Paul Dormer wrote:


"Bruce J. Richman" emitted :

Very true. I mentioned that I've seen extensive oral surgery performed
under hypnosis with no pain reactions by the patient. Also, it's well
known that women have given birth under hypnosis with no anaesthesia
and no evidence of pain being experienced.

Also, there are various proponents of self-induced pain, including
folk who suspend themselves from meathooks for laughs. I'm not
suggesting Mikey should be hung from a meathook but......... ;-)


Do you remember the famous scene from "On the Waterfront"? :-). Perhaps if
the decide do a modernized version, they'll consider him.

Speaking of self-induced pain, there are also people who walk on coals, lie on
beds of nails, etc. The mind-body connectin can be very strong.

Hypnosis is not designed to deal with the *cause* of the pain, but
rather some of the major contributing factors such as muscular
contractions that often arise from underlying conditions and cause
pain. And of course, there is also a cerfain amount of expectancy
involved with chronic pain patients. Hypnosis can work on this mental
component and train a person to expect a a different outcome from the
underlying biological condition.

Biofeedback training in which a person is trained to relax muscle
groups, for example, has also been used quite frequently in the
treatment of back pain, tension headaches, and many other conditions.

My last experience of biological feedback involved a stethoscope which
I purchased from a vet. Freaked myself out!! :-)


LOL ! That'snot quite what I had in mind. :-). When I was in high school and
part of adolescent teenage smartasses that sometimes did sick jokes, we had a
physics teacher who was hard of hearing, and wore a hearing aid with a rather
large hearing device in his shirt pocket. (Hearing aids didn't used to be
miniaturized and one piece). This teacher was also quite a dork - he had no
sense of humor and often bored us with his complaints about everything.
Anyhow, by prior arrangement, we decided to teach him a liesson. One day, he
came into class and asked various students questions, we all moved our lips but
didn't say anything. After a while, he figured his heaing aid wasn't working
correctly, so he turned the volume way up. You can guess what happened the
next time he asked a question !

Your story reminded me of that.

Personally, if I'm going to listen to heart beats, I only want it to be on an
audiophile version of Dark Side of the Moon. :-)









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