Arny, what does this mean?

[Jenn]

You have stated that you are "essentually a degreed EE with significant
post-graduate work." Could you tell us what that means exactly, and
from where is your post-grad work?

[[email protected]]

On Jun 13, 9:21 pm, "Soundhaspriority" > wrote:
> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > You have stated that you are "essentually a degreed EE with significant
> > post-graduate work." Could you tell us what that means exactly, and
> > from where is your post-grad work?
>
> Jenn, you have become formidable. I am reminded of the time I was in an
> isolated town in Utah, near Capitol Reef National Monument, which featured a
> 4* restaraunt. While partaking of a delicious rattlesnake pate, I was
> propositioned by our waitress, who was looking for a partner for
> some"technical climbing". I noticed with suspicion that while chatting, she
> balanced 15 pounds of dirty dishes on one upraised palm, as if a feather.
> I turned to the retired software engineer who had introduced us, and
> asked, "Are you into this climbing thing?"
> He replied, "Nah. She's the man. I'm just a guy."
>
> Jenn, you are The Man.
>
> Bob Morein
> Dresher, PA
> (215) 646-4894

Arny has done postgrad. work... in the gentle art of making enemies.
The long-suffering Jenn is dead. Instead he has to deal with a
ruthless examiner up to all his dodges and slitherings,.
Ludovic Mirabel

[JBorg, Jr.[_2_]]

> elmir2m wrote:
>> Soundhaspriority wrote:
>>
>>
>> Bob Morein
>> Dresher, PA
>> (215) 646-4894
>
> Arny has done postgrad. work... in the gentle art of making enemies.
> The long-suffering Jenn is dead. Instead he has to deal with a
> ruthless examiner up to all his dodges and slitherings,.
> Ludovic Mirabel



I regret to say that Arny is currently under fire at Rao. No doubt
due to numerous falsehood he poured at the L. Greenhill abx test
thread. Now the truth about his erroneous fabrication should
really be out.

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in
message


> You have stated that you are "essentually a degreed EE
> with significant post-graduate work." Could you tell us
> what that means exactly, and from where is your post-grad
> work?

I did my post grad work at the same school that I did my undergraduate work.
How much post grad? 28 of 32 required credits. I was going to school on the
GI bill which means that my wife was working my way through college. She
became pregnant and had to quit work. That was the end of my college career.
I never made it back to finish up, partially because I found from my
co-worker's sad experience, that an advanced degree was a professional
hinderance in the type of engineering I did.

[John Atkinson]

On Jun 14, 6:32 am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>... an advanced degree was a professional
> hinderance in the type of engineering I did.

Yet you have also claimed to be a publisher, Mr. Krueger.
For example, in message >
you wrote:
>I'm a publisher with like 18,000 readers every month, and I
>despirately don't want my publications be taken as being THE
>authority. I wish that either or both of my web sites, www.pcabx.com
>or www.pcavtech.com had head-on competition. AFAIK, they don't.
>It's a little lonely out here on the leading edge. But I'm used to
>it! ;-)

How's that publishing business working out for you?

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

[Jenn]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in
> message
>
>
> > You have stated that you are "essentually a degreed EE
> > with significant post-graduate work." Could you tell us
> > what that means exactly, and from where is your post-grad
> > work?
>
> I did my post grad work at the same school that I did my undergraduate work.
> How much post grad? 28 of 32 required credits. I was going to school on the
> GI bill which means that my wife was working my way through college. She
> became pregnant and had to quit work. That was the end of my college career.
> I never made it back to finish up,

A common story from those days, sad to say. Gosh, so close; like one
class away from finishing. Now, I'm only asking this for professional
interest: were those four credits a thesis, or would it be a regular
class or two?

> partially because I found from my
> co-worker's sad experience, that an advanced degree was a professional
> hinderance in the type of engineering I did.

How's that?

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in
message

> In article >,
> "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
>> "Jenn" > wrote in
>> message
>>
>>
>>> You have stated that you are "essentually a degreed EE
>>> with significant post-graduate work." Could you tell us
>>> what that means exactly, and from where is your
>>> post-grad work?
>>
>> I did my post grad work at the same school that I did my
>> undergraduate work. How much post grad? 28 of 32
>> required credits. I was going to school on the GI bill
>> which means that my wife was working my way through
>> college. She became pregnant and had to quit work. That
>> was the end of my college career. I never made it back
>> to finish up,
>
> A common story from those days, sad to say. Gosh, so
> close; like one class away from finishing. Now, I'm only
> asking this for professional interest: were those four
> credits a thesis, or would it be a regular class or two?
>
>> partially because I found from my
>> co-worker's sad experience, that an advanced degree was
>> a professional hinderance in the type of engineering I
>> did.
>
> How's that?

Most managers are older than their employees. The average level of education
has been rising. Therefore it is likely that newer employees have better
educational credentical than their prospective employers. People are often
uncomfortable hiring or promoting people who have more education then they
have. I found this to be true in both engineering and Information
Technology. I've ended up managing PhDs because I was the only manager in
the department who was comfortable managing people with better credentials
than I. I have a friend who has a PhD in engineering who has found himself
to be virtually unemployable because of his excellent and well-known
credentials.

