Arny Krueger wrote:


"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:


Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message

Arny Krueger offers another conspiracy theory:


"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message


And of course, he neglects to mention the many posts that he has
submitted to RAHE which have attacked the statements of others
because of their preference for tubes, vinyl, or simply claiming
that they prefer the sound of one product to another. The RAHE
moderators will allow this to be posted as long as the statements
but not the person making them are the only things being attacked.
IOW, no personal attacks, as determined by the RAHE moderators.

Given that one of the RAHE moderators styles himself as proxy
defender of golden ears, it's getting harder and harder to get
posting of ideas he disagrees with even when they don't attack
people. On RAHE posts attacking me personally go through, but
attacks on certain cherished beliefs of one of the moderators get
cancelled.

Prove it!

You can find it all at this URL: www.google.com .

One can also find there concrete evidence of the personal attacks
that Krueger has made against me and many others on RAHE.




Krueger has offered no evidence to support his false claim that one
of the RAHE moderators supports subjective viewpoints and/or posters
only.

Since I didn't say that, this would be an irrelevant comment.


A false and deliberately misleading evaluation of what I have said.
Krueger said the following:

"one of the RAHE moderators styles himself as proxy
defender of golden ears, it's getting harder and harder to get
posting of ideas he disagrees with"

Obviously, Krueger has lied here.

No, the problem here is that you can't read Richman.

I didn't say "only".

He has provided no evidence that
any RAHE moderator is a defender of "golden ears" - Krueger's
frequent derisive term for those that favor subjective evaluation and
individual preferences.

Prove that "golden ears" is a term used as derisive term for those that
favor subjective evaluation and
individual preferences.


The Google record proves it. All any reader has to do is look up your use of
the term in conjunction with your personal attacks against those expressive
various subjective opinions.


While Krueger complains about posts attacking him personally being
allowed by RAHE moderators (or perhaps one of them), he predictably
fails to admit that personal attacks he has leveled against other
RAHE posters, including myself, have also been allowed on occasion
by the RAHE moderators.

Prove it with a specific example.

The evidence is readily accessible at www.google.com, and is a matter
of public record. You have failed to provide any proof that one of
the moderators shows favoritism towards posters with subjective
opinions and or individual preferences.

That's not you claimed I have failed to do, Richman. Learn to read your own
posts, will you?


Learn to write comprehensive English sentences, not Krooglish in which
butchering of the English language takes place. Please define the Krooglish
contained in the foillowing words which you just spewed:

"That's not you claimed"

Have you been taking elocution lessons from duh-Mikey? Or perhaps, your fear
and rage has simply overcome you? Take your time, Krueger. You have plenty of
it to waste, I'm quite sure.


If anything, the current
content at RAHE could lead readers to suppose the opposite is taking
place - namely, a tendency to let in more anti-subjective-opinion,
anti-preference posts from double blind test zealots.

Since DBT testing relates only to subjective testing, it's clear that you
don't know what you are talking about Richman.


It's clear that you are full of it, Krueger. My reference above was to double
blind testing zealots such as yourself, not not double blind testing, per se.
The RAHE posting record clearly indicates that for Krueger and a few others,
the ongoing arguments about double blind testing are simply a means to try and
monopolize that NG with derogatory and at times defamatory information about
those who happen to favor the rights of individuals to express their individual
preferences and subjective opinions about various audio products. The record
also clearly shows that most of the content on RAHE at the present time
consists of posts from these zealots.


However, most
rational individuals who don't share your paranoid conspiracy
theories, don't go around accusing RAHE moderators of favoritism.
Only you do that. LOL!

Prove that other people's posts are being rejected as often and
out-of-conformance with RAHE posting standards.


Prove that your rejected posts meet RAHE posting standards and have been
unfairly rejected.


RAHE moderators, like the moderators of any Usenet NG, have a tough,
thankless job. Unfortunately, prejudiced zealots like Krueger, who
oppose any and all moderation, will always be the first to try and
smear them with false, unsubstantiated claims of unfair treatment.

Wrong Richman. I'm in favor of moderation that's fair. If there's a
problem with my post, let it be returned with a comment so I can
correct it. But I get back so many posts with no specific comments,
there's really not a lot that I can do.

That is a lie, Krueger.

Prove it with specific examples.


See www.Google.com for many examples of Krueger's anti-moderation personal
attacks against me and others who have discussed this subject on RAO.


The Google record clearly shows that when
discussions about moderation have appeared on RAO, you have been the
fist to libel, smear, defame and lie about both those posts and the
people posting them.

