"dave weil" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:03:04 -0400, "Bob Morein"
wrote:

"dave weil" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:00:55 -0400, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:

Sorry, Trotsky. No can do.
It's necessary to draw attention to what in my opinion is one of
thegreat
audio frauds and misrepresentations of our time -- Jupiter Audio.
You, Greg Singh, are a fraud, plain and simple.

Actually, it's not true. He is indeed selling speakers that make
sound. They are better than 95% of all speakers made.

They are? Are you serious? What is the universe of discourse here? Are
you
including transistor radio speakers driven by 100mw? Dashboard
enunciators?
The ubiquitous Panasonic answering machine?

You forgot the beepers that go off when a computer boots...

;-)

Why, yes I am.

What part of "all speakers made" do you not understand?

It's not a matter of misunderstanding, it's a matter of searching for
relevance.

Of course, far be it from Weil to not descend into a little deception by the
well-known means of making an irrelevant comparison.

If Best Buy shelf systems are included, we still have to be careful.

No we don't. Well, at least *I* don't.

We have an admission from Weil that he does not need to make careful
comparisons.

We don't know whether Greg's speakers have a horrendous response anomaly
which
deprives them of the benefit that should accrue from better drivers.

"We" might not, but "I* do.

There's no proof that David Weil isn't stone deaf, or close to it. There's
no evidence that he can hear any of a number of horrendous response
anomalies. There is evidence that David Weil is a proud collector of
defective and/or obsolete to the point of grotesque loudspeakers.

They are sitting in my living room as we
speak. If you'llgo back and reread what I said, you'llrealize that I'm
saying that there is no "horrendous response anomaly" present in his
speakers.

Prove it. BTW please note that Weil was so upset when he typed this that he
couldn't find the space bar much of the time.

A bad cook can spoil any food.

We know for a fact that Greg has zero appreciation of, and zero expertise in
the application of *all known* loudspeaker development technologies. We know
that he does not know the difference between an ohm and a volt. We know that
he was unable to hold a regular engineering or even a petty sales job. We
know for a fact that Greg has terribly strange ideas about what constitutes
good bass. We know that Greg has made untrue but wildly optimistic claims
about his hearing acuity. We know that Greg pays about 4 times as much for
speaker drivers of a given quality level than your typical speaker
manufacturer, and then marks them up outlandishly.

How much bad news is required before any reasonable person simply makes a
more logical choice and looks elsewhere?

Well, you can fly blind all you want to. I've got his speakers in
house.

So what?

We know that Weil regularly operated equipment well-known to damage ears for
years during his military career. We don't know about any congenital hearing
defects he might have. We do know that there are some acute problems with
mental stability in his family tree. We do know that he brags about owning
loudspeakers that are known to be defective and/or wildly substandard by
modern standards.

How much bad news is required before any reasonable person simply makes a
more logical choice and looks elsewhere?