[George M. Middius]

Krazy Krooger lied:

> I've ended up managing PhDs because I was the only manager

I'm curious as to which companies knowingly make a "manager" out of an
employee who's certifiably insane. Care to elaborate, Arnii?





--

Krooscience: The antidote to education, experience, and excellence.

[George M. Middius]

Liarborg lied:

> I have a friend who has a PhD in engineering who has found himself
> to be virtually unemployable because of his excellent and well-known
> credentials.

Yes, that's believable. Do you know if Larry David ever met you or heard
of you, Arnii? I'm quite sure that you, or somebody very like you, was
the model for a certain character on "Seinfeld".




--

Krooscience: The antidote to education, experience, and excellence.

[Slev in London[_2_]]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
. ..

> Most managers are older than their employees. The average level of
> education has been rising. Therefore it is likely that newer employees
> have better educational credentical than their prospective employers.
> People are often uncomfortable hiring or promoting people who have more
> education then they have. I found this to be true in both engineering and
> Information Technology. I've ended up managing PhDs because I was the
> only manager in the department who was comfortable managing people with
> better credentials than I. I have a friend who has a PhD in engineering
> who has found himself to be virtually unemployable because of his
> excellent and well-known credentials.
>

You really do spew total ******** don't you!

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Jun 14, 1:00 pm, "Slev in London"
> wrote:
> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>
> . ..
>
> > Most managers are older than their employees. The average level of
> > education has been rising. Therefore it is likely that newer employees
> > have better educational credentical than their prospective employers.
> > People are often uncomfortable hiring or promoting people who have more
> > education then they have. I found this to be true in both engineering and
> > Information Technology. I've ended up managing PhDs because I was the
> > only manager in the department who was comfortable managing people with
> > better credentials than I. I have a friend who has a PhD in engineering
> > who has found himself to be virtually unemployable because of his
> > excellent and well-known credentials.
>
> You really do spew total ******** don't you!

Temper, temper.

Some people may think that Arny spews a lot of bullocks, but then
again, some others may not.

What is it that makes you say, "Arny spews a lot of bullocks"?

Back in the day, when I was insulting people, I might've posted the
same thing. As it is now, there is no way that I would insult someone
and write

"Arny spews a lot of bullocks!"

[Clyde Slick]

Soundhaspriority a scris:

>
> Jenn, you are The Man.
>
>

but Margaret is The Woman

[Clyde Slick]

Arny Krueger a scris:
..
> I never made it back to finish up, partially because I found from my
> co-worker's sad experience, that an advanced degree was a professional
> hinderance in the type of engineering I did.

Ashtrays!!!

[Clyde Slick]

George M. Middius a scris:

>
> Yes, that's believable. Do you know if Larry David ever met you or heard
> of you, Arnii? I'm quite sure that you, or somebody very like you, was
> the model for a certain character on "Seinfeld".
>

now, now George,

[Clyde Slick]

Slev in London a scris:
> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> . ..
>
> > Most managers are older than their employees. The average level of
> > education has been rising. Therefore it is likely that newer employees
> > have better educational credentical than their prospective employers.
> > People are often uncomfortable hiring or promoting people who have more
> > education then they have. I found this to be true in both engineering and
> > Information Technology. I've ended up managing PhDs because I was the
> > only manager in the department who was comfortable managing people with
> > better credentials than I. I have a friend who has a PhD in engineering
> > who has found himself to be virtually unemployable because of his
> > excellent and well-known credentials.
> >
>
> You really do spew total ******** don't you!

Is ******** British slang for turds?

[audioguy]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > writes:
> "Jenn" > wrote in
> message
>
>
>> You have stated that you are "essentually a degreed EE
>> with significant post-graduate work." Could you tell us
>> what that means exactly, and from where is your post-grad
>> work?
>
> I did my post grad work at the same school that I did my undergraduate work.
> How much post grad? 28 of 32 required credits. I was going to school on the
> GI bill which means that my wife was working my way through college. She
> became pregnant and had to quit work. That was the end of my college career.
> I never made it back to finish up, partially because I found from my
> co-worker's sad experience, that an advanced degree was a professional
> hinderance in the type of engineering I did.

OK, that explains the "significant post-graduate work". Now explain
the "essentually a degreed EE" part. That sounds like you never got an
undergrad degree either. Or are you one of those BSEET types?

[Slev in London[_2_]]

"Clyde Slick" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> Slev in London a scris:
>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>> . ..
>>
>> > Most managers are older than their employees. The average level of
>> > education has been rising. Therefore it is likely that newer employees
>> > have better educational credentical than their prospective employers.
>> > People are often uncomfortable hiring or promoting people who have more
>> > education then they have. I found this to be true in both engineering
>> > and
>> > Information Technology. I've ended up managing PhDs because I was the
>> > only manager in the department who was comfortable managing people with
>> > better credentials than I. I have a friend who has a PhD in
>> > engineering
>> > who has found himself to be virtually unemployable because of his
>> > excellent and well-known credentials.
>> >
>>
>> You really do spew total ******** don't you!
>
> Is ******** British slang for turds?
>
Actually male gender cow turds, or more commonly, BS.

