dick "internet bicycle repairman" Malesweski wrote

Two weeks after the "Great Debate", it is clearly John Atkinson's
credibility that has taken the hit. As you say, "he played, he lost".


Yes - the credibility hit he has taken with you four idiots
is keeping him up at night. The rest of us can see that John
behaves like a gentleman and Arny behaves like a cowardly
nerd. Some have issues with John's position on methods
and conclusions, but retain respect for the man. Only you
four idiots actually have any respect or pretend to have
respect for Arny. Oh - and I guess Brian McCarty is in
your circle jerk as well.