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Arny Krueger
 
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Default Help needed in selecting amp and speakers

"Varghese Devassy" wrote in message
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Hi,

I would like to get some assistance regarding selection of amp and
speakers for stereo. I have listened to two combinations of amp and
speakers. They a

1. Rotel RA1060 with B&W DM603
2. NAD C350 with KEF


Smart move number one about building a system is not to spend too much money
on electronics, and instead save your bread for buying speakers and
improving room acoustics, not to mention some nice new recordings to listen
to.

I would have preferred to listen to other combinations as well (Rotel
with KEF, NAD with B&W). Unfortunately, they are at two different
shops. I find both KEF and B&W to be very smooth sounding. I was
earlier considering PSB Image 4T but, dropped the idea after listening
to KEF and B&W. I am wondering what combinations I should select. I
listen to India Classical, Jazz and Rock and my listening volume level
is between 9 and 10 positions


Good amps sound pretty much the same with any reasonable speaker. So, trying
to listen to combinations is a waste of time. Furthermore, no speaker sounds
at home like it sounds in the store. For example, had I taken seriously what
I heard in the store when I demoed my NHT 2.5i speakers, I would have left
them there. When I brought them home, I knew almost instantly that I had
made a really good choice.

The moral is that you should look for a store with a good variety of
speakers, and has a good return/exchange policy. If the store has used
and/or demo speakers they want to sell you and is more flexible with them,
and they are good speakers, work with them. I bought a pair of demo
Paradigms and I still really like them. Their *problem* was that they were
last year's model and were discontinued. Speaker technology moves on, but
pretty slowly. You're better off with a last year's model that are
well-designed and built, rather than getting this year's model that is
mediocre. Who makes good speakers? Lots of people but my favorite brands are
Paradigm, PSB, Boston Acoustics and NHT.

I have the following questions:
1. If I have an option to go higher in Quality, should I spend money
on speakers or the amp


Speakers, no doubt! Seriously. If you upgrade from a $200 Pioneer receiver
to $2,000 worth of separates (I have both) your major benefits are
remarkably subtle considering the extreme price difference. In your first
system, there's a lot to be said for keeping things simple.

2. I have been reading about tube amps lately and it seems they sound
more warm and realistic. I have no prior experience with them. Should
I consider them at all. I know the local shop carries a model called
"Cary"


Tubes are for boobs. Seriously. They are a niche, specialty, boutique thing.
Time to get on with just building a good system. Tube amps do have to be
matched to the speakers you use them with, and this is a problem for people
who just want to get on with the serious business of listening to music.
Their price/performance is miserable.

3. Any suggestions on a good CD player and a cassette-deck


A good DVD player will play CDs as well as anything. I can't stand to listen
to cassettes on a good system, what with all the noise, compression and
distortion, so you're might want to ask someone else about them.

If I had to buy a another cassette machine for myself, I'd be prone to pick
up a good used Tascam on eBay. I work with them all the time and they are
built like a tank and keep on ticking. But for casual use, sub-$100 cassette
machines were once amazingly good performers, for a while. The medium is
really limited, sonically and spending the big bucks wisely primarily gets
you durability, not more sound quality.

This is my first purchase of hi-fi stereo equipment and therefore
knowledge on most of the products is limited. Any other companies
should I consider. I am willing to spend around Can $2000 - 2500 on
the amp + speaker combination


If you spend $2K on a pair of speakers plus a subwoofer, you can end up with
a system that really sings. Spending more than $500 on a receiver and a disc
player for a system in this price range is IMO & IME sheerest folly. I say
this as a person whose main system set him back about $6K.

I have to admit that if I had to do it all over again, I might consider not
building a big home system at all. My life's too busy to sit down and listen
to music and nothing else for more than a few hours a week. My last audio
purchase was a Creative Labs Nomad Jukebox 3 and a pair of Sony MDR EX70LP
ear buds. I really like being able to choose from my favorite music where I
am without fiddling with discs, working from the equivalent of about 50 CDs.
There's 20 GB of disk so I don't have to tolerate listening to MP3 files.
Under $300 for the whole enchilada. But I'm thinking about upgrading the
"speakers"...