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MINe 109 wrote:
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Fair enough. But I think it is significant that most of the
participants here who are engineers seem to think that the design
differences between CD players tend not to have audible
consequences. I
would trust their judgment over yours or mine.

I'd hate to be stuck with unsatisfactory gear because some engineer
somewhere doesn't think audible consequences possible.

I wouldn't take the word of one engineer either--unless the alternative
was to take the word of a non-engineer! But every effect has a cause,
and if you can't find any expert anywhere who can explain the cause,
it's time to consider the possibility that you're misreading the
effect.

"Trust me: I'm an EE," that kind of thing? Sounds like arguing from
authority, especially if I'm told I'm not qualified to have an opinion.

I find it more
reassuring when an engineer with a respectable audio track record
points
out things that can go wrong, like the pro-audio guy who found that
cheap dvd players had clipped outputs due to poorly implemented DACs.

Missed that. Can you provide a reference?

It was Ken Kantor on rec.audio.pro, about two years ago.

One selling point of the Arcam is the RingDAC, which was sourced from

dCS, who may be presumed to know something about design.

There are presumably many ways to design DACs. What's debatable is
whether one way is enough better than another way to have audible
consequences.

I doubt I could tell an Elgar from my CD23.

Stephen