[George M. Middius]

Robert said:

> > Liarborg lied:

> >> I have a friend who has a PhD in engineering who has found himself
> >> to be virtually unemployable because of his excellent and well-known
> >> credentials.

> > Yes, that's believable. Do you know if Larry David ever met you or heard
> > of you, Arnii? I'm quite sure that you, or somebody very like you, was
> > the model for a certain character on "Seinfeld".

> You couldn't mean Kramer? Kramer was funny.

Yes, up until the time he went crazy at a comedy club....

> And then there was "Pure Evil", who wasn't.
> So who do you have in mind?

I can't recall which character specifically. The show ended 10 years
ago, you know. It was a guy who was in a couple of episodes. He was a
delusional megalomaniac like Krooger.

On the show, they didn't discuss having the loon put down. That's one
thing that distinguishes him from the Krooglebeast.



--

Krooscience: The antidote to education, experience, and excellence.

[JBorg, Jr.[_2_]]

> Soundhaspriority wrote:
>> Clyde Slick wrote
>>> Soundhaspriority a scris:
>>>
>>>
>>> Jenn, you are The Man.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> but Margaret is The Woman
>>
> We don't really know, do we? :):):)


Well, we don't know if we really know or not. It's like Arny saying
that he is essentually[sic] a degreed EE with significant post grad
work at same school ending up managing PhDs. And by way of
saying that the abx switcher is a truly ingenious little device that
takes the fraud out of subjective testing. I would hazard a guess
that an impending truth should be out 'cause he's about to unload.



> Bob Morein
> Dresher, PA
> (215) 646-4894

[Jenn]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in
> message
>
> > In article >,
> > "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in
> >> message
> >> .
> >> net
> >>
> >>> You have stated that you are "essentually a degreed EE
> >>> with significant post-graduate work." Could you tell us
> >>> what that means exactly, and from where is your
> >>> post-grad work?
> >>
> >> I did my post grad work at the same school that I did my
> >> undergraduate work. How much post grad? 28 of 32
> >> required credits. I was going to school on the GI bill
> >> which means that my wife was working my way through
> >> college. She became pregnant and had to quit work. That
> >> was the end of my college career. I never made it back
> >> to finish up,
> >
> > A common story from those days, sad to say. Gosh, so
> > close; like one class away from finishing. Now, I'm only
> > asking this for professional interest: were those four
> > credits a thesis, or would it be a regular class or two?

??

> >
> >> partially because I found from my
> >> co-worker's sad experience, that an advanced degree was
> >> a professional hinderance in the type of engineering I
> >> did.
> >
> > How's that?
>
> Most managers are older than their employees. The average level of education
> has been rising. Therefore it is likely that newer employees have better
> educational credentical than their prospective employers. People are often
> uncomfortable hiring or promoting people who have more education then they
> have. I found this to be true in both engineering and Information
> Technology. I've ended up managing PhDs because I was the only manager in
> the department who was comfortable managing people with better credentials
> than I. I have a friend who has a PhD in engineering who has found himself
> to be virtually unemployable because of his excellent and well-known
> credentials.

Interesting. It didn't work out that way in higher ed. Though there
was a time in K-12 teaching when we were told not to get a Masters
degree before getting our first jobs, because some schools might not
hire you if you are more expensive.

[Arny Krueger]

<audioguy> wrote in message

> In article >,
> "Arny Krueger" > writes:
>> "Jenn" > wrote in
>> message
>>
>>
>>> You have stated that you are "essentually a degreed EE
>>> with significant post-graduate work." Could you tell us
>>> what that means exactly, and from where is your
>>> post-grad work?
>>
>> I did my post grad work at the same school that I did my
>> undergraduate work. How much post grad? 28 of 32
>> required credits. I was going to school on the GI bill
>> which means that my wife was working my way through
>> college. She became pregnant and had to quit work. That
>> was the end of my college career. I never made it back
>> to finish up, partially because I found from my
>> co-worker's sad experience, that an advanced degree was
>> a professional hinderance in the type of engineering I
>> did.
>
> OK, that explains the "significant post-graduate work".
> Now explain the "essentually a degreed EE" part. That
> sounds like you never got an undergrad degree either. Or
> are you one of those BSEET types?

The school I graduated from gives only degrees in engineering. I've got one
of those. The core courses cover mechanical engineering, computer science,
and electrical engineering. By picking non-core courses you gain a
"concentration" in one of those areas.

