Nousaine wrote:

Eddie Runner wrote:

Just slapping dynamat on there like Tom had done for his
bull**** article

For the record the product was not 'slapped in' it was installed by a Dynamat
recommended installation facility (specialized in custom vehicles and
restorations.)

But the Camaro Z28 is a relatively noisy car by any standard. And the Dynamat
advertising said that it would reduce car noise by up to 9 dB at IDLE.

OK, you proved DYNAMAT WRONG...
The merchandising and advertising guys are generally idiots anyway...

I dont have a problem with that part of your article....

But I do have a problem with the perception your article gives
that DYNAMAT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE EVER!

It may not in some cases (as advertised), and may in other cases!

So many cars have such good sound deadening carpet and carpet padding
as well as materials just like DYNAMAT glued to the door panels direct
from the manufacturer of the car that MORE may not make any difference
at all....

But on the other hand, there are some BUDGET WORK TRUCKS
(for instance) that have no carpet and little damping materials that can
be benifited (road noise wise) by some materials (like Dynamat).... I
have one scheduled on Saturday that has very TINNY sounding doors
when you slam the door and your inside...

In instances like this much noise can be gotten rid of...

One guy bought the dynamat from us and did one door, he told me that
riding on the freeway next to the center concrete barrier made much less
noise with the dynamat in his door....

We used to do alot of the Hummer H1s with the Dynamat MAX with the
lead sheet in it, it made a HUGE difference on the old Hummers... The
newer H1s have LOTS of sound deadening in them from the factory now,
the old ones did not...

I know the Dynamat hoodliner I used in my UNIMOG sure cut down
the engine noise to a level that I could talk over in the cab, sure knocked
down the noise in the cab from the huge knobby tires as well......

On my 99 Suburban I used to have, I backed up and sideswiped a
telephone pole with the drivers door... The body shop I took it to
put on a new door skin.... It was CHEAPO materials I guess cause
it was so thin it almost sounded like I was driving with the door open... I
lined the inside of the door skin with dynamat and it sounded like the
original door again... and had a nice solid feel when closing it instead
of a tinny echo....

Your article and NO DIFFERENCE is certainly missleading folks
that can benifit by the TRUTH instread of your sensationalist LIES..

Tom Nosaine wants you to believe IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE!
But it CAN!!!
If used correctly!!!
And just to **** Tom off here is MY ARTICLE ON THE SUBJECT!
http://installer.com/tech/rattles.html

What's so funny here is Eddie says that if your license plate or trunk rattles
you should fix that. So? You certainly don't need Dynamat to damp a license
plate or trunk lid rattle. It will work for that; but it will NOT reduce the
overall level of vehicle noise.

IT SURE CAN in the right situation!!
But as usuall TOM, your a MORON so I wont tell you anything
anymore .. Just let folks read my article and figure it out for themselves...

And like my article says, it doesnt have to be DYNAMAT, it can
be carpet, it can be wadded up toilet paper, it can be wood, it can be
silicone rubber, it can be many materials that may work in many situations...

Your article comes off with a NO DIFFERENCE, and dont even try
attitude, where my article has a FIND IT, then FIX IT theme....

Let the readers be the judge...
ha ha ha

I didn't do that experiment to quiet the car. It was done to examine the claims
of the manufacturer.

With that part I agree with you.... But with the NO DIFFERENCE attitude
on ANY CAR is what I take issue with Tom....

All modern vehicles have lots of sound deadening in them.

Most do, this CHEAPO chevy truck I am going to work on Saturday
does not, and its BRAND NEW.... No carpet, no power windows,
no lectric locks, and a cheap tinny sounding door... it ECHOS!!!

That's the point.
Dynamat isn't going to help you with vehicle noise problems.

On the plush expensive cars maybe not, on many cheap cars, it certainly can help!!

You could spend
money on fixing rattles with it but there is plenty of other screws, goop and
stick-on stuff to help you with that at ACE Hardware.

I wont argue that point either, before Dynamat (and even still) I use whatever
material I think will do the job best... Sometimes its dynamat and sometimes
its something else.... Some folks do think Dynamat is a CURE ALL and it is
not... But its not USELESS EITHER!!

Use the best stuff for the situation, if its Dynamat then fine, if its something
else
then thats fine also...

Eddie Runner
http://www.installer.com/tech/