difference in fm tuner quality?

[Red_Baron]

Is there any diffrence in quality of the builtin fm radio tuner in the
lower class HU-s? I have a problem with my current HU (old AIWA)-
can't hear any radio station when the signal is weak.

[BigBob]

My Alpne 9805 is crap as far as FM goes.
Sad to say as Alpines were very good in the olde daze.

"Red_Baron" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Is there any diffrence in quality of the builtin fm radio tuner in the
> lower class HU-s? I have a problem with my current HU (old AIWA)-
> can't hear any radio station when the signal is weak.
>

[Christopher \Torroid\ Ott]

Definitely. FM tuner quality will vary from brand to brand, and even model
to model within the same brand.

Chris

"Red_Baron" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Is there any diffrence in quality of the builtin fm radio tuner in the
> lower class HU-s? I have a problem with my current HU (old AIWA)-
> can't hear any radio station when the signal is weak.
>

[Matt Ion]

Christopher "Torroid" Ott wrote:
> Definitely. FM tuner quality will vary from brand to brand, and even model
> to model within the same brand.

This is true - the old Pioneer SuperTuner III was incredible. At the
car audio shop I was working in back in '90-'91, in south Vancouver, I
could pull in a Seattle FM station - over 100 miles away - without the
antenna even connected to the deck.

[g]

In article <EkoWi.167461$th2.154355@pd7urf3no>, Matt Ion > wrote:
>Christopher "Torroid" Ott wrote:
>> Definitely. FM tuner quality will vary from brand to brand, and even model
>> to model within the same brand.
>
>This is true - the old Pioneer SuperTuner III was incredible. At the
>car audio shop I was working in back in '90-'91, in south Vancouver, I
>could pull in a Seattle FM station - over 100 miles away - without the
>antenna even connected to the deck.

I find that hard to believe.

I don't know whats in it, but my old Premier HU tuner worked pretty well, until
it broke last year.

greg

[Red_Baron]

On 1 stu, 17:34, "Christopher \"Torroid\" Ott" <spamtrap at
ottelectronics dot com> wrote:
> Definitely. FM tuner quality will vary from brand to brand, and even model
> to model within the same brand.
>
> Chris

Okay. So how can I know what brand and/or model has a good tuner?
Generally, people are not so interested in tuner performance. So are
there any online reviews where I can find out about quality tuners?
Does product specifications say anything about tuner performance? Or
maybe you have a recommendation.

[g]

In article m>, Red_Baron > wrote:
>On 1 stu, 17:34, "Christopher \"Torroid\" Ott" <spamtrap at
>ottelectronics dot com> wrote:
>> Definitely. FM tuner quality will vary from brand to brand, and even model
>> to model within the same brand.
>>
>> Chris
>
>Okay. So how can I know what brand and/or model has a good tuner?
>Generally, people are not so interested in tuner performance. So are
>there any online reviews where I can find out about quality tuners?
>Does product specifications say anything about tuner performance? Or
>maybe you have a recommendation.
>

There must be reviews or recommendations somewhere, including here
in the archieves. I remember one of the car audio magazines used
to check out the radios by driving around the city "Miami" in a standard vehicle.
Specs don't necessarily pick out all whats need to be said about performance.
i'm really surprised diversity reception is not the standard using two antennas.

greg

[Mister.Lull]

On Nov 1, 12:33 pm, (G) wrote:
> In article m>, Red_Baron > wrote:
> >On 1 stu, 17:34, "Christopher \"Torroid\" Ott" <spamtrap at
> >ottelectronics dot com> wrote:
> >> Definitely. FM tuner quality will vary from brand to brand, and even model
> >> to model within the same brand.
>
> >> Chris
>
> >Okay. So how can I know what brand and/or model has a good tuner?
> >Generally, people are not so interested in tuner performance. So are
> >there any online reviews where I can find out about quality tuners?
> >Does product specifications say anything about tuner performance? Or
> >maybe you have a recommendation.
>
> There must be reviews or recommendations somewhere, including here
> in the archieves. I remember one of the car audio magazines used
> to check out the radios by driving around the city "Miami" in a standard vehicle.
> Specs don't necessarily pick out all whats need to be said about performance.
> i'm really surprised diversity reception is not the standard using two antennas.
>
> greg

Alternatively, you could opt for a power boosted antenna. I'm
guessing that would fix any issues with weak reception...

