

So far so good.

It is also true that many listeners
can, as a practical matter, discern differences that are important
to them.

Not a problem as long as these alleged differences reliably exist.

If the cost of exterminating imaginary perceptions is to make
unavailable a large body of informal, anecdotal comparative
knowledge, then the cure is not worth the treatment.

IOW, if imaginary perceptions are a big problem, nothing should be
done about them. This is crazy.

As most of us are aware of your unquenchable drive to
exterminate the sighted personal experience, and don't like it, we
suggest you turn your attention to testing toaster ovens.

Here, Morein presumes to speak for the majority of audiophilia. No
small ego, his.

There is
little information on the thermodynamic efficiency of these
appliances, and countless megawatts of electricity are wasted each
year by users who based their buy on sighted comparisons of the
chrome plating. Should you apply your gifts to this neglected
subject, it would be a great boon to mankind.

Another nonsense post from Morein.

I wouldn't dismiss it as nonsense.

Of course not, after all you authored this nonsense, Morein!

LOL!

Dr. Richman has very kindly offered other possibilities that may be
more within your realm of competence.

I don't see any evidence that Richman is technically competent enough in
the
area of electrical engineering to judge what is or is not in my realm of
competence. I presume that if he had any competence in the area of
engineering he would announce it every three days on the average, as he
has
with his alleged credentials in the area of psychology.

Like you Morein, AFAIK Richman has offered no evidence on RAO that
suggests
knowledge of the difference between an ohm and a volt. BTW please feel
free
to do so at your earliest convenience...

I'll be please to do so now:
An "ohm" is the mantric chant of Arny Krueger's religion. Pronounced
rhythmically, it is intended to stun it's victims into silence.
In Arny Krueger's religion, a "volt" is the unit of personal power. It is
the desire of all adherents to acquire as many volts as possible, by
shocking the public with revelations of "truth."
"Truth", according to Arny Krueger's religion, consists of a single tenet:
that Arny Krueger is the sole and exclusive purveyor of "truthful"
information. Unfortunately, Krueger's religion is self referential, failing
to escape Godel's Incompleteness Theorem. Krueger's definition of "truth" is
completely circular, as it is defined in terms of itself.