I'll always give you my opinion,not recipe.
xformer thread was full of ****,with facts which you can find on first 20
pages of every book about xformers and magnetismus.
but this is no'ones job to talk ppl what to talk and not to talk.
but,also -was full with dick prick attitude and THAT was what bugger me.
I did not mention your name ,Ian and why you jump first on me -whining how
I attacked You?
when I wrote about music issues in some previous thread, I meant with
"doing" on just one thing-it doesn't matter what you do,only important thing
is that you do exactly what you really are,no more no less.
I do here what I really am -whinge about dick prick attitude.
ya can call me names,and I have absolutely nothing against that;
but when someone call me names just because he have impression that I
attacked his self-perception talking about xformers,than I have something
against that sort of attitude.
no matter what we discuss here,laws of Physic were created before our
kind,so we must appreciate that fact-humbleness is just one aspect of that
appreciation.
but unfortunately,sometimes happens that every of us takes himself too
seriously.

--
Choky
Prodanovic Aleksandar
YU




"Ian Iveson" wrote in message
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Sod off.

You do nothing but bloody whinge these days. How can that be zen,
you daft bugger?

Flux is the crux.

When I write about music, you whinge about that too.

In fact you whinge about all my writing.

You whinge about every thread I enjoy the most.

I guess I must be on the wrong track, and it seems you're picking on
me but I'm sure you're not really.

You're worth more than jibes, Choky, so let me be a little bit
serious. Last time we talked of music, you said the important thing
was *doing*. I had accommodated your view in my concept of
"performance", or so I hoped. That is because it was your view, or
at least that more clearly expressed by Al, that inspired me in the
first place, and rescued me from the teeth of simple
reproductionism. You defined one side of the argument that I was
trying to resolve in that thread. You seem still blind to the idea
that our similar concerns manifest themselves in opposite ways, but
are equally legitimate and can amount to the same thing. That
blindness, together with your tendency towards censorship, can be
quite demoralising at times.

Arrival at the understanding necessary to resolve the issue requires
debate and sometimes hard argument, and it won't always be clean
because people actually care...they feel (although exactly what they
feel is where I get lost). Several people including me have learned
from that thread and the knowledge will stick because of the
*engagement*.

Doing, engagement, performance...it's all the same Choky. We
socialise our knowledge. We build the big picture together. Lot's
of kinds of doing. Doing in every sphere.

And doing in politics, Choky. They were your dicks, and will
continue to be if you don't do something. The bombs were mine.
Sorry.

Zen's a pile of **** :-). Don't switch off.

cheers, Ian

"Choky" wrote in message
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boyz and girlz
if that silly thread will grow further,I'll be pushed to press
power off
button on my server case;
then our precious RAT ng will be terminated for 7 days.
meantime I'll change my VT4C in preamp very slowly etc.
any comment?
( behavior of some of us reminds me on period of my country's
history when 7
dicks can't manage to keep one nice country in one piece.
so-some of us became empty-headed politicians,lost in own
Greatness)
cheers to all Rodents

ps. we need more Tube Gardens-less ****,more joy in music
--
Choky
Prodanovic Aleksandar
YU