Trouble using DIN tool

[Lou[_2_]]

I made DIN tools from a coathanger, but I can't get the radio out. Is a
coathanger not firm enough?

Actually, something might be wrong with the locking tab inside the lower
right hole. That tab feels like it wont bend in, and the haner gets stuck
in that hole. If something is broken in there and the DIN tool won't work,
what's the next best way to get the radio out?

[Lou[_2_]]

I finally got it out. It just took a lot of probing and finesse. Two
minutes later, my new Sony CDX-GT310 was in and working. It's my first
aftermarket head unit, and I'm happy with it. I'll post a review after I've
spent more time with it.

"Lou" > wrote in message
...
> I made DIN tools from a coathanger, but I can't get the radio out. Is a
> coathanger not firm enough?
>
> Actually, something might be wrong with the locking tab inside the lower
> right hole. That tab feels like it wont bend in, and the haner gets stuck
> in that hole. If something is broken in there and the DIN tool won't
work,
> what's the next best way to get the radio out?
>
>

[Matt Ion]

Lou wrote:
> I finally got it out. It just took a lot of probing and finesse. Two
> minutes later, my new Sony CDX-GT310 was in and working. It's my first
> aftermarket head unit, and I'm happy with it. I'll post a review after I've
> spent more time with it.
>
> "Lou" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I made DIN tools from a coathanger, but I can't get the radio out. Is a
>> coathanger not firm enough?
>>
>> Actually, something might be wrong with the locking tab inside the lower
>> right hole. That tab feels like it wont bend in, and the haner gets stuck
>> in that hole. If something is broken in there and the DIN tool won't
> work,
>> what's the next best way to get the radio out?

Next time, it would be helpful if you specified the vehicle, at least.
A "DIN tool" is completely meaningless.

[MOSFET]

> Next time, it would be helpful if you specified the vehicle, at least.
> A "DIN tool" is completely meaningless.
>


Matt,

It wasn't meaningless at all to me. I have removed factory head units from
Ford vehicles and I had to buy a couple of flat metal "grabbers" (you can
buy these anywhere including Walmart) in order to remove the unit. To me,
it was clear he was talking about that and frankly I thought it was a
perfectly clear way of describing the tool.

Not trying to start an argument, flame war, or anything, it's just that it
was clear to me what he needed and was attempting to do.

MOSFET

[Matt Ion]

MOSFET wrote:
>> Next time, it would be helpful if you specified the vehicle, at least.
>> A "DIN tool" is completely meaningless.
>>
>
>
> Matt,
>
> It wasn't meaningless at all to me. I have removed factory head units from
> Ford vehicles and I had to buy a couple of flat metal "grabbers" (you can
> buy these anywhere including Walmart) in order to remove the unit. To me,
> it was clear he was talking about that and frankly I thought it was a
> perfectly clear way of describing the tool.
>
> Not trying to start an argument, flame war, or anything, it's just that it
> was clear to me what he needed and was attempting to do.

I've worked on a lot of vehicles (when I was working in the biz) that
had factory DIN decks and different "tools" used to remove them. The
Fords all had a pair of U-shaped "handles" with catches on the ends that
were inserted into holes in the faceplate of the deck. Others had
variations on flat metal tabs that were inserted down the sides of the deck.

It's clear what he's trying to do, but not so much what SPECIFIC tool he
was trying to replicate without at least knowing the make of the vehicle.

[Matt Ion]

Matt Ion wrote:
> MOSFET wrote:
>>> Next time, it would be helpful if you specified the vehicle, at least.
>>> A "DIN tool" is completely meaningless.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Matt,
>>
>> It wasn't meaningless at all to me. I have removed factory head units
>> from
>> Ford vehicles and I had to buy a couple of flat metal "grabbers" (you can
>> buy these anywhere including Walmart) in order to remove the unit. To
>> me,
>> it was clear he was talking about that and frankly I thought it was a
>> perfectly clear way of describing the tool.
>>
>> Not trying to start an argument, flame war, or anything, it's just
>> that it
>> was clear to me what he needed and was attempting to do.
>
> I've worked on a lot of vehicles (when I was working in the biz) that
> had factory DIN decks and different "tools" used to remove them. The
> Fords all had a pair of U-shaped "handles" with catches on the ends that
> were inserted into holes in the faceplate of the deck. Others had
> variations on flat metal tabs that were inserted down the sides of the
> deck.
>
> It's clear what he's trying to do, but not so much what SPECIFIC tool he
> was trying to replicate without at least knowing the make of the vehicle.

