On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:59:04 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:31:53 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:


Yeah, about as much as I believe that people who use your web site
are protected by anonynimity.

Weil, this sentence shows how little you know about how web sites
work, not to mention being perfectly horrible English. They're not
protected by anonymity, their anonymity is protected by the
simplistic, HTML-only implementation of the web site.

Untrue.

In another post today Weil you claimed that I didn't address this post, but
obviously I did, about 4 hours before you made your claim. So are you being
stupid, lying or what?

Actually, you didn't directly address my point. You simply tried to
obsfucate.

In any case Weil you're being vague, and I presume that's because you know
so little about how web sites work. Who is putting you up to this weirdness,
anyway?

Weil, why don't you expose your ignorance further by trying to describe the
means by which one of my web sites obtains personal information about people
who browse it or download files from it.

When you tell an open forum that someone from Sony Corporation has
apparently downloaded material from your site, you acknowledge that
you have obtained personal information about people who browse it or
download files from it.

Let's start with the basics - the standard monitor records from just about
any web server contain the IP address of users whose usage is actually
logged by the web server. This is generally just a subset of total usage.

In addition, these IP addresses typically lead to a bank of
dynamically-assigned IP addresses that on a good day can be pinned down to a
city, and that's about that.

So, you were lying about Sony then?

In the case of AOL and several other large ISPs
they are global to the entire ISP.

AFAIK, it's hard for a web site owner to learn much else about the web
site's users within the context of a pure-HTML web site.

So what's the purported scheme that I've supposedly got going here?

Shall I say the magic word again?

Sony.

Here are the facts.

Your web site has no privacy policy.

Therefore, you are free to use the information gleaned from the server
logs however you wish.

You used this information to "unmask" publically one of the users of
your site.

Therefore, you cannot claim that people have anonymity because you
have already breached that so-called anonymity.

And since you are willing to do this, who knows *what* you're
privately using this information for? You might be selling it to
finance your operations, for all we know.