Joseph Oberlander wrote:
wrote:
"Certain speakers maintain coherency at close listening distances,
while others fall apart. The Kef Uni-Q speakers are good at this. So
are bookshelf speakers in general."
Maggies are fine close-up. Their huge radiating area also
means that they play quite well at lower volumes.
Yes. I totally agree with this. But I suspect the probelm is that this
is not a dedicated listening room. I get the feeling that there are
furniture issues. Bookshelf speakers excel in this situation.
OF course,
they aren't Tannoy's dual-concentrics...
"I will almost certainly end up with bookshelf speakers. I have Time
Windows now which have served me well for many years. But they don't
seem to do much in this room and they are larger than I want."
So he needs in-wall or near zero footprint. UNfortunately,
small booksehlf speakers have all of the problems that he
seems to have problems with.
Not at all. They are easy to move they are not as easily affected by
things like coffee tables and other furniture.
I mentioned an alternative that he may not have thought of.
An alternative that simply needs a lot of breathing room. something I
don't think his room will have. Hey if he can acomidate them fine. I
just doubt that the Maggies offer a solution if the KEFs were a
problem.
http://artcousticusa.com/productdetails_artwork.asp
Here is the other, if a bit pricey. They actually sound
pretty decent, though. A smart person, of course, would
just buy the artwork and make a frame for the MMG. Presto -
instant clone for a fraction of the price.
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Mount them 4-6 inches off
the wall on dowels, like a wall hanging or acoustic treatment.
That'll make sound like crap.
So says you.
So says me and the designers and manufacturers of just about every
dipole speaker ever made.
Compared to a smaller bookshelf speaker, any
flat-panel will sound better in his situation.
Wrong.
Flat or
in-wall. I know which alternative sounds best of the two.
What are you tralking about here? We are talking about bookshelf
speakers in a multipurpose room v. dipoles in a multipurpose room. You
are proposing he put dipoles against a wall. Bad idea. May as well get
Bose if you want to sound smeared like that.
Have you been taking lessons from Pinkerton in the placement of dipole
speakers?
He obviously has major problems to deal with,
Pinkerton? I agree. But what is the cure for chronic asshole syndrome?
hence his
asking for a potential solution. Me, though, I'd get a big
pair of NoRH speakers in synthetic marble and place them on
a nice pedistal or stand. Instant artwork and good sound.
Remember - a large round object takes up less "space"
visually than a smaller square one as humans have a problem
psychologically with square-ish objects. They feel larger
than they really are.
Yeah..... this is the help he is looking for. I get the jokes but will
the original poster?
http://www.norh.com/products/sm/index.html
This sort of thing could SO work for his room. For $1000,
the 6.9 SM are beautiful, low footprint for their size, and
go down to 40hz, making a seperate sub a minor concern.
I really like the celedon green myself
http://www.norh.com/products/sm/sm6_9green2.jpg
Blue with a stand also looks great.
http://www.norh.com/products/sm/blue6_9_3.jpg
Of course, if they are too large, he can always back off
a "notch": http://www.norh.com/products/norh5/index.html
This is quite small and can be had in synthetic marble.
Real marble is a bit fragile and expensive. The synthetic
stuff is like Corian. Nothing short of dropping it hard
or taking a hammer to it will hurt it.
Lower footprint, good sound, and high WAF.
As a plus, the MMGs are amazingly good speakers when mated
to a small, fast sub(which you can stow in the corner quite
easily). Stunning clarity and dispersion for background music,
considering their $550 price.
Almost any amplifier will run a pair of these if you don't
run anything else(typical 5.1 amp just running 2 channels)
Just don't put them against the walls!
He also could get a pair of MMG-W. They have piano hinges
on one side so that you can swing them out from the wall into
proper playing position. They require a sub, though.
Scott Wheeler