And besides, it's just generally good advice to give as much info as
possible when asking for help, don't you think?

"I need to remove something from my car and I made a doo-thingy out of
an old coathanger, what am I doing wrong" really isn't a very useful
place to start.

[e-nigma]

"Matt Ion" > wrote in message
news:Ku6ti.30730$fJ5.7782@pd7urf1no...
> MOSFET wrote:
>>> Next time, it would be helpful if you specified the vehicle, at least.
>>> A "DIN tool" is completely meaningless.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Matt,
>>
>> It wasn't meaningless at all to me. I have removed factory head units
>> from
>> Ford vehicles and I had to buy a couple of flat metal "grabbers" (you can
>> buy these anywhere including Walmart) in order to remove the unit. To
>> me,
>> it was clear he was talking about that and frankly I thought it was a
>> perfectly clear way of describing the tool.
>>
>> Not trying to start an argument, flame war, or anything, it's just that
>> it
>> was clear to me what he needed and was attempting to do.
>
> I've worked on a lot of vehicles (when I was working in the biz) that had
> factory DIN decks and different "tools" used to remove them. The Fords
> all had a pair of U-shaped "handles" with catches on the ends that were
> inserted into holes in the faceplate of the deck. Others had variations
> on flat metal tabs that were inserted down the sides of the deck.
>
> It's clear what he's trying to do, but not so much what SPECIFIC tool he
> was trying to replicate without at least knowing the make of the vehicle.


I agree with Matt. when I 1st read the post I was unsure of what he ment by
DIN tool,
since different vehicles use a different tool, plus the different brands of
head units
use a different tool for there radios (Sony, pioneer, Panasonic etc).
But after he said "coathanger", I was pretty sure it was a Ford or a Mazda
vehicle
that he was refering to.

[Matt Ion]

e-nigma wrote:
> "Matt Ion" > wrote in message
> news:Ku6ti.30730$fJ5.7782@pd7urf1no...
>> MOSFET wrote:
>>>> Next time, it would be helpful if you specified the vehicle, at least.
>>>> A "DIN tool" is completely meaningless.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Matt,
>>>
>>> It wasn't meaningless at all to me. I have removed factory head units
>>> from
>>> Ford vehicles and I had to buy a couple of flat metal "grabbers" (you can
>>> buy these anywhere including Walmart) in order to remove the unit. To
>>> me,
>>> it was clear he was talking about that and frankly I thought it was a
>>> perfectly clear way of describing the tool.
>>>
>>> Not trying to start an argument, flame war, or anything, it's just that
>>> it
>>> was clear to me what he needed and was attempting to do.
>> I've worked on a lot of vehicles (when I was working in the biz) that had
>> factory DIN decks and different "tools" used to remove them. The Fords
>> all had a pair of U-shaped "handles" with catches on the ends that were
>> inserted into holes in the faceplate of the deck. Others had variations
>> on flat metal tabs that were inserted down the sides of the deck.
>>
>> It's clear what he's trying to do, but not so much what SPECIFIC tool he
>> was trying to replicate without at least knowing the make of the vehicle.
>
>
> I agree with Matt. when I 1st read the post I was unsure of what he ment by
> DIN tool,
> since different vehicles use a different tool, plus the different brands of
> head units
> use a different tool for there radios (Sony, pioneer, Panasonic etc).
> But after he said "coathanger", I was pretty sure it was a Ford or a Mazda
> vehicle
> that he was refering to.

I suspected Ford as well, when he mentioned the coat hanger, but as you
say, some Mazdas also use this sort of tool, and other designs CAN be
removed with similar rod-type tools... so ASSuming anything doesn't get
us anywhere.

[MOSFET]

OK, fair enough. He did not give enough information. Fine.