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in
message

> In article >,
> "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
>> "Jenn" > wrote in
>> message
>>
>>> In article
>>> >, "Arny
>>> Krueger" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Jenn" > wrote in
>>>> message
>>>> .
>>>> net
>>>>
>>>>> You have stated that you are "essentually a degreed EE
>>>>> with significant post-graduate work." Could you tell
>>>>> us what that means exactly, and from where is your
>>>>> post-grad work?
>>>>
>>>> I did my post grad work at the same school that I did
>>>> my undergraduate work. How much post grad? 28 of 32
>>>> required credits. I was going to school on the GI bill
>>>> which means that my wife was working my way through
>>>> college. She became pregnant and had to quit work. That
>>>> was the end of my college career. I never made it back
>>>> to finish up,
>>>
>>> A common story from those days, sad to say. Gosh, so
>>> close; like one class away from finishing. Now, I'm
>>> only asking this for professional interest: were those
>>> four credits a thesis, or would it be a regular class
>>> or two?
>
> ??
>
>>>
>>>> partially because I found from my
>>>> co-worker's sad experience, that an advanced degree was
>>>> a professional hinderance in the type of engineering I
>>>> did.
>>>
>>> How's that?
>>
>> Most managers are older than their employees. The
>> average level of education has been rising. Therefore it
>> is likely that newer employees have better educational
>> credentical than their prospective employers. People
>> are often uncomfortable hiring or promoting people who
>> have more education then they have. I found this to be
>> true in both engineering and Information Technology.
>> I've ended up managing PhDs because I was the only
>> manager in the department who was comfortable managing
>> people with better credentials than I. I have a friend
>> who has a PhD in engineering who has found himself to
>> be virtually unemployable because of his excellent and
>> well-known credentials.

> Interesting. It didn't work out that way in higher ed.

Depends which higher ed. Get a PhD in education, and try to get a job in an
average small school in an average small school system, teaching
kindergarten.

There's a reason for that, which has pretty well been explained.

> Though there was a time in K-12 teaching when we were
> told not to get a Masters degree before getting our first
> jobs, because some schools might not hire you if you are
> more expensive.

Master's Degrees are almost manditory in some school districts. So, the new
baseline is a MA. The problem comes in when someone is exceptional.

[Arny Krueger]

"Soundhaspriority" > wrote in message

> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> ...
>> <audioguy> wrote in message
>>
>>> In article
>>> >, "Arny
>>> Krueger" > writes:
>>>> "Jenn" > wrote in
>>>> message
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You have stated that you are "essentually a degreed EE
>>>>> with significant post-graduate work." Could you tell
>>>>> us what that means exactly, and from where is your
>>>>> post-grad work?
>>>>
>>>> I did my post grad work at the same school that I did
>>>> my undergraduate work. How much post grad? 28 of 32
>>>> required credits. I was going to school on the GI bill
>>>> which means that my wife was working my way through
>>>> college. She became pregnant and had to quit work. That
>>>> was the end of my college career. I never made it back
>>>> to finish up, partially because I found from my
>>>> co-worker's sad experience, that an advanced degree was
>>>> a professional hinderance in the type of engineering I
>>>> did.
>>>
>>> OK, that explains the "significant post-graduate work".
>>> Now explain the "essentually a degreed EE" part. That
>>> sounds like you never got an undergrad degree either. Or
>>> are you one of those BSEET types?
>>
>> The school I graduated from gives only degrees in
>> engineering. I've got one of those. The core courses
>> cover mechanical engineering, computer science, and
>> electrical engineering. By picking non-core courses you
>> gain a "concentration" in one of those areas.

> What is the exact title of the degree?

BSE

> Does it contain the word "associate" ?

No way.

[Sylvan Morein, DDS]

On 6/15/07 7:26, in article ,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

>>>>> I did my post grad work at the same school that I did
>>>>> my undergraduate work. How much post grad? 28 of 32
>>>>> required credits. I was going to school on the GI bill
>>>>> which means that my wife was working my way through
>>>>> college. She became pregnant and had to quit work. That
>>>>> was the end of my college career. I never made it back
>>>>> to finish up, partially because I found from my
>>>>> co-worker's sad experience, that an advanced degree was
>>>>> a professional hinderance in the type of engineering I
>>>>> did.
>>>>
>>>> OK, that explains the "significant post-graduate work".
>>>> Now explain the "essentually a degreed EE" part. That
>>>> sounds like you never got an undergrad degree either. Or
>>>> are you one of those BSEET types?
>>>
>>> The school I graduated from gives only degrees in
>>> engineering. I've got one of those. The core courses
>>> cover mechanical engineering, computer science, and
>>> electrical engineering. By picking non-core courses you
>>> gain a "concentration" in one of those areas.
>
>> What is the exact title of the degree?
>
> BSE
>
>> Does it contain the word "associate" ?

Mr. Krueger:

It is ironic that my son, Robert Morein, would attempt to challenge the
credentials of any college educated person here.

As you are aware, despite a lawsuit, my sick son Robert Morein not only
failed in his quest for a degree but also ****ed off every major college on
the eastern seaboard. Despite filing over two dozen admission requests,
they were all rejected by them - knowing full well that they too would
likely end up in a nasty lawsuit with my sick son.

Fortunately, this sad history is documented in Philadelphia newspapers,
embarrassing myself and my wife Jane.

Facts about my Son, Robert Morein

Dr. Sylvan Morein, DDS
--

Bob Morein History
--
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledgerenquirer/news/4853918.htm

> Doctoral student takes intellectual property case to Supreme Court
> By L. STUART DITZEN
> Philadelphia Inquirer
>
> PHILADELPHIA -Even the professors who dismissed him from a doctoral program
> at Drexel University agreed that Robert Morein was uncommonly smart.
>
> They apparently didn't realize that he was uncommonly stubborn too - so much
> so that he would mount a court fight all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court
> to challenge his dismissal.

