This is a good question, and I think you need to be a Muslem male to
properly answer it. As I suggested, and as has been documented, the
torturers or whoever advised them familiarised themselves with Muslem
belief just enough to ensure what they did to the prisoners would
shame them in their own and their people's eyes for all time. For
instance, I don't think it's acidental that they were led around on a
leash by FEMALE guards. To the Muslem mind this is extremely
significant. So too is the homosexual element explicit in many of the
photos. To properly understand all this one needs to look at it from
the Muslem male point of view, and the national and religious pride
that that suggests. College hazing just doesn't come into it. Indeed
the mere comparison only shows how little the women's lib influenced
western mind understands the Arab male.


These guys werre hillbillies from Cumberland, Maryland.
I think they acted out of common meanness; they are
waaaay to unsophisticated to understand anything
about Muslim culture. I live fairly close to that
area and have had work assigneetns up there,
so I know what its like up there in the mountains
of Western Maryland.


Fair enough, but I saw a documentary that went into the details of the
humiliation and strongly suggested that someone had taken the trouble
to find out what would most demean and shame an Arab male. The case
for such careful research was very strong. The suggestion was not that
the guards knew what they were doing, but that Special Forces had
instructed them.