Michael McKelvy wrote:

"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
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Michael McKelvy wrote:

"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
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Michael McKelvy wrote:

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
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What's really laughable about Krueger's baseless claims of
prejudice
by the moderators is the well-known fact tha RAHE is by and
large
one
of the few discussion groups on Usenet where proponents of
Krueger's
dogma are often found - e.g. Pinkerton, Chung, Sullivan,
etc.

None of them happen to be the guy who built the first ABX
comparator or
did the first ABX test. None of them are the proprietor of
the
PCABX web
site. I've got a far stronger background in DBTs than just
about
anybody
who posts on Usenet these days. In essence, the guys who
remain
are
my
disciples.

Krueger would have a very hard time explaining why they are
allowed
to post on RAHE freely while he has been banned.

It's easy, I'm by far the stronger advocate of DBTs. Check
our
respective
track records. Many of my posts have driven some of the
golden
ears
over
there like Harry Lavo absolutely nuts, based on their posts
that
somehow
made it through moderation.

Obviously, it has
nothing to do with his beliefs, and everything to do with
his
antisocial behavior direted towards the moderators on RAHE.

Richman arrogantly and stupidly contradicts recent statements
by
a
RAHE
moderator that it was my criticism of the moderators as
posted
on
RAO that
got me banned:

David E. Bath" wrote in message


"He was banned for his comments on RAO about the moderators,
nothing
more."

Since Richman responded to a post that quoted this
information,
he
can't
plead ignorance. His false claim about the facts of this
matter
can't be
blamed on ignorance. This is absolute proof that Richman is a
liar.


A public thank you from me to Dr. Bath as he was responding to
an
inquiry
from me on this subject. Having read some comments that did
not
make
sense
about moderators discussing the nature of posts that were
declined
by
you, I
did the unthinkable, I asked.

As we now know, such discussions do not happen and those who
claim
to
have
had them are being less than truthful.


IOW, he's lied about their moderating practices and got
caught.

In fact my comments were factual, and documented. But,.we've
caught

Richman lying about moderator statements right here and now.
If
irony
killed, Richman would be more than just brain dead.





There is no evidence presented by anybody, including Dr. Bath or
any
other moderator, that discusssions have not taken place between
posters
and Dr. Bath about posts that have been rejected. I have
personally
had discussions via email with Dr. Bath about posts of mine that
have
been rejected. On at least one occasion in which I objected to
a
post
of mine - made in response to a personal attack by Krueger on
RAHE
-
being reejected and sent back by me for revision, I was told by
Dr.
Bath that he had rejected posts that were much worse than mine
from
Krueger.

On this point I concede.



Thank you. I have no reason to make something like this up, and my
account of my correspondence with Dr. Bath above is accurate.



I suppose he said that by way of consolation to me.

Therefore, the claim made above by McKelvy represents his
opinion
only,
and is not based on any actual evidence.

It was mistaken interpretation, my mistake.


Agreed.


Since Krueger has a highly documented history on RAO of lying
about
the
actions of many other people, as does McKelvy, statements such
as
those
above by these 2 proven liars are self-serving, misleading and
not
worth the serious consideration of any person who bases their
conclusions on facts rather than fiction.

Not true. I know I correct the record when I know I'm wrong and
I've
seen
Arny do the same.

I have yet to see that happen, but do not claim to have seen every
post
written by either one of them. Both of you have made statements
about
me that can easily be proven to be wrong, and in many cases, that
has
already been done. Admissions of error in these cases by Krueger
in
respect to myself have never been made AFAIK.

We've both said things about that are true and you deny them.
Anything you think that has been proven is AFAIK not been any more
than
hearsay.


That is not true.


I will acknowledge that your concession and apology above means
that
when you claimed that "certain people were being less than
truthful"
about private conversations with Dr. Bath about moderation policies
on
RAHE, you now realize you were wrong. (Assuming you were referring
me
in that comment).

It seemed at the time I thought you were making claims to
conversations that
the moderators do not engage in per Dr. Bath.