The Supremes have already rejected this appeal, btw.
>
> "It's a personality trait I have - I'm a tenacious guy," said Morein, a
> pleasantly eccentric man regarded by friends as an inventive genius. "And we
> do come to a larger issue here."

An "inventive genius" that has never invented anything. And hardly
"pleasantly" eccentric.

> A five-year legal battle between this unusual ex-student and one of
> Philadelphia's premier educational institutions has gone largely unnoticed
> by the media and the public.

Because no one gives a **** about a 50 year old loser.
>
> But it has been the subject of much attention in academia.
>
> Drexel says it dismissed Morein in 1995 because he failed, after eight
> years, to complete a thesis required for a doctorate in electrical and
> computer engineering.

Not to mention the 12 years it took him to get thru high school!
BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

>
> Morein, 50, of Dresher, Pa., contends that he was dismissed only after his
> thesis adviser "appropriated" an innovative idea Morein had developed in a
> rarefied area of thought called "estimation theory" and arranged to have it
> patented.

A contention rejected by three courts. From a 50 YEAR OLD that has
done NOTHING PRODUCTIVE with his life.

>
> In February 2000, Philadelphia Common Pleas Court Judge Esther R. Sylvester
> ruled that Morein's adviser indeed had taken his idea.

An idea that was worth nothing, because it didn't work. Just like
Robert Morein, who has never worked a day in his life.

>
> Sylvester held that Morein had been unjustly dismissed and she ordered
> Drexel to reinstate him or refund his tuition.

Funnily enough, Drexel AGREED to reinstate Morein, who rejected the
offer because he knew he was and IS a failed loser. Spending daddy's
money to cover up his lack of productivity.
>
> That brought roars of protest from the lions of academia. There is a long
> tradition in America of noninterference by the courts in academic decisions.
>
> Backed by every major university in Pennsylvania and organizations
> representing thousands of others around the country, Drexel appealed to the
> state Superior Court.
>
> The appellate court, by a 2-1 vote, reversed Sylvester in June 2001 and
> restored the status quo. Morein was, once again, out at Drexel. And the
> time-honored axiom that courts ought to keep their noses out of academic
> affairs was reasserted.
>
> The state Supreme Court declined to review the case and, in an ordinary
> litigation, that would have been the end of it.
>
> But Morein, in a quixotic gesture that goes steeply against the odds, has
> asked the highest court in the land to give him a hearing.

Daddy throws more money down the crapper.

> His attorney, Faye Riva Cohen, said the Supreme Court appeal is important
> even if it fails because it raises the issue of whether a university has a
> right to lay claim to a student's ideas - or intellectual property - without
> compensation.
>
> "Any time you are in a Ph.D. program, you are a serf, you are a slave," said
> Cohen. Morein "is concerned not only for himself. He feels that what
> happened to him is pretty common."

It's called HIGHER EDUCATION, honey. The students aren't in charge,
the UNIVERSITY and PROFESSORS are.


> Drexel's attorney, Neil J. Hamburg, called Morein's appeal - and his claim
> that his idea was stolen - "preposterous."
>
> "I will eat my shoe if the Supreme Court hears this case," declared Hamburg.
> "We're not even going to file a response. He is a brilliant guy, but his
> intelligence should be used for the advancement of society rather than
> pursuing self-destructive litigation."

No **** sherlock.

> The litigation began in 1997, when Morein sued Drexel claiming that a
> committee of professors had dumped him after he accused his faculty adviser,
> Paul Kalata, of appropriating his idea.
>
> His concept was considered to have potential value for businesses in
> minutely measuring the internal functions of machines, industrial processes
> and electronic systems.
>
> The field of "estimation theory" is one in which scientists attempt to
> calculate what they cannot plainly observe, such as the inside workings of a
> nuclear plant or a computer.

My estimation theory? There is NO brain at work inside the head of
Robert Morein, only sawdust.

>
> Prior to Morein's dismissal, Drexel looked into his complaint against Kalata
> and concluded that the associate professor had done nothing wrong. Kalata,
> through a university lawyer, declined to comment.
>
> At a nonjury trial before Sylvester in 1999, Morein testified that Kalata in
> 1990 had posed a technical problem for him to study for his thesis. It
> related to estimation theory.
>
> Kalata, who did not appear at the trial, said in a 1998 deposition that a
> Cherry Hill company for which he was a paid consultant, K-Tron
> International, had asked him to develop an alternate estimation method for
> it. The company manufactures bulk material feeders and conveyors used in
> industrial processes.
>
> Morein testified that, after much study, he experienced "a flash of
> inspiration" and came up with a novel mathematical concept to address the
> problem Kalata had presented.
>
> Without his knowledge, Morein said, Kalata shared the idea with K-Tron.
>
> K-Tron then applied for a patent, listing Kalata and Morein as co-inventors.
>
> Morein said he agreed "under duress" to the arrangement, but felt "locked
> into a highly disadvantageous situation." As a result, he testified, he
> became alienated from Kalata.
>
> As events unfolded, Kalata signed over his interest in the patent to K-Tron.
> The company never capitalized on the technology and eventually allowed the
> patent to lapse. No one made any money from it.

