Langis wrote:

trotsky wrote:


I think it would better if you used the Jupiter graphic logo (from
your site) on the front. You presumably put a serial plate on the back
- the full name, db ratings etc, could go there.

That's a valid point--except that I already had the logos done before
the website was made. I could've demanded that the logo from the
speaker be used on the site, but since I've never done this kind of
thing before I didn't want to sound ****y. (I know--when did that
ever
stop me before.) At some point in time when I get some cash flow
going
I'll probably have the site redesigned more in keeping with what I
think
is best.

Dave is right - I meant it would look better if you used the logo from
your site (which does look like a professional job) on the speakers. I
don't think it's a trivial point either, this is about perception of
your product - a critical matter.


Well, I disagree on all counts. First of all, I already knew what you
were trying to say, so the only thing dave was right about was restating
the obvious.


I think "I could've demanded that the logo from the speaker be used on
the site" had us both confused. It's the direct opposite of what I
said.



As I told dave, I think there's only one way to interpret "I already had
the logos done before the website..."





Second, I had already spent over three hundred bucks on
nameplates, and was hardly going to get new ones made at this juncture.
It's not unusual for a company to redesign their logos as time passes,
of course. But the most important point is that I don't even agree with
you about the look of the logo: my logo that's currently on the speakers
is in keeping with the straight lines and no-nonsense look of the
speaker. And it looks quite good in the flesh, despite dave's cheap
shot to the contrary.


OK, you disagree. I maintain that the logo from your website could
look far more professional on the speakers than the nameplates, to the
degree that it could influence potential customers perception of the
product.



I think you're putting too much stock in the look. It's all about the
buzz that's created on the internet--I just have to get some customers
testimonials and/or reviews. So far everybody I've talked to about
reviews has had a "don't call us, we'll call you" attitude, but reviews
are actually the less desirable of the two.


One thing you could do without further expense is relocate the plates.
They look a bit weird being so close to the bottom IMO. Perhaps you
could stick 'em round the back? ;-)


I'll take that under consideration.


I also think the photographs on your site don't do the business
justice. They are very professionally done, no question about that -
but the trumpet and vase of flowers are *really* corny. It's a
perception issue again, but these photos do not spell out (to me)
'innovation'. If I was in your shoes I would consider using more
unusual angles, a blurred or obscured background (rather than obvious
backdrop), or better yet beg the use of a cutting edge designer home
for a real world setting, as you might see in the glossies.


I don't doubt there is room for improvement, but whose going to do the
improving? I don't have the time or money to shop around for multiple
photographers and multiple web designers--


Weird answer. If the photographer *insists* on photographing the
speakers like a bowl of fruit, it's a false economy not to find
another. You ask for what you want and they do it.. right?


Perhaps you can provide a link to a photo or photos that you think are
better.


I'm actually quite please what
has transpired considering this is the first time I've ever done
anything like this. Also, I'd like to know what you're basis for
comparison is: most sites from guys flying solo like myself (Ellis, for
example) look like a trained ape made them compared to mine.


I believe I already praised you for your first efforts.

My basis for comparison would be any impressive or professional
looking site.



Which is certainly valid, but as far as audio is concerned, I'm already
well ahead of the curve. Granted there's always room for improvement.
All it takes is cash.


As for the serial plate on the back, I do have a very nice gold
embossed
sticker that is exactly as you describe it. In hindsight that
should've
showed up on the site--it's just another point that adds
credibility to
the operation.


Agree with that.



Dealing with website developers and "professional"
photographers has been a little more squirrelly than I was expecting.


Curious. How were they difficult?


That's not really a suitable subject for the newsgroup. I can tell you
about it privately if you'd like.


Yes, do.


I'm already sick of people nitpicking
and whining about efforts that I've made that are far beyond anything
they will have the guts to do in their entire lives.


"people" in this case obviously refers to me,



No, I didn't mean that--I meant the usual suspects: Krueger, Morion,
ScottW, McKelvy, Oberlander, and, unfortunately, dave weil at this juncture.


yet your snide remark is
unfounded - I have had the guts to market a commercial product before,
and I learned a lot in doing so. I'm sorry for you if you think I'm
nitpicking - I've been impressed with what you have done so far and my
comments are constructive.



The only beef I have with you, PD, is that you didn't apply the same
scrutiny to weil's attempt at a review as you did with my efforts. In
fact, I think you totally gave him a free pass, which is unfair. Beyond
that, I really do welcome feedback that I deem to be credible, which
yours certainly is.