"Scott Gardner" wrote in message

On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:26:21 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Scott Gardner" wrote in message

Thanks Scott. I didn't remember that one.

I hope that he's a bit more circumspect in the future. The fact
that he's "tracing" downloads seems a shade sinister.


All data servers have a log file of all the connections they
received. Studying IP address you can exactly know who has logged
in, how many time, what has been done...
This is a secret for nobody.
So why so much mysteries around this common fact ?


The *how* of what he's doing is no mystery. The question is, *why*
is he going through his server logs, doing lookups on some or all
of the IP addresses, and then posting the likely corporate
affiliation of visitors to his site on this newsgroup?

Shows how naive and ignorant you are, Scott. This kind of analysis
is a standard web log analysis program function.

Let's get this straight. I was never in doubt of *how* you did what
you did. My background in computers in general, and network
administration in particular, is more than adequate for this
discussion. I was more concerned with why you would post the results
of your analysis to this newsgroup.

Much ado about nothing...

No person's name was ever mentioned or for that part knowable or known.

Actually, I've been able to deduce several users identities on occasion, but
that's another story. I never revealed that info and never would.


Mentioning the names of domains that access one's web site is one of
those things that people who have web sites often do in casual
conversation.

Yes, but posting to a newsgroup is hardly "casual conversation".

Sure it is. This is casual conversation. RAO is not the front page of the
New York Times, in case somehow you thought it was Scott...

First, there's the worldwide scope of it, then there's the permanence
of it. The Dolby post of yours I quoted was over three years old, and
it took about a minute to find.

So what?

Let's put this in a way closer to home for you. The difference
between Usenet and "casual conversation" is the exact reason Wheeler's
suing you for libel and not slander.

Wheeler has lost his mind and thinks that RAO is the real world, and I guess
you have as well Scott. Is this a mental problem that is common among people
who claim their name is Scott?

LOL!

But here you go again Scott, trying to make an innocent act into a
major crime because I did it.

It's not a major crime - I never claimed it was. I just don't think
it's right to talk about "anonymity" when you've revealed the likely
corporate affiliation of at least two of your visitors.

Where has anybody's anonymity been compromised? Where was an actual person's
name mentioned?

I really appreciate the subtleness of what you're trying to do,
Scott.

and the beat goes on...

Scott tips his hand - he's in the sockpuppet wheel camp. I'd bet he's at
least as much of a real person as sockpuppet Yustabe...

LOL!