Because it was bogus. Even Kalata was mortified that he was a victim
of this SCAMSTER, Robert Morein.

> In 1991, Morein went to the head of Drexel's electrical engineering
> department, accused Kalata of appropriating his intellectual property, and
> asked for a new faculty adviser.

The staff at Drexel laughed wildly at the ignorance of Robert Morein.

> He didn't get one. Instead, a committee of four professors, including
> Kalata, was formed to oversee Morein's thesis work.
>
> Four years later, the committee dismissed him, saying he had failed to
> complete his thesis.

So Morein ****s up his first couple years, gets new faculty advisers
(a TEAM), and then ****s up again! Brilliant!

>
> Morein claimed that the committee intentionally had undermined him.

Morein makes LOTS of claims that are nonsense. One look thru the
usenet proves it.

>
> Judge Sylvester agreed. In her ruling, Sylvester wrote: "It is this court's
> opinion that the defendants were motivated by bad faith and ill will."

So much for political machine judges.
>
> The U.S. Supreme Court receives 7,000 appeals a year and agrees to hear only
> about 100 of them.
>
> Hamburg, Drexel's attorney, is betting the high court will reject Morein's
> appeal out of hand because its focal point - concerning a student's right to
> intellectual property - was not central to the litigation in the
> Pennsylvania courts.

> Morein said he understands it's a long shot, but he feels he must pursue it.

Just like all the failed "causes" Morein pursues. Heck, he's been
chasing another "Brian McCarty" for years and yet has ZERO impact on
anything.

Failure. Look it up in Websters. You'll see a picture of Robert
Morein. The poster boy for SCAMMING LOSERS.

>
> "I had to seek closure," he said.
>
> Without a doctorate, he said, he has been unable to pursue a career he had
> hoped would lead him into research on artificial intelligence.

Who better to tell us about "artificial intelligence".
BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

>
> As it is, Morein lives at home with his father and makes a modest income
> from stock investments. He has written a film script that he is trying to
> make into a movie. And in the basement of his father's home he is working on
> an invention, an industrial pump so powerful it could cut steel with a
> bulletlike stream of water.


FAILED STUDENT
FAILED MOVIE MAKER
FAILED SCREENWRITER
FAILED INVESTOR
FAILED DRIVER
FAILED SON
FAILED PARENTS
FAILED INVENTOR
FAILED PLAINTIFF
FAILED HOMOSEXUAL
FAILED HUMAN
FAILED
FAILED

> But none of it is what he had imagined for himself.
>
> "I don't really have a replacement career," Morein said. "It's a very
> gnawing thing.

[Arny Krueger]

"Soundhaspriority" > wrote in message

> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> "Soundhaspriority" > wrote in message
>>
>>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> <audioguy> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> In article
>>>>> >, "Arny
>>>>> Krueger" > writes:
>>>>>> "Jenn" > wrote in
>>>>>> message
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have stated that you are "essentually a degreed
>>>>>>> EE with significant post-graduate work." Could you
>>>>>>> tell us what that means exactly, and from where is
>>>>>>> your post-grad work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did my post grad work at the same school that I did
>>>>>> my undergraduate work. How much post grad? 28 of 32
>>>>>> required credits. I was going to school on the GI
>>>>>> bill which means that my wife was working my way
>>>>>> through college. She became pregnant and had to quit
>>>>>> work. That was the end of my college career. I never
>>>>>> made it back to finish up, partially because I found
>>>>>> from my co-worker's sad experience, that an advanced
>>>>>> degree was a professional hinderance in the type of
>>>>>> engineering I did.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, that explains the "significant post-graduate
>>>>> work". Now explain the "essentually a degreed EE"
>>>>> part. That sounds like you never got an undergrad
>>>>> degree either. Or are you one of those BSEET types?
>>>>
>>>> The school I graduated from gives only degrees in
>>>> engineering. I've got one of those. The core courses
>>>> cover mechanical engineering, computer science, and
>>>> electrical engineering. By picking non-core courses
>>>> you gain a "concentration" in one of those areas.
>>
>>> What is the exact title of the degree?
>>
>> BSE
>>
>>> Does it contain the word "associate" ?
>>
>> No way.
>>
> What is the name of the granting institution?

Oakland University

[Arny Krueger]

"Sylvan Morein, DDS" > wrote in message

> On 6/15/07 7:26, in article
> , "Arny
> Krueger" > wrote:
>
>>>>>> I did my post grad work at the same school that I did
>>>>>> my undergraduate work. How much post grad? 28 of 32
>>>>>> required credits. I was going to school on the GI
>>>>>> bill which means that my wife was working my way
>>>>>> through college. She became pregnant and had to quit
>>>>>> work. That was the end of my college career. I never
>>>>>> made it back to finish up, partially because I found
>>>>>> from my co-worker's sad experience, that an advanced
>>>>>> degree was a professional hinderance in the type of
>>>>>> engineering I did.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, that explains the "significant post-graduate
>>>>> work". Now explain the "essentually a degreed EE"
>>>>> part. That sounds like you never got an undergrad
>>>>> degree either. Or are you one of those BSEET types?
>>>>
>>>> The school I graduated from gives only degrees in
>>>> engineering. I've got one of those. The core courses
>>>> cover mechanical engineering, computer science, and
>>>> electrical engineering. By picking non-core courses
>>>> you gain a "concentration" in one of those areas.
>>
>>> What is the exact title of the degree?
>>
>> BSE
>>
>>> Does it contain the word "associate" ?
>
> Mr. Krueger:
>
> It is ironic that my son, Robert Morein, would attempt to
> challenge the credentials of any college educated person
> here.

