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We see all manner of rhetorical and "what if" objections to controlled
listening alone testing. What is the alternative?

We sum up by concluding that ABX is a paradigm that, while theoretically
interesting, has not been implemented in a useful way in the real world.
We
note that the believers in ABX seem to own substandard amplifiers, and
possess low quality ears and brains.

Disregard the ABXers. Listen with your brain, and let your heart decide.

That certainly is one way to approach the issue, but it tends to be
expensive. Your heart always seems to prefer the high priced spread.

Norm

Norm, I'm always in two minds when contradicting you because
I believe you mean well and listen to others.
But....I think that like many others in this society you
believe that everyone is *equally* a victim of hype.
My watch cost me all of $15. Its been keeping time
perfectly for the last five years and that's all I want from a watch.
My car is the small Mazda which gets me satisfactorily from here to
there. Most of my system consists of 59 year old upgraded electrostats.
My preamps and amps were made for me by a guru friend who charged me
the price of (top grade) parts.
I auditioned things like Jadis and M. Levinson and did
not care for them at all. Apogee Diva sounded to me murky. Watt Puppy
like a movie house aggressive speaker that I could not live with at
home. I preferred by far ML CSL to their (once) top of the line hybrid
Monument.
Want more?
There is nothing wrong with not knowing what you're
listening to. It removes one source of bias: the urge to keep up with
the Joneses that (I'm saying it with all due respect) is more common in
North America than practically anywhere else. It does not change all
other biases that we all are made out of. I seek a system as close to
what I hear at the chamber music or symphonic concert as poss. (It will
never be quite
the same). That is my bias. I don't have to tell you that most have a
bias in favour of electronically amplified sound and will prefer a
system different from mine. Which is fine with me.
I find that ABX procedure kills my brain reception
centres in no time. Others feel differently. I do not seek to convince
them away from what they like.
All I'm asking is that they stop saying that whoever
doesn't use their preferred gimmick does not know what's good for him
and is not "scientific". In particular I object when they tell me that
their "yes, no" method has anything in common with medical therapeutic
research. I know something about that last and objective findings at
the end, not what the subject ticks off on a piece of paper, are a
prerequisite, Even in psychiatry the return to society and normal
functioning is sought not the placebo answer: "Yes doc , this pill sure
makes me feel better"
If ABX makes anyone feel better good luck to him- as
long as he does not bully me with it.
Ludovic Mirabel