Eddie's about blow his top again:

EddieM Jun 13, 3:18 pm show options

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From: "EddieM" - Find messages by this author
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:18:39 GMT
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EddieM still doesn't get it:

PD the OP comments regard the effect of listening training
program to the conscious awareness in discerning particular
differences among musical sounds. McKelvy is talkin about the
difficulty faced by experienced listener to enjoy music when
listening between an inferior and grander system.


Because, IMO when you listen to good equipment you have been
trained on what to listen for. You learn the differences between
inferior and superior playback. [...]



You mean to say that the listening training program proposed by your
best friend, Arny, teaches you to learn the difference between inferior
against superior playback ? You need a training 'program' for that ?

I"m saying it teaches you how to listen for differences, better than
you would be able to without the training.

I don't know if it necessary, but it is something that happens when you
listen to more accurate playback. Every audio publication I've ever
seen provides lists of music types and artists that they feel will help
you better evaluate an audio system. In so doing, they are asking you
to train yourself on how and what to listen for. Are such lists
subversive? How is training detremental if it helps you better evalute
an audio system?



They're are telling us to listen to well engineered musical recordings
of various types and artist. Now go on tell me what your sidekick,
Arny, wants me to do under his propose 'listener training program.

Listen better.

It's the act of listening to better systems that trains one in how to
listen. If you hear better playback, you hear things you never heard
from a lesser system.


This is what High-End magazines such as TAS and SP, to
name just a few, seem to put accross. I'm glad you agree with them.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. To bad you're not a stopped
clock.

It would seem that you and PD consider education, to be detrimental.


I don't know what you mean.

Finally something we can agree on.


I listen to better system as much as I can
with good recordings.

Why? Aren't you afraid you'll get trained on how to listen better by
being exposed to better playback?