Agreed. My take is that he's over-compensating.

[George M. Middius]

AutoProjectionBorg dallies with a malevolent sockpuppet.

> Agreed. My take is that he's over-compensating.

As usual, you're over-defecating. Surprise! (Not!)



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[Jenn]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in
> message
>
> > In article >,
> > "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in
> >> message
> >> .
> >> com
> >>> In article
> >>> >, "Arny
> >>> Krueger" > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "Jenn" > wrote in
> >>>> message
> >>>>
> >>>> y.
> >>>> net
> >>>>
> >>>>> You have stated that you are "essentually a degreed EE
> >>>>> with significant post-graduate work." Could you tell
> >>>>> us what that means exactly, and from where is your
> >>>>> post-grad work?
> >>>>
> >>>> I did my post grad work at the same school that I did
> >>>> my undergraduate work. How much post grad? 28 of 32
> >>>> required credits. I was going to school on the GI bill
> >>>> which means that my wife was working my way through
> >>>> college. She became pregnant and had to quit work. That
> >>>> was the end of my college career. I never made it back
> >>>> to finish up,
> >>>
> >>> A common story from those days, sad to say. Gosh, so
> >>> close; like one class away from finishing. Now, I'm
> >>> only asking this for professional interest: were those
> >>> four credits a thesis, or would it be a regular class
> >>> or two?
> >
> > ??
> >
> >>>
> >>>> partially because I found from my
> >>>> co-worker's sad experience, that an advanced degree was
> >>>> a professional hinderance in the type of engineering I
> >>>> did.
> >>>
> >>> How's that?
> >>
> >> Most managers are older than their employees. The
> >> average level of education has been rising. Therefore it
> >> is likely that newer employees have better educational
> >> credentical than their prospective employers. People
> >> are often uncomfortable hiring or promoting people who
> >> have more education then they have. I found this to be
> >> true in both engineering and Information Technology.
> >> I've ended up managing PhDs because I was the only
> >> manager in the department who was comfortable managing
> >> people with better credentials than I. I have a friend
> >> who has a PhD in engineering who has found himself to
> >> be virtually unemployable because of his excellent and
> >> well-known credentials.
>
> > Interesting. It didn't work out that way in higher ed.
>
> Depends which higher ed. Get a PhD in education, and try to get a job in an
> average small school in an average small school system, teaching
> kindergarten.

Kindergarten generally isn't considered higher ed! ;-)

>
> There's a reason for that, which has pretty well been explained.
>
> > Though there was a time in K-12 teaching when we were
> > told not to get a Masters degree before getting our first
> > jobs, because some schools might not hire you if you are
> > more expensive.
>
> Master's Degrees are almost manditory in some school districts.

True, but rare, and not in the past about which I write. And, teacher
shortages are really starting to come to the forefront nationwide.

> So, the new
> baseline is a MA. The problem comes in when someone is exceptional.

And doctorates are the baseline in higher ed. In the performing arts,
this really became reality about 8 years ago. In 1995, I left teaching
for 4 years to deal with sick family members and my own medical issues.
At that time, it wasn't uncommon for conductors (including myself) with
"just" Masters degrees to get hired at 4-year schools. Now, that's
almost impossible. Just about every job has a doctorate as basic
requirements. Leonard Bernstein coudln't get hired at a University of
California or State University now.

[George M. Middius]

Robert said:

> BTW, I don't think you
> particularly liked Bwian when he challenged you as "audioaesthetic."

You didn't tell us why you believe "audioaesthetic" is one of Bwian's
aliases. Lessons are more likely to be learned if a complete chain of
reasoning or evidence is presented along with the conclusion.




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[MiNe 109]

In article

et>,
Jenn > wrote:

> And doctorates are the baseline in higher ed. In the performing arts,
> this really became reality about 8 years ago. In 1995, I left teaching
> for 4 years to deal with sick family members and my own medical issues.
> At that time, it wasn't uncommon for conductors (including myself) with
> "just" Masters degrees to get hired at 4-year schools. Now, that's
> almost impossible. Just about every job has a doctorate as basic
> requirements. Leonard Bernstein coudln't get hired at a University of
> California or State University now.

I can second this! There are so many candidates for university jobs that
the degree bar can be set high. Unfortunately, this can make music an
academic pyramid scheme that undervalues real-world experience and
requirements. On the other hand, there will be fewer music profs like
the ones who fell into their jobs forty years ago when the field was
wide open.