~Mister.Lull

[g]

In article . com>, "Mister.Lull" > wrote:
>On Nov 1, 12:33 pm, (G) wrote:
>> In article m>, Red_Baron
> > wrote:
>> >On 1 stu, 17:34, "Christopher \"Torroid\" Ott" <spamtrap at
>> >ottelectronics dot com> wrote:
>> >> Definitely. FM tuner quality will vary from brand to brand, and even model
>> >> to model within the same brand.
>>
>> >> Chris
>>
>> >Okay. So how can I know what brand and/or model has a good tuner?
>> >Generally, people are not so interested in tuner performance. So are
>> >there any online reviews where I can find out about quality tuners?
>> >Does product specifications say anything about tuner performance? Or
>> >maybe you have a recommendation.
>>
>> There must be reviews or recommendations somewhere, including here
>> in the archieves. I remember one of the car audio magazines used
>> to check out the radios by driving around the city "Miami" in a standard
> vehicle.
>> Specs don't necessarily pick out all whats need to be said about performance.
>> i'm really surprised diversity reception is not the standard using two
> antennas.
>>
>> greg
>
>Alternatively, you could opt for a power boosted antenna. I'm
>guessing that would fix any issues with weak reception...
>
>~Mister.Lull

In some cases it might help, but in many cases there is no improvement,
and many cases signal overload, and possible decrease in S/N ratio.
The only tme a boster works, is when you have a very long lead wire,
say 100 feet, and a booster at the antenna is going to help out the transfer loss.
The first amp in the antenna chain primarily controls the S/N ratio. Having the other
inside the HU in series, only adds noise.

greg

[Christopher \Torroid\ Ott]

"Red_Baron" > wrote in message
ps.com...
> On 1 stu, 17:34, "Christopher \"Torroid\" Ott" <spamtrap at
> ottelectronics dot com> wrote:
>> Definitely. FM tuner quality will vary from brand to brand, and even
>> model
>> to model within the same brand.
>>
>> Chris
>
> Okay. So how can I know what brand and/or model has a good tuner?
> Generally, people are not so interested in tuner performance. So are
> there any online reviews where I can find out about quality tuners?
> Does product specifications say anything about tuner performance? Or
> maybe you have a recommendation.

Specs aren't going to be real useful for FM as they're often embellished
anyway. Also, there's not a whole lot of interest in FM these days, so you
probably won't see alot of effort being spent there. The presence of a
diversity antenna is a good sign, not only because of the extra feature, but
the fact that they're putting an emphasis on quality FM makes it reasonable
to assume some extra attention may have gone into the tuner design.

Google is your friend here. Also, look through the reviews on Crutchfield,
Circuit City, and any other website which sells current equipment and posts
product reviews.

Chris

[Deke]

"Matt Ion" > wrote in message
news:EkoWi.167461$th2.154355@pd7urf3no...
> Christopher "Torroid" Ott wrote:
> > Definitely. FM tuner quality will vary from brand to brand, and even
model
> > to model within the same brand.
>
> This is true - the old Pioneer SuperTuner III was incredible. At the
> car audio shop I was working in back in '90-'91, in south Vancouver, I
> could pull in a Seattle FM station - over 100 miles away - without the
> antenna even connected to the deck.

Supertuners were great! I could pull in stations in my car that I couldn't
get with my receiver in the house.
When my current HU dies, I'm going with a JVC HD tuner.
Don't know who else offers them.
Nice thing about digital HD stations, you get sub-channels, just like in
digital TV. So with one station, you could get several different
sub-channels to listen to.
Analog FM will be replaced, just because of the subchannels, and the CD
quality sound capability.
D

[Matt Ion]

G wrote:
> In article <EkoWi.167461$th2.154355@pd7urf3no>, Matt Ion > wrote:
>> Christopher "Torroid" Ott wrote:
>>> Definitely. FM tuner quality will vary from brand to brand, and even model
>>> to model within the same brand.
>> This is true - the old Pioneer SuperTuner III was incredible. At the
>> car audio shop I was working in back in '90-'91, in south Vancouver, I
>> could pull in a Seattle FM station - over 100 miles away - without the
>> antenna even connected to the deck.
>
> I find that hard to believe.

Don't then, see if I care.