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ospam (WillStG) wrote in message ...
"Roger W. Norman"

I'm not answering for George. As George Carlin said, organized religion is
responsible for some 197,000,000 deaths since the inception of Christianity.

Enough said?

And as I said, as all of human civilization has been based on religion
that's a _bull****_ way to indict Christianity, or religion in general.

I mean if you want to go down that road how about Atheism being
responsible for the death by mass murder and genocide of over 300 Million
people in the 20th Century?

That is a Myth, where did you get these Stats, Pat Robertson?

Maybe George Carlin would like claim as an atheist
or nihilist responsibility for the brutality of the State Atheism of
Mao,

japanese Imperialists killed more and used Biological warfare in an un
prosecuted violation of the Geneva convention against China.

Mao brought stability in 1949.. and created the China we see today.
the one America has no problem dealing with; Walmart , America's
Largest Employer, with 70% of their products made in China.

Stalin,

You would all be spaking German if it weren't for Stalin. America
joined that war late in the game.

Pol Pot

an American creation, left to be cleaned up by the Vietnamese People's
Army... I thought you knew some history?

or Kim Il Sung?

You might want to read some history about Korea. Kim Sung Il fought
against Japanese imperialists like yourself. Korea would be United
today if it weren't for the interferance of America. IT;s the Puppet
Government of the South.. who only got elections in 1987, that are
constantly screwing up the reunification process. Talk to some people
who have visited the DMZ in Korea. It's Trigger Happy Americans that
make that a live fire zone. The American supported governments with
the aid of US forces killed student protesters en masse in the 1950s.

And secular civilization is a relatively new phenomena, but if you want to
evaluate based on more recent history would you like to argue the French
Revolution for example was more humane and less bloody than the religious based
"Glorious Revolution" in England? Or should people who beleive in Atlantis and
Lemuria be responsible for the Nazis killing 6 million Jews? (the Nazi
leadership had a religious beleif that "The Aryan Race" were pure descendents
of Atlantian survivors).

Or Americans like Henry Ford, and IBM, who gave unending support to
help this Holocaust
Does his religion really matter? I think IBM might state that tthey
are a Christian Company, based on "Christian Values".

It's all weak reasoning Roger.

I find nothing wrong with being religious, just something wrong with HAVING
religion, particularly religion that allows one to specificy that others are
wrong, or others are so different that they don't deserve the grace of god.
If one places the onus on me to be religious based on their precepts, then
either I'm going to hell with their help, or I'm simply a man that has my own
ideas about what religion consists of, and I have my own method of
meeting my god. Am I religious?

Well if you are meeting God personally it doesn't really matter much what
people say about your faith, does it? What others think only matters when you
are looking for approval, or if you beleive a relationship with a particular
person or institution is needed for personal growth or to gain God's approval.
Why does it matter to you what "The Church" has to say if you're sure of where
you stand with the Allmighty? I mean it ain't Protestantism unless you can
start your own denomination. Hey, you're giving a sermon right here, ain't ya?
You'll fit right in.

Maybe you are joking, or maybe your view of spirituality is that
shallow, or used as a flag of convieniance William J Miho.