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Who is the provider of regular phone service in the Miami
area?

Bellsouth?


It's just that there's this person's phone number you would
expect
to
find in their books, but it doesn't show up.


you are really obsessed with this!
Not nearly as much as he is with me.

Another lie from McKelvy, obviously.

No, just my impression, given the amount of bandwidth you are using.

I'm not the person that has been spreading lies about another
person's
identity, professional activities, credentals, etc. for almost 7
years.
I'm also not the person that has passed on false email information
received from a questionable source.

Neither am I. I'm just a guy who can't reconcile your on line
behavior with
your stated profession, and have therefore expressed my onion on the
matter.


That's a lie. You've repeatedly made false statements about my
identity, my professional activities

They are still opinions.

(about which you actually know
nothing oher than what I've mentioned on RAO).

Which is the same as knowing nothing for sure.

There is a difference
between expressing an "opinion" (the word you use to describe your
lies), and making statements that have been contradicted over and over
again by concrete evidence that you've seen but chosen to ignort or
disbelieve.

It's not so much that I disbeleive them, it's that there is no way to
know if they are true, they are hearsay.

Also, are you denying that you passsed on fale email
information (which you never bother to even try and verify) from a
questionable source (one who had never met me and was known to use a
variety of sockpuppet personae on RAO).

I'm not denying that I passed along info from an E-mail. I assure you
it was not "fale."


For the zillionth time, one of the fallacies in your thinking is that
when a professional person goes on a recreational newsgroup, they
should treat it as an extension of their office, or somehow, behave
differently than other people do that post there.

That does not excuse the behavior you exhibit here. It would make no
difference in how I regard you as an RAO participant.

People post on
recreational newsgroups to have a little fun, have a few laughs, and
unfortunately, in the case of RAO, often insult other people.

And you seem to relish the insult part.

To
expect one person to refrain while others take pot shots is
unrealistic
and unfair.

Why? What harm can it do to ignore them? You sound like a child when
you say things like that. You think you put out fire with gasoline?

You are the person who has been spread lies and innuendo about my use
of
legally prescribed pain medications and making false claims about my
mental
state.

I've made it clear that any statements I make about *anybody's* mental
state on RAO refers only to their online behavior and nothing else.

But if you are a psychologist as you claim, and for now let's assume
that is true, it is reckless an unprofessional to use legitmate
diagnostic terms about people you don't know.

You
have lied at claimed that I've "diagnosed" people on RAO, which is
clearly not the case. You've also implied that I've been guilty of
ethical lapses, when in fact none have ever existed.

I only know that if I had your credentials, I would not be calling
people delusional and insane at the drop of a hat.

As for your use of legally prescribed pain medications, I have no way
of knowing whether or not you use them responsibly, so I'm free to
voice an opinion.

You have freedomn of speech, but to make state such opinions about
something you have no knowledge of is exactly the same as what you
accuse me of doing.



Let's recall that Rush Limbaugh also used a lot of
"legally prescribed pain medications" but apparently, he was using
many
prescriptions at the same time.

An now you seem to imply that I am using more than one prescription,
which is also not true.

It's pretty simple. They dull the pain, if I could live without them, I
would gladly do so. I've spent a fair amount of time and a large
amount of money trying to use non-narcotic methods to get rid of the
pain. I'm going to be in touch with yet another doctor to see if
surgery is a viable option. As I'm sure you are aware, surgery on one's
spine is not something you do if it not required, there are some very
serious risks, far more than from oxicontin.

BTW, Rush may have been taking far more than he should have, but he was
obviously in charge of his life in all other ways. Oxicontin is a far
safer drug than the much more abused Vicoden which contains Tylenol.


Mikey, I truly do have empathy for your suffering that medical
situation.
BTW, you are wrong for your
inference that the Vicodin is dangerous because of Tylenol.
Its the hydrocordone.

No, to much Tylenol can shut down your liver when taken over too long a
time. If you take hydrocodone responsibly, there are no harmful effects
to your health.

Hydrocodone is in Schedule II of the Controlled Substances Act.

And it will kill you if you take enough. If however you take it as
prescribed, the worst that can happen to you is increased tolerance and
constipation.
Yes, it is possible to become addicted but it is not a risk to your health
unless you overdose.

The dosage I take is the smallest one available 10 mg. It comes in
strengths as high as 160 mg. for controlled release. There are others that
are IR or instant release, I can't even imagine what kind of pain you'd have
to be in for that.

Generally speaking it is a very safe drug, especially compared to something
like Barbiturates, which if you become addicted, can kill you just trying to
withdraw from them.

I have a PDR on my desktop, so if you need any more info on anything, I'll
be happy to share.