Arny Krueger wrote:

"Lionel" wrote in message


Arny Krueger wrote:

"Jacob Kramer" wrote in message
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How do you explain this one:

"On March 30, 11 days into the war, Rumsfeld said in an ABC News
interview when asked about WMDs: "We know where they are. They're in
the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north
somewhat."

In comments Sept. 10 before the National Press Club, Rumsfeld
conceded that he may have overreached. "I said, 'We know they're in
that area," Rumsfeld said. "I should have said, 'I believe we're in
that area. Our intelligence tells us they're in that area,' and
that was our best judgment."

http://truthout.org/docs_03/111103I.shtml

Hint: he was lying.


Hint, Jacob Kramer thinks that he can read other people's minds. At
this point it appears that Rumsfeld was wrong. But without presuming
omniscience on his part, we don't know the he knew he was wrong.


Arnold, in the absolute you are right.
*But* if you authorize me to speculate I think there is 99.999%
chances that he knew he was wrong, and you know that... So he was
lying. ;-)


You surely don't need my authorization to speculate.

;-)


Most of people knows, has understood now, that WMD was
only a pretext to enter in Iraq. I'm sure you aren't so naive and
that you perfectly know that all this Holywood show was orchestrated
for the mass-media.


Frankly, if the WMD fiasco was orchestrated, I would sincerely hope that the
parties involved would have done a better job!

It wasn't orchestrated. Here's what happened, near as I can tell:

Sadam knew where all the weapons were and destroyed them, but knew he
had a final card that he could pull to get the U.S. in trouble. All
he had to do was take the remaining weapons, get rid of them, and destory
the paperwork. He knew that the U.S. would not possibly believe anything
that he said. And we fell for it. We were convinced that he was hiding
WMDs and all his insistance that they were just made our military look
harder and get angrier(obviously he was lying as Sadam never tells the
truth). All he had to do was stall a LITTLE bit and act cagy and there
was no way that we would think that they were destroyed.

There are none. He let us think that there were to give us a black eye
in the U.N. and to give himself(if he survived) a possible claim with
the U.N. when he pops up a decade later in exile somewhere. He's not
interested in power, mind you, but damaging the U.S. reputation, and
a claim by him a decade from now about the invasion being illegal
(which would certainly pass in the U.N.) would hurt us more than any
terrorist attack possibly could.