HOWEVER, we CAN assertain (I certainly did) that by DIN tool he meant a tool
to remove the HU. Again, don't want to start any flame war or anything, I
just felt calling his description "completely meaningless" a little cold as
I knew at least A) he was trying to fabricate a tool to remove the facotry
HU and B) was having problems.

Do we EVER get all the info we need to answer most poster's questions?
Usually not, and for good reason. They often don't know what's important
and what is not (he may not have thought the model, year, ect. of the
vehicle was relevant). So we ask more questions to try and nail down the
problem.

This all goes back to a point I made a long time ago about how we, as a
group or individualy, treat newbs.

I'll just say this one thing, if I had got a response like the one you gave,
I would probably never come back to this group.

Just something to think about.

MOSFET


"Matt Ion" > wrote in message
news:iXati.30975$fJ5.17406@pd7urf1no...
> e-nigma wrote:
> > "Matt Ion" > wrote in message
> > news:Ku6ti.30730$fJ5.7782@pd7urf1no...
> >> MOSFET wrote:
> >>>> Next time, it would be helpful if you specified the vehicle, at
least.
> >>>> A "DIN tool" is completely meaningless.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Matt,
> >>>
> >>> It wasn't meaningless at all to me. I have removed factory head units
> >>> from
> >>> Ford vehicles and I had to buy a couple of flat metal "grabbers" (you
can
> >>> buy these anywhere including Walmart) in order to remove the unit. To
> >>> me,
> >>> it was clear he was talking about that and frankly I thought it was a
> >>> perfectly clear way of describing the tool.
> >>>
> >>> Not trying to start an argument, flame war, or anything, it's just
that
> >>> it
> >>> was clear to me what he needed and was attempting to do.
> >> I've worked on a lot of vehicles (when I was working in the biz) that
had
> >> factory DIN decks and different "tools" used to remove them. The Fords
> >> all had a pair of U-shaped "handles" with catches on the ends that were
> >> inserted into holes in the faceplate of the deck. Others had
variations
> >> on flat metal tabs that were inserted down the sides of the deck.
> >>
> >> It's clear what he's trying to do, but not so much what SPECIFIC tool
he
> >> was trying to replicate without at least knowing the make of the
vehicle.
> >
> >
> > I agree with Matt. when I 1st read the post I was unsure of what he ment
by
> > DIN tool,
> > since different vehicles use a different tool, plus the different brands
of
> > head units
> > use a different tool for there radios (Sony, pioneer, Panasonic etc).
> > But after he said "coathanger", I was pretty sure it was a Ford or a
Mazda
> > vehicle
> > that he was refering to.
>
> I suspected Ford as well, when he mentioned the coat hanger, but as you
> say, some Mazdas also use this sort of tool, and other designs CAN be
> removed with similar rod-type tools... so ASSuming anything doesn't get
> us anywhere.

[Lou[_2_]]

MOSFET, it's precisely because of your understanding response that I didn't
unsubscribe. This being my first foray into aftermarket car audio, I'm
still learning what the right questions are. But I'm quite familiar with
how things go with online discussions, so I put the other responses in that
perspective.

