Second British general launches attack on 'fatal flaws' in U.S. policyin Iraq

[Eeyore]

A second retired British general has lambasted the United States over its Iraq
policy, saying it bungled the aftermath of the invasion.

Major General Tim Cross, the most senior UK officer involved in the post-war
planning, said Washington's policy had been "fatally flawed".

He also insisted he had raised serious concerns about the possibility of the
country sliding into chaos with Donald Rumsfeld - but the then-US defence
secretary "dismissed" the warnings.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk:80/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=479378&in_page_id=1811&in_page_id=1811

I have to say, I do admire our military for their candour.

It's such a shame the Americans don't 'get it'.

Graham

[Eeyore]

Soundhaspriority wrote:

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> >> "Eeyore" > wrote in message
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> >>>A second retired British general has lambasted the United States over its
> >>>Iraq
> >>> policy, saying it bungled the aftermath of the invasion.
> >>>
> >>> Major General Tim Cross, the most senior UK officer involved in the
> >>> post-war
> >>> planning, said Washington's policy had been "fatally flawed".
> >>>
> >>> He also insisted he had raised serious concerns about the possibility of
> >>> the
> >>> country sliding into chaos with Donald Rumsfeld - but the then-US
> >>> defence
> >>> secretary "dismissed" the warnings.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk:80/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=479378&in_page_id=1811&in_page_id=1811
> >>>
> >>> I have to say, I do admire our military for their candour.
> >>>
> >>> It's such a shame the Americans don't 'get it'.
> >>>
> >>> Graham
> >>>
> >> This Administration doesn't "get it." But inspite of the "Scotts", (and
> >> I mean the r.a.o. kind, not the quilted kind), there are many of us
> >> Americans who do get it. I supported the invasion, but the bungling in
> >> all aspects save the war itself, is the fault of the U.S.,
> >
> > Actually, British tactics in Basra weren't all that successful.
> > Meanwhile, since the post war situation is the fault of the US
> > in your view,
> > how do you suggest we own up to our responsibility?
> >
> > ScottW
> Pay child support.
>
> Bob Morein
> (310) 237-6511

How about rebuilding all the infrastructure that got trashed ?

Graham

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On Sep 3, 11:00 am, "ScottW" > wrote:
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> >>A second retired British general has lambasted the United States over its Iraq
> >> policy, saying it bungled the aftermath of the invasion.
>
> >> Major General Tim Cross, the most senior UK officer involved in the post-war
> >> planning, said Washington's policy had been "fatally flawed".
>
> >> He also insisted he had raised serious concerns about the possibility of the
> >> country sliding into chaos with Donald Rumsfeld - but the then-US defence
> >> secretary "dismissed" the warnings.
>
> >>http://www.dailymail.co.uk:80/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html...
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> >> I have to say, I do admire our military for their candour.
>
> >> It's such a shame the Americans don't 'get it'.
>
> >> Graham
>
> > This Administration doesn't "get it." But inspite of the "Scotts", (and I
> > mean the r.a.o. kind, not the quilted kind), there are many of us Americans
> > who do get it. I supported the invasion, but the bungling in all aspects save
> > the war itself, is the fault of the U.S.,
>
> Actually, British tactics in Basra weren't all that successful.
> Meanwhile, since the post war situation is the fault of the US
> in your view,
> how do you suggest we own up to our responsibility?

"In your view."

LOL!

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On Sep 4, 7:07 pm, "Soundhaspriority" > wrote:
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> > On Sep 3, 3:04 pm, "Soundhaspriority" > wrote:
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> >> > "Soundhaspriority" > wrote in message
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> >> >> "Eeyore" > wrote in message
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> >> >>>A second retired British general has lambasted the United States over
> >> >>>its
> >> >>>Iraq
> >> >>> policy, saying it bungled the aftermath of the invasion.
>
> >> >>> Major General Tim Cross, the most senior UK officer involved in the
> >> >>> post-war
> >> >>> planning, said Washington's policy had been "fatally flawed".
>
> >> >>> He also insisted he had raised serious concerns about the possibility
> >> >>> of
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> country sliding into chaos with Donald Rumsfeld - but the then-US
> >> >>> defence
> >> >>> secretary "dismissed" the warnings.
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> >> >>>http://www.dailymail.co.uk:80/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html...
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> >> >>> I have to say, I do admire our military for their candour.
>
> >> >>> It's such a shame the Americans don't 'get it'.
>
> >> >>> Graham
>
> >> >> This Administration doesn't "get it." But inspite of the "Scotts",
> >> >> (and
> >> >> I mean the r.a.o. kind, not the quilted kind), there are many of us
> >> >> Americans who do get it. I supported the invasion, but the bungling
> >> >> in
> >> >> all aspects save the war itself, is the fault of the U.S.,
>
> >> > Actually, British tactics in Basra weren't all that successful.
> >> > Meanwhile, since the post war situation is the fault of the US
> >> > in your view,
> >> > how do you suggest we own up to our responsibility?
>
> >> > ScottW
>
> >> Pay child support.
>
> > Before you ever get laid?
> > You're one hell of a patriot, Bob.
>
> > ScottW
>
> Scott, that sounds like something Brett might say: a cheap shot. Both of you
> are capable of better.

No, he isn't.

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On Sep 3, 4:18 am, Eeyore >
wrote:
> A second retired British general has lambasted the United States over its Iraq
> policy, saying it bungled the aftermath of the invasion.
>
> Major General Tim Cross, the most senior UK officer involved in the post-war
> planning, said Washington's policy had been "fatally flawed".
>
> He also insisted he had raised serious concerns about the possibility of the
> country sliding into chaos with Donald Rumsfeld - but the then-US defence
> secretary "dismissed" the warnings.
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk:80/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html...
>
> I have to say, I do admire our military for their candour.
>
> It's such a shame the Americans don't 'get it'.

Hm.

"The American Middle East peace envoy, General Anthony Zinni, has
warned that a war with Iraq could make the situation between Israel
and the Palestinians much worse."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2245632.stm

Hm.

"In some U.S. cities, protesters attempted to shut their respective
cities down."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_the_2003_Iraq_war

Please do not equate the imbecility of 2pid and pople like him with
the population of the US at large. 2pid is demonstrably several
standard deviations to the left on the IQ curve.