"Shawn" wrote in message
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This is an issue that I would likely have noticed and fixed when I did
a real soundcheck.
The rational/professional side of me thinks that if a club isn't
professional enough to give us the opportunity to make our product
sound as good as it can then I just won't play there. At risk here is
speakers that can be blown, vocal cords that can be blown, a
reputation that can be blown...
This is really a no-brainer to me, but then I'm coming from the
professional musician's viewpoint not the professional (or
un-professional as the case may be) club owner perspective.
Will this kind of approach/limitation/demand limit the clubs we can
play in?
Is this that common?

Thanks to all,
Shawn

first which club were you in? Quixote's (sp)?

and yes it is a bad approach when trying to get into more venues insisting
on sound checks when you don't show up before 7pm... also there are so many
bands out there that are willing to play for pennies and not complain about
sound systems because they just want to get their spot to be seen... what
alot of musicians don't realize is that Guitar Center and Musicians Friend
and all of the others are big and in business because there are alot of
bands around, with that said it isn't a big deal (unless you have a known
draw) to say "we wont play" because there are 1000's of other bands waiting
for that stage to be open...

now with the sound issues: in my case the troupe I run with, can go with out
sound checks as 1. I carry my own Mics and DI's so I have a good idea as to
what I will be getting from the stage. 2. (in the case where the system is
already working for DJ) I listen to the system look at the amps get a grasp
for how its responding. and 3. I've been doing it (sound) long enough! with
that I can go on the fly and it not be a big deal... hope this helps... so
get your mics and a good workable input list together it speeds up things
when pinning the stage as well as give your FOH person a better sense of
consistency which helps for those time sound checks aren't possible... wait
til you get to doing festivals

michael