"MOSFET" > wrote in message
m...
> OK, fair enough. He did not give enough information. Fine.
>
> HOWEVER, we CAN assertain (I certainly did) that by DIN tool he meant a
tool
> to remove the HU. Again, don't want to start any flame war or anything,
I
> just felt calling his description "completely meaningless" a little cold
as
> I knew at least A) he was trying to fabricate a tool to remove the facotry
> HU and B) was having problems.
>
> Do we EVER get all the info we need to answer most poster's questions?
> Usually not, and for good reason. They often don't know what's important
> and what is not (he may not have thought the model, year, ect. of the
> vehicle was relevant). So we ask more questions to try and nail down the
> problem.
>
> This all goes back to a point I made a long time ago about how we, as a
> group or individualy, treat newbs.
>
> I'll just say this one thing, if I had got a response like the one you
gave,
> I would probably never come back to this group.
>
> Just something to think about.
>
> MOSFET
>
>
> "Matt Ion" > wrote in message
> news:iXati.30975$fJ5.17406@pd7urf1no...
> > e-nigma wrote:
> > > "Matt Ion" > wrote in message
> > > news:Ku6ti.30730$fJ5.7782@pd7urf1no...
> > >> MOSFET wrote:
> > >>>> Next time, it would be helpful if you specified the vehicle, at
> least.
> > >>>> A "DIN tool" is completely meaningless.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Matt,
> > >>>
> > >>> It wasn't meaningless at all to me. I have removed factory head
units
> > >>> from
> > >>> Ford vehicles and I had to buy a couple of flat metal "grabbers"
(you
> can
> > >>> buy these anywhere including Walmart) in order to remove the unit.
To
> > >>> me,
> > >>> it was clear he was talking about that and frankly I thought it was
a
> > >>> perfectly clear way of describing the tool.
> > >>>
> > >>> Not trying to start an argument, flame war, or anything, it's just
> that
> > >>> it
> > >>> was clear to me what he needed and was attempting to do.
> > >> I've worked on a lot of vehicles (when I was working in the biz) that
> had
> > >> factory DIN decks and different "tools" used to remove them. The
Fords
> > >> all had a pair of U-shaped "handles" with catches on the ends that
were
> > >> inserted into holes in the faceplate of the deck. Others had
> variations
> > >> on flat metal tabs that were inserted down the sides of the deck.
> > >>
> > >> It's clear what he's trying to do, but not so much what SPECIFIC tool
> he
> > >> was trying to replicate without at least knowing the make of the
> vehicle.
> > >
> > >
> > > I agree with Matt. when I 1st read the post I was unsure of what he
ment
> by
> > > DIN tool,
> > > since different vehicles use a different tool, plus the different
brands
> of
> > > head units
> > > use a different tool for there radios (Sony, pioneer, Panasonic etc).
> > > But after he said "coathanger", I was pretty sure it was a Ford or a
> Mazda
> > > vehicle
> > > that he was refering to.
> >
> > I suspected Ford as well, when he mentioned the coat hanger, but as you
> > say, some Mazdas also use this sort of tool, and other designs CAN be
> > removed with similar rod-type tools... so ASSuming anything doesn't get
> > us anywhere.
>
>

[Captain Howdy[_3_]]

I can see why Mazda would use the same tool as Ford that's a given. Dont some
people use hammers to remove Ford Hu's?
>
>I suspected Ford as well, when he mentioned the coat hanger, but as you
>say, some Mazdas also use this sort of tool, and other designs CAN be
>removed with similar rod-type tools... so ASSuming anything doesn't get
>us anywhere.

[Captain Howdy[_3_]]

Well Lou, even with that said use some ****ing common sense when asking
questions in regards to your car. When you buy auto parts for the ****ing
thing do you only ask for the part and let the parts person guess what car you
need the parts for? Being a dip**** is one thing, but don't make excuses for
being you.

In article >, "Lou"
> wrote:
>MOSFET, it's precisely because of your understanding response that I didn't
>unsubscribe. This being my first foray into aftermarket car audio, I'm
>still learning what the right questions are. But I'm quite familiar with
>how things go with online discussions, so I put the other responses in that
>perspective.
>

[MOSFET]

Lou,

This is ****ing Captain Howdy and although he is not exactly a ****ing troll
because he does often offer good ****ing advice, he can be quite ****ing
abrasive.

BTW, guess what his favorite word is.

