On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 17:49:47 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:58:58 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 13:43:33 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Joseph Oberlander" wrote in
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dave weil wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 12:03:24 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Yeesh - what next - more job-elitism from Krueger?

Weil has expressed job elitism of his own for example:


http://www.google.com/groups?selm=de...d9ri%404 ax.c
om&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain

Well, considering that I was responding to this:

"The difference between you and Me Mr. Weil is that you aren't
making a living what you like to do best (sic). Just tell me that
you grew up wanting to wait on tables"...

...I'd say that I was justified in fighting back with a little
elitism of my own.

Yes Weil, its always justified when you do it, and unjustified when
I do it. That's how your biased little mind works.

You tried to imply that I diss your occupation out of the blue.

Well you certainly have done it.

Prove it. The example you showed was in response to *your* prior
dissing.

I suspect that lies from Middius are behind
it.

Yeah, and pigs can fly.

This was false and deceptive editing on your part.

The fact of the matter Weil is that I've shown that you attack me out of the
blue again and again.

Prove it.

That's how it works with you, Mr. Krueger - you deceptively
post the snippets that support your position, while disregarding the
rest. You refuse to accept responsibility for your own flaming. And
on and on and on...

The fact of the matter Weil is that it's you who fail to take responsibility
for your own actions. You've provided evidence that I caught you in a
deceptive straw man argument,


No, I simply showed that you *accused* me of a straw man argument, one
that was in your mind.

made a humorous comment, and as you've
admitted in your mind it justifies all of the reprehensible actions you've
made, including trying to use any tragedies that you know about in my life
against me. And you've done that again and again, too.

Nope. I've said that that's where it begins, with snide comments like
that. It rapidly accelerates into a ****ing contest though. Same thing
just reently happened to Schizoid Man, and in the past, to Dr. Feng,
jj johnson, Mr. Oberlander, Ed Shain, joe duffy and others.

I already showed that you flamed me long before I first mentioned
you.

Not true. I showed conclusively that you started the snotty comments
two years before you claimed.

Weil, it wasn't a snotty comment, Weil.

Sure it was. Of course, it's impossible to see *any* of your snotty
comments as such.

It was a humorous comment about your
"debating trade" tactics - in this case a straw man argument.

Prove it.

If you're this
hypersensitive about being caught using deceptive tactics, well then don't
use deceptive tactics!

You first, Mr. Deception.

Or are you too embarrassed to bring up the fact that you apparently
have no clue how to "google"?

You're posturing as usual, Weil.

I'm not posturing. You claimed that my first mention of you was in
2001, according to your google skills. This turned out to be off by,
what was it? Oh, I remember. TWO YEARS!

You rant and rave about other people's bad behavior, but there's the slight matter of yours.

Yes, I agree that it's a slight matter indeed.

Thank you for that.

"As am I, you moron. I can't help it if you slaved in the auto
industry for years and now feel relieved to be assembling cheap
computers for the local dentist."

BTW his account of my career is almost entirely false. For
example, I haven't worked in the auto industry since November,
1974.

OK, so you *haven't* worked in the auto industry for years.

Other than a little consulting...



Why did you tell a lie about it? I've pointed this lie that you are
fond of repeating before.

Are you claiming that you didn't work in the auto industry for years?

I haven't worked for the auto industry for years and years and years, about
29 of them.

OK, so you only worked for the auto industry for 4 years before you
got laid off. Who knows *what* sort of bizarre job you ended up doing.

Cool.

Not cool that you've told this lie again and again.

Are you saying I'm lying about you having worked in the car industry
for years?

Right. Since I haven't worked in the auto industry since 1974, any mention
of it as conditioning my current attitudes is a deception.

I see. Your history of an "engineer" doesn't affect your outlook.
Fine.

So, not only does
Weil practice his own job elitism, he does so by telling lies about
me.

If you didn't work in the auto industry for years, as you have
previously claimed, then I would consider myself having been misled
by you, not having lied about you.

I've tried to disabuse the entirety of RAO of this lie when Middius
told it, many times. Now you are so delusional as to say that you
consider yourself to be mislead by me?

So, you didn't work for Chrysler for years?

Are you claiming that it's a lie to say that you worked in the auto
industry for years?

Since I haven't worked in the auto industry since 1974, any mention of it as
conditioning my current attitudes is a deception.

I notice that you refuse to answer the question. Of course, as it
turns out, I've worked longer at my current restaurant than you spent
at Chrysler. And yet, you used to trumpet your experience there as it
was some sort of special stuff. Instead, you're just another discard
on Detroit's slag heap who was forced to do whatever piecemeal work he
could come up with.

shaking head at yet another example of Weil's delusional behavior

Sounds like a petit mal seizure to me...

Weil, thanks for admitting that you are the sort of idiot that calls an
ambulance every time one of your victims, I mean customers shakes his head
at your bizarre behavior.

I didn't call an ambulance for your seizure.

Sorry,

You lose.

Again.

OK, I'm delusion for thinking that you worked in the car industry.

That would be delusional, and that that would be for thinking that my
experiences in the auto industry something like 29 years ago somehow
conditions my behavior today.

Of course it does. You're supposed to have an engineer's mindset.
Thank you for admitting that youdon't.

what did you do between the Army and your current cottage industry?

Weil, I did something that you tried and failed to accomplish, which is one
reason that you resent me.

I went back to school on the GI bill (LOL!) and got a bachelor's degree in
engineering.

Then I worked for Chrysler as an automotive systems engineer, but that
didn't last very long because Chrysler went broke. They laid off just about
every engineer at their main office where I worked, which involved literally
thousands of people. They laid me off, but since I knew that Chrysler was
headed for very hard times, I had already lined up my next job and had my
reporting date when I walked out the door at Chrysler.

Then I mostly worked with mainframe computers - first as a scientific
application programmer, then as a system programmer, then as a systems
programming manager, then as a systems programming consultant and later as a
top manager working for a systems software house.

Prove it. I think that you might have worked in the maintenance arts.

Did you stay at home and let the little woman support you?

Truth be known, I mostly supported her and the kids you were whining about
in another post.

No wonder she's slaving away now.