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Where have all the 'borgs gone? All that's left is the feeble-minded
Mikey
Bug-Eater. Much to my amazement, some Normals continue to "debate" with
Mickey about the value of aBxism. I don't think Mickey will ever
understand what's being said to him. But even if you believe he is
smart
enough to grasp it, in the end it's not a question of understanding but
of
religious devotion.

You think they're gone? In this war, there are no silver bullets, only
cough
medicine.

A war? This is audio, there's no life and death situation in audio.

With other 'borgs, like Ferstler and Dickless, the agenda is overt:
They
rail against the high prices of high-end audio. Their snarling hatred
of
Stereophile encapsulates their class warfare agenda. They don't try to
animate the lifeless corpse of aBxism as a smokescreen. Even the
Terrierborg has the honesty to admit that he resents the "elitist" aura
of
high-end audio.

Why, one wonders, do They resent high-end audio so much? These
uneducated,
uncomprehending curs slobber their devotion to "science" while making
mistake after mistake whenever they try to talk the talk. There was a
time
when home audio really was a do-it-yourself hobby. We also had to grow
our
own food once, and make our own clothes. Now we buy audio equipment.
Why
can't the 'borgs be happy that they can buy very good performance at
low
prices? Why do they so resent the very existence of high-priced stuff?

I think it's human envy, which feeds opportunistically on any advance by
one's peer.

Now we're getting somewhere, you envy us becausewe know how to get the
best
results without having to break the bank.

Zombies always pull down, toward the grave.

You've been digging a grave for audio enjoyment, that's for sure. You
have
nothing but whim worship and mysticism that audio Nirvana should not be
attainable unless you have gobs of money to spend. Fortunately for those
of
us who know better, all you need is decent amplification and great
speakers
and the knowledge of how to set the stuff up.

But envy of the
other person's economic situation is a small part. The abilities of
another
person to see the things one cannot see, to think the things one cannot
think, and yes, to hear what one cannot hear, is a passionate incitement
to
envy.

And as usual, you have no facts to back up your factitious assertions.

The other reason has to do with the personalities of engineers. They say
about themselves, "Anyone can build a device if there is enough money. A
good engineer can do it when there isn't." While this is a worthy goal,
it
spills over in a reflexive way. Recently, on this forum, I have raised
broad
questions about the physics of relay contacts.

Something you are obviously clueless about.

The disdain by some reflects
an engineering mentality that rejects inflation of costs by making
something
better than it has to be.

Most electronics are better than they need to be, because engineers
realize
that it's better to be a bit cautious and have something that won't burst
into flames. In the real world, that means using parts that are a few
pennies more expensive, not several dollars more.

These people fail to realize the special
responsibility that devolves upon a person or group who promote a
standard
device, or a standard way of doing things.

You fail to realize that the standars are already higher than they need to
be, because good engineers build them that way.

They will tell Normals that They don't care about prices, that what
They
hate is the "claims". Riiiiight. Let's pretend nobody ever exaggerates
the
supposed benefits of their products in order to sell them. Let's
pretend
all "claims" offered for consumer goods are fully tested and documented
for absolute "accuracy". How about "fat-free" foods that aren't really
free of fat? How about "clean" fuels that still cause pollution? How
about
"quick acting" pain pills that take 20 minutes to work?

The reality is that "tests" are meaningless for consumers. They don't
help
people. If you want to believe they are valuable, that's your
privilege,
but you're indulging in religious faith, not undertaking a "scientific"
experiment.

And the tests aren't actually available. Two separate concerns exist:
1. The transparency of the hardware

Which has already been demonstrated, you just refuse to accept it.
If you are so concerned, I point you to a web site that has a schematic
for
and ABX comaprator and you can build one yourself using any quality parts
you want.

2. The equivalence of discrimination during the test to equivalance
during
routine use.

You mean people either can hear difference or not.

A third, and very legitimate concern, could be that lying is actually a
legitimate part of the recreational activity.

It certainly is for you.

And why not? Entire religions
have been based upon acceptance of various "truths". When is Arny
Krueger
going to ABX the heavens for God? If hifi is part religion, what
business
do
nonbelievers have in busting it up and spoiling the fun?


You and the legions of duped SP believers are the religious zealots in
this
case.

We are so far from the arrival of both good testing and easy
accessibility
to the same, I agree with you.

Yo are so far from reality that you don't know that the ability to pass a
signal with out audible change has been a done deal for decades.

If I had more confidence in the gadgets, I
might have one for my own amusement. I might use it to chide my friends,
and
they might stop inviting me to visit


You have no friends, sock puppet Morein.

It's my personal opinion that if you can't distinguish an
audible difference from a preference based on some other criterion, you
probably lie to yourself about a lot of other stuff too. But lying
counts
for nothing for 'borgs, since they're engaged in a holy war, and Their
end
justifies (for Them) any and all means they can think of.

Yes, people do lie to themselves, and as you have noted above, to
others.
But it is unethical to fight lies with lies, which is what the 'borgs
have
chosen to do.

No, sock puppet Morein, that what you do, and your just ****ed that we
know
it and you are losing the battle to keep audio mystified for the common
person. You don't like the idea that Joe 6 pack might be able to have as
good a stereo as you have.

You're pathetic.

Mikey, you are a Joe Sixpack because you have an inferior mind.