MOSFET



"Lou" > wrote in message
. ..
> MOSFET, it's precisely because of your understanding response that I
didn't
> unsubscribe. This being my first foray into aftermarket car audio, I'm
> still learning what the right questions are. But I'm quite familiar with
> how things go with online discussions, so I put the other responses in
that
> perspective.
>
> "MOSFET" > wrote in message
> m...
> > OK, fair enough. He did not give enough information. Fine.
> >
> > HOWEVER, we CAN assertain (I certainly did) that by DIN tool he meant a
> tool
> > to remove the HU. Again, don't want to start any flame war or anything,
> I
> > just felt calling his description "completely meaningless" a little cold
> as
> > I knew at least A) he was trying to fabricate a tool to remove the
facotry
> > HU and B) was having problems.
> >
> > Do we EVER get all the info we need to answer most poster's questions?
> > Usually not, and for good reason. They often don't know what's
important
> > and what is not (he may not have thought the model, year, ect. of the
> > vehicle was relevant). So we ask more questions to try and nail down
the
> > problem.
> >
> > This all goes back to a point I made a long time ago about how we, as a
> > group or individualy, treat newbs.
> >
> > I'll just say this one thing, if I had got a response like the one you
> gave,
> > I would probably never come back to this group.
> >
> > Just something to think about.
> >
> > MOSFET
> >
> >
> > "Matt Ion" > wrote in message
> > news:iXati.30975$fJ5.17406@pd7urf1no...
> > > e-nigma wrote:
> > > > "Matt Ion" > wrote in message
> > > > news:Ku6ti.30730$fJ5.7782@pd7urf1no...
> > > >> MOSFET wrote:
> > > >>>> Next time, it would be helpful if you specified the vehicle, at
> > least.
> > > >>>> A "DIN tool" is completely meaningless.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Matt,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> It wasn't meaningless at all to me. I have removed factory head
> units
> > > >>> from
> > > >>> Ford vehicles and I had to buy a couple of flat metal "grabbers"
> (you
> > can
> > > >>> buy these anywhere including Walmart) in order to remove the unit.
> To
> > > >>> me,
> > > >>> it was clear he was talking about that and frankly I thought it
was
> a
> > > >>> perfectly clear way of describing the tool.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Not trying to start an argument, flame war, or anything, it's just
> > that
> > > >>> it
> > > >>> was clear to me what he needed and was attempting to do.
> > > >> I've worked on a lot of vehicles (when I was working in the biz)
that
> > had
> > > >> factory DIN decks and different "tools" used to remove them. The
> Fords
> > > >> all had a pair of U-shaped "handles" with catches on the ends that
> were
> > > >> inserted into holes in the faceplate of the deck. Others had
> > variations
> > > >> on flat metal tabs that were inserted down the sides of the deck.
> > > >>
> > > >> It's clear what he's trying to do, but not so much what SPECIFIC
tool
> > he
> > > >> was trying to replicate without at least knowing the make of the
> > vehicle.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I agree with Matt. when I 1st read the post I was unsure of what he
> ment
> > by
> > > > DIN tool,
> > > > since different vehicles use a different tool, plus the different
> brands
> > of
> > > > head units
> > > > use a different tool for there radios (Sony, pioneer, Panasonic
etc).
> > > > But after he said "coathanger", I was pretty sure it was a Ford or a
> > Mazda
> > > > vehicle
> > > > that he was refering to.
> > >
> > > I suspected Ford as well, when he mentioned the coat hanger, but as
you
> > > say, some Mazdas also use this sort of tool, and other designs CAN be
> > > removed with similar rod-type tools... so ASSuming anything doesn't
get
> > > us anywhere.
> >
> >
>
>
>

[Captain Howdy[_3_]]

Not not exactly a ****ing pretender either.

In article >, "MOSFET"
> wrote:
>Lou,
>
>This is ****ing Captain Howdy and although he is not exactly a ****ing troll
>because he does often offer good ****ing advice, he can be quite ****ing
>abrasive.
>
>BTW, guess what his favorite word is.
>
>MOSFET
>
>

[Lou[_2_]]

Dipshot moment versus asshole life? I think I'll stick with my lot.

"Captain Howdy" > wrote in message
...
> Well Lou, even with that said use some ****ing common sense when asking
> questions in regards to your car. When you buy auto parts for the ****ing
> thing do you only ask for the part and let the parts person guess what car
you
> need the parts for? Being a dip**** is one thing, but don't make excuses
for
> being you.
>
> In article >, "Lou"
> > wrote:
> >MOSFET, it's precisely because of your understanding response that I
didn't
> >unsubscribe. This being my first foray into aftermarket car audio, I'm
> >still learning what the right questions are. But I'm quite familiar with
> >how things go with online discussions, so I put the other responses in
that
> >perspective.
> >
>

[Lou[_2_]]

Thanks for the support. I wasn't going to feed him, but why should he have
all the fun?

