On 23 Dec 2004 23:22:22 -0800, "godcity" wrote:

c) the speakers have some small tears at the radiused section at the
end of the voice coil where it connects to the gasket. the tapered
part of the coil is intact. snip

No wonder these sound bad...they're fried!

d) this is the only pair of 809's i've ever heard. they sound sort of
ns10ish to me. very forward, but slightly cloudy top and fairly rolled
off bottom. somewhat fatiguing to listen to. snip

Doesn't sound right.

dB