Prove it with specific examples.


See www.Google.com for many examples of Krueger's anti-moderation personal
attacks against me and others who have discussed this subject on RAO


One of your favorite conspiracy theories most
recently when this subject has been brought up is that a group of
moderators perhaps sharing some of my views would deliberately censor
your posts.

Show where I've talked about a group of moderators (i.e., more than one
person).


See www.Google.com for many examples of Krueger's anti-moderation personal
attacks against me and others who have discussed this subject on RAO



Of course, nothing could be further from the truth,
paranoia-breath. I have neither the time nor inclination to be a
moderator for a version of RAO, moderated (i.e. RAM). My only
purpose in proposing it is to prevent proven compulsive liars and
libelers like yourself from engaging in personal attacks on the many
others with whom you disagree. Your real problems with RAHE have
nothing to do with favoritism - they have to do with your documented
opposition to moderation.

Wrong again, Richman. I have been against turning RAO into a group that was
moderated by a self-appointed group of thugs such as yourself.

You've just proven my point above, idiot. Now people won't even have to go to
the Google record. You really are a complete fool and ignoramus.

LOL!



Apparently
Usenet's management agreed with me, since it didn't happen. They did set up
another unmoderated Usenet group to address the problem they saw, notably a
newsgroup I've participated in a whole lot more than you have.



Prove that Usenet's management agreed with you. You can't, compulsive liar
Krueger.

In point of fact, newsgroups are set up by people who go through a formal
series of discussions, proposals, and votes - not by some mythological "Usenet
management" that is a figment of your delusional imagination. Only after all
the above types of actions have been taken, does Usenet get involved in the
creation or disapproval of new newsgroups.

For those interested in the truth about how Usenet newsgroups are created, here
is the URL for an informative description:

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/crea...sgroups/part1/



As for your false claims about posts being returned to you without
specific comments - this is too is both revealing and deceptive at
the same time.

You have said above:

"But I
get back so many posts with no specific comments, there's really not
a lot that I can do."

If you were not constantly trying to sneak personal attacks upon
others through on RAHE, you wouldn't get so many posts returned to
you.

Prove that my posts attempt to sneak personal attacks through RAHE's
moderating system, Richman.


Prove that you haven't complained, as I quoted you above, Krueger, about having
many posts returned to you by the RAHE moderators. Prove that you haven't
deliberately and repeatedly tried to post on RAHE with personal attacks known
to violate the RAHE posting criteria.



In several cases I've forwarded the rejected posts to the person I was
responding to and they saw no problems with the post.


Prove that you have done this, Krueger. Give the names of the people to whom
you have allegedly forwarded your rejected posts. Prove that they saw no
problems with your posts.

There is no reason for anybody to believe you, given your already admitted
record of having many posts returned to you by the RAHE moderators. Prove that
they were wrong in correctly rejecting your posts because of the personal
attacks you tried to get published on that newsgroup.





Obviously, the moderators don't have time to suggest the proper
corrections that you need to make.

I believe that good form requires that they do so.


Most of the posters who are familiar with RAHE posting guidelines, which you
claim to be, know better than that, it would appear. When an RAHE moderator
returns a post to you with a rather general instruction to avoid making
personal attacks or a claim that your present post contains material of a
personal attack nature, that is sufficient. Are you also going to lie again
and claim that the RAHE monitors have not instructed you to resubmit your post
after deleting the objectionable personal attack material?

No matter how you try and dissemble, lie, and play word games, Krueger, you've
indicted yourself. You've already admitted that you've had many RAHE posts
rejected and returned to you. Now, liar Krueger, prove that the posts that
were returned (1) did not give a reason for their rejection and (2) did not
advise you to resubmit them after making some revisions.


Equally obvious is your long documented history of practically never
admitting that you have lied and/or libeled another person or
deliberately misrepresented what they have said through selective
deletions when quoting them.

False and irrelevant.


Prove it. The Google record clearly shows that you have practically never
admitted lying about other people and have never admitted to deliberately
libeling them. That is just one of the many records that you are about to be
sued for libel by Mr. Wheeler and why many of us are probably lining up to
provide him with documentary supportive evidence and other types of assistance.


The Google record also contains many examples of your deliberate efforts to
misrepresent what others have said by quoting them out of context while
deleting relevant portions of what they have said in the same posts.