"MOSFET" > wrote in message
m...
> Lou,
>
> This is ****ing Captain Howdy and although he is not exactly a ****ing
troll
> because he does often offer good ****ing advice, he can be quite ****ing
> abrasive.
>
> BTW, guess what his favorite word is.
>
> MOSFET
>
>
>
> "Lou" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > MOSFET, it's precisely because of your understanding response that I
> didn't
> > unsubscribe. This being my first foray into aftermarket car audio, I'm
> > still learning what the right questions are. But I'm quite familiar
with
> > how things go with online discussions, so I put the other responses in
> that
> > perspective.
> >
> > "MOSFET" > wrote in message
> > m...
> > > OK, fair enough. He did not give enough information. Fine.
> > >
> > > HOWEVER, we CAN assertain (I certainly did) that by DIN tool he meant
a
> > tool
> > > to remove the HU. Again, don't want to start any flame war or
anything,
> > I
> > > just felt calling his description "completely meaningless" a little
cold
> > as
> > > I knew at least A) he was trying to fabricate a tool to remove the
> facotry
> > > HU and B) was having problems.
> > >
> > > Do we EVER get all the info we need to answer most poster's questions?
> > > Usually not, and for good reason. They often don't know what's
> important
> > > and what is not (he may not have thought the model, year, ect. of the
> > > vehicle was relevant). So we ask more questions to try and nail down
> the
> > > problem.
> > >
> > > This all goes back to a point I made a long time ago about how we, as
a
> > > group or individualy, treat newbs.
> > >
> > > I'll just say this one thing, if I had got a response like the one you
> > gave,
> > > I would probably never come back to this group.
> > >
> > > Just something to think about.
> > >
> > > MOSFET
> > >
> > >
> > > "Matt Ion" > wrote in message
> > > news:iXati.30975$fJ5.17406@pd7urf1no...
> > > > e-nigma wrote:
> > > > > "Matt Ion" > wrote in message
> > > > > news:Ku6ti.30730$fJ5.7782@pd7urf1no...
> > > > >> MOSFET wrote:
> > > > >>>> Next time, it would be helpful if you specified the vehicle, at
> > > least.
> > > > >>>> A "DIN tool" is completely meaningless.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Matt,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> It wasn't meaningless at all to me. I have removed factory head
> > units
> > > > >>> from
> > > > >>> Ford vehicles and I had to buy a couple of flat metal "grabbers"
> > (you
> > > can
> > > > >>> buy these anywhere including Walmart) in order to remove the
unit.
> > To
> > > > >>> me,
> > > > >>> it was clear he was talking about that and frankly I thought it
> was
> > a
> > > > >>> perfectly clear way of describing the tool.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Not trying to start an argument, flame war, or anything, it's
just
> > > that
> > > > >>> it
> > > > >>> was clear to me what he needed and was attempting to do.
> > > > >> I've worked on a lot of vehicles (when I was working in the biz)
> that
> > > had
> > > > >> factory DIN decks and different "tools" used to remove them. The
> > Fords
> > > > >> all had a pair of U-shaped "handles" with catches on the ends
that
> > were
> > > > >> inserted into holes in the faceplate of the deck. Others had
> > > variations
> > > > >> on flat metal tabs that were inserted down the sides of the deck.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It's clear what he's trying to do, but not so much what SPECIFIC
> tool
> > > he
> > > > >> was trying to replicate without at least knowing the make of the
> > > vehicle.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree with Matt. when I 1st read the post I was unsure of what
he
> > ment
> > > by
> > > > > DIN tool,
> > > > > since different vehicles use a different tool, plus the different
> > brands
> > > of
> > > > > head units
> > > > > use a different tool for there radios (Sony, pioneer, Panasonic
> etc).
> > > > > But after he said "coathanger", I was pretty sure it was a Ford or
a
> > > Mazda
> > > > > vehicle
> > > > > that he was refering to.
> > > >
> > > > I suspected Ford as well, when he mentioned the coat hanger, but as
> you
> > > > say, some Mazdas also use this sort of tool, and other designs CAN
be
> > > > removed with similar rod-type tools... so ASSuming anything doesn't
> get
> > > > us anywhere.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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[Captain Howdy[_3_]]

From what i see here, it's an ongoing problem for you and not just a moment.

In article >, "Lou"
> wrote:
>Dipshot moment versus asshole life? I think I'll stick with my lot.
>

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