On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:58:05 GMT, "Carl Valle"
wrote:


"dave weil" wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:12:09 GMT, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:

Making copies of personally owned material onto other media for
personal use isn't a violation of copyright laws unless the source
material is encrypted.

At least not yet, it would be if the record companies had their way.

This would mean that it's technically illegal
to make any copies of virtually all DVDs and legal to make copies of
virtually all CDs, LPs, or tapes.

So, media shifting is certainly legal and time-honored, as long as it
doesn't involve cracking some anti-copying device.

Then I shouldn't have to pay extra for fees that go to record companies
when
I buy blank media.

Well, AFAIK, you aren't legally required to buy that media (it's
different in Canada I think). I don't think that ordinary "data" media
has that charge.

However, I don't think you should begrudge the songwriters that extra
quarter, or whatever it is. It's already dirt cheap for you to use
blank CD media. This is just a way to get some royalties to the
songwriter. I'm not sure if any of that fee goes to the record company
unless they own the copyright to the songs, but I could be wrong about
that. When you can get 50 blanks for $20 (and usually far cheaper on
special), I don't see the burden on the consumer.

The deal is that if you copy msic onto a data CD then you are cracking a
anti copy device.
It's called SCMS and it is incorporated into all consumer digital decks to
protect the equipment manufacturer from lawsuits, not the individual...
The often cited Sony/Disney case was won by Sony, not the individual. Sony
argued that the VCR had legitimate uses and thus was not intended to be a
machine to steal programming. That is how they won.
Carl

First of all, if you burn a CD using your home PC, you are NOT
cracking any code. A computer is NOT considered a "recording device".
Yet. But beyond that, note the word *Serial* in the name of the code.
This theoretically prohibits *serial* copying, but doesn't prohibit
making a copy for your own private and personal use (in most cases).
Plus, it doesn't prevent you from making an *analog* copy such as a
cassette tape for your car. It's designed to prevent reproduction of
multiple "bit accurate" copies for distribution.

Second of all, the Sony decision DID alow individuals to time shift.
That much is clear. Otherwise, we wouldn't have 30 years of VCRs.

Third of all, the normal license doesn't preclude making a copy for
your personal use.