"trotsky" wrote in message
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That's not a valid comparison. At some point in our existence we are
going to reach the point where zero casualities is the only think
acceptable, if we haven't already. In the old days dying in battle
was
supposed to be a thing of honor, now it's only a waste of life.



There is no honor in it. It is a waste of life. However, sometimes it
is
necessary, to prevent a greater waste of life or to preserve liberty.


I guess I'm a little unclear on this "preservation of liberty", too.
If, in Iraq, the majority of the populace is likely to vote for a
religious based government, then we're not really interested in
democracy, right? We're *dictating* what form of government they can
have. That's dictatorship, and has nothing to do with liberty.



You made a leap that I never made.

My statement was generalized, about war.


Was it? Where is this "preservation of liberty" in 2003?



All I was talking about was thet war is sometimes necessary to
prevent greater loss of life or to preserve liberty.
I didn't say those were the only reasons nations got to war.
I didn't say that those were the only valid reasons nations go to war.
I didn't say anything about Iraq.
I didn't say that the reason for the Iraq war was to preserve liberty.

Stop making assumptions, and
stop putting words in my mouth.
Other than that, I am not going to get into an
argument with you for the purpose of supporting statements
that I never made, nor ever intended to be made.



As far as your comments about a religious based government,
that is not likely to be a demoracy, so, after the initial
vote, the people can never change back to a pluralistic
government. Use common sense, suppose they change their mind
after ten years. TOO BAD! They got a theocratic dictatorship
they can't get rid of.


Of course. Taking over the whole world's the only answer.


Again:
Stop making assumptions, and
stop putting words in my mouth.
Other than that, I am not going to get into an
argument with you for the purpose of supporting statements
that I never made, nor ever intended to be made.






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