The moderators, since they have, by
your own admission, returned "so many posts" to you, that they
logically and correctly know that you may know how to correct them,
but because of your agenda and hate-driven paranoia, usually won't do
so.

Since you're talking about "moderators", and my comments have clearly
related to a certain moderator, its clear that you don't know what you are
talking about, Richman.


Another lie, Krueger. Prove that only one moderator has returned your posts
because of their objectionable personal attack information with which you have
attempted to smear and defame others posting on RAHE. Prove that you aren't
desperately and poorly trying to play semantic games to avoid the inescapable
fact that you have had many posts that you have submitted to RAHE rejected
because of personal attacks upon others.


While I don't expect either Dr. Bath or Dr. Dreyer to comment about
these matters on RAO, I would not be surprised to find out that you
have had more posts returned to you by the RAHE moderators because of
personal attacks against others than any other poster.

Prove it.


Prove that my hypothesis is not true.


And before
you try and use the lame excuse that you post more there than many
others, let's consider this hypothesis - It is highly probable that
Krueger has had a greater PERCENTAGE of his total posts returned to
him by the RAHE moderators because of personal attacks upon others
than any other poster on RAHE.

Prove it.


Disprove it.



Krueger has once again demonstrated, in this post, his
ever-increasing paranoid delusional system.

Given that Richman claimed facts not in evidence, we can safely
consider this another one of his delusional comments.

This of course is just another false claim by the compulsive liar and
libeler, Krueger. His use of the pronoun, "we" has not been shown to
include more than 3 people of the total that post on RAO - (1)
compulsive liar Krueger, (2) an anonymous coward calling himself
"torresists" who hopes to engratiate himself with c-l-K by mimicing
his libelous false claims, and (3) a braindead bigot named McKelvy,
whose role models are c-l-K and the late Senator Joe McCarthy.

Since you've presumed considerably more facts not in evidence Richman, its
safe to say that the depth of your delusions is increasing as we discuss
this matter.


Given your well documented tendency to engage in paranoid conspiracy theories
about audiophile manufacturers, audiophile magazine publishers, RAHE
moderators, and many other groups of people, your ability to evaluate the
mental status of others has no credibility whatsoever. Many of the people who
post here regularly have come to similar conclusions about your lack of contact
with reality.


The Goggle record clearly substantiates what I have said about
Krueger: (1) his documented opposition, defamation and lies about
posters and posts dealing with a moderated version of RAO, and (2)
his personal attacks against both myself and other posters on RAHE
which have been allowed by the RAHE moderaors.

Prove it with a specific retrieval, Richman.


The Google record has proved it, Krueger.

Your attempts to steer people away from RAO, and misrepresent RAHE as a
moderated equivalent of RAO are a matter of public record.



So now, not only is the
"Evil High End Establishment" and Stereophile conspiring against
him, but also the RAHE moderators as well.

The (s) would be another fabrication of Richman's delusional mind.

Another lie from the compulsive liar, Krueger. The Google record has
recently shown that Krueger has accused John Atkinson of Stereophile
of possibly paying people that post on RAO to post personal attacks
against him.

And of course he'd come right out and admit it if it were true.


Prove that your delusional, paranoid accusations against Mr. Atkinson have any
basis in fact.



The Google record also clearly shows that Krueger has
frequently attacked equipment manufacturers (especially those
manufacturing analog equipment and tubed electronics), audiophile
equipment dealers, and of course, individuals that might buy
audiophile products.

So what?


Further evidence that your own set of anti-idividual-preference,
anti-subjective-opinion prejudices impels you to engage in personal attacks
against people who endorse or particpate in these categories.


What will be his next conspiracy theory?

remainder of Krueger's personal attacks deleted since they represent
nothing more than his usual attempt to spread disinformation and lies
about others

Bruce J. Richman, Ph.D.
Licensed Psychologist

Proof that Richman is so insecure that he can't post without waving his
alleged credentials in everybody's face.



Another lie from Krueger. As already explained, my signing my name this way,
at this time, is simply motivated by the fact that Mr. Scott Wheeler is
currently pursuing a libel suit against Krueger. Since Krueger has frequently
libeled me as well, I intend to supply as much supportive documentary evidence
as possible to assist Mr. Wheeler in his jusitifable legal actions against
Krueger.
I fully antici[pate that several others will also join this very worthwhile
effort.

The Google record will also clearly prove that I have normally signed by name
without any degree or title after it during a 6-year-plus history of posting on
RAO.


Bruce J. Richman, Ph.D.
Licensed Psychologist