Stephen

[Jenn]

In article >,
MiNe 109 > wrote:

> In article
>
> et>,
> Jenn > wrote:
>
> > And doctorates are the baseline in higher ed. In the performing arts,
> > this really became reality about 8 years ago. In 1995, I left teaching
> > for 4 years to deal with sick family members and my own medical issues.
> > At that time, it wasn't uncommon for conductors (including myself) with
> > "just" Masters degrees to get hired at 4-year schools. Now, that's
> > almost impossible. Just about every job has a doctorate as basic
> > requirements. Leonard Bernstein coudln't get hired at a University of
> > California or State University now.
>
> I can second this! There are so many candidates for university jobs that
> the degree bar can be set high. Unfortunately, this can make music an
> academic pyramid scheme that undervalues real-world experience and
> requirements. On the other hand, there will be fewer music profs like
> the ones who fell into their jobs forty years ago when the field was
> wide open.
>
> Stephen

Half of the faculty at the UT School of Music couldn't teach in the CA
higher ed system, above the community college level! Including my
wonderful friend Jerry Judkin, one of the best conductors in the country.

My favorite story about such things involves the horn and percussion
teacher at Cal State Fullerton. He was hired to teach those studios
many years ago, but can't get tenured because of no doctorate. So every
three years, they have to advertise his job, even though he has been
there for well over 20 years and does great work. They put on the job
announcement "Must be a professional quality performer on both French
Horn and Orchestral Percussion". lol There IS no one else like that,
so he and the department are safe.

One day I went to a concert by the LA Chamber Orchestra in the afternoon
and the LA Phil in the evening. Todd was playing tympani in the LACO
and Wagner Tuba in the LAPO. What a guy!

[George M. Middius]

MiNe 109 said:

> On the other hand, there will be fewer music profs like
> the ones who fell into their jobs forty years ago when the field was
> wide open.

Are you saying something about certain music professors whom you
carefully omitted naming?




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[George M. Middius]

Jenn said:

> One day I went to a concert by the LA Chamber Orchestra in the afternoon
> and the LA Phil in the evening. Todd was playing tympani in the LACO
> and Wagner Tuba in the LAPO. What a guy!

Does this story support or undermine the Krooborg's klaims of being
ejikaided?




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[MiNe 109]

In article >,
George M. Middius <cmndr _ george @ comcast . net> wrote:

> MiNe 109 said:
>
> > On the other hand, there will be fewer music profs like
> > the ones who fell into their jobs forty years ago when the field was
> > wide open.
>
> Are you saying something about certain music professors whom you
> carefully omitted naming?

I'd guess every big state school music department has had at least one
of these. It's probably worse in other fields.

Stephen

[MiNe 109]

In article

et>,
Jenn > wrote:

> In article >,
> MiNe 109 > wrote:
>
> > In article
> >
> > et>,
> > Jenn > wrote:
> >
> > > And doctorates are the baseline in higher ed. In the performing arts,
> > > this really became reality about 8 years ago. In 1995, I left teaching
> > > for 4 years to deal with sick family members and my own medical issues.
> > > At that time, it wasn't uncommon for conductors (including myself) with
> > > "just" Masters degrees to get hired at 4-year schools. Now, that's
> > > almost impossible. Just about every job has a doctorate as basic
> > > requirements. Leonard Bernstein coudln't get hired at a University of
> > > California or State University now.
> >
> > I can second this! There are so many candidates for university jobs that
> > the degree bar can be set high. Unfortunately, this can make music an
> > academic pyramid scheme that undervalues real-world experience and
> > requirements. On the other hand, there will be fewer music profs like
> > the ones who fell into their jobs forty years ago when the field was
> > wide open.
>
> Half of the faculty at the UT School of Music couldn't teach in the CA
> higher ed system, above the community college level! Including my
> wonderful friend Jerry Judkin, one of the best conductors in the country.

Yes! UT has special positions for the string quartet in residence and
active opera singers for whom academic credentials are, umm, academic.

> My favorite story about such things involves the horn and percussion
> teacher at Cal State Fullerton. He was hired to teach those studios
> many years ago, but can't get tenured because of no doctorate. So every
> three years, they have to advertise his job, even though he has been
> there for well over 20 years and does great work. They put on the job
> announcement "Must be a professional quality performer on both French
> Horn and Orchestral Percussion". lol There IS no one else like that,
> so he and the department are safe.
>
> One day I went to a concert by the LA Chamber Orchestra in the afternoon
> and the LA Phil in the evening. Todd was playing tympani in the LACO
> and Wagner Tuba in the LAPO. What a guy!

Great story! My undergrad school had the reverse problem when someone
who taught music history and viola left and the department had to find
another who could do both well enough.

Stephen

[George M. Middius]

MiNe 109 said:

> > > On the other hand, there will be fewer music profs like
> > > the ones who fell into their jobs forty years ago when the field was
> > > wide open.

> > Are you saying something about certain music professors whom you
> > carefully omitted naming?

> I'd guess every big state school music department has had at least one
> of these. It's probably worse in other fields.

Never happened in engineering, though.....




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[MiNe 109]

In article >,
George M. Middius <cmndr _ george @ comcast . net> wrote:

> MiNe 109 said:
>
> > > > On the other hand, there will be fewer music profs like
> > > > the ones who fell into their jobs forty years ago when the field was
> > > > wide open.
>
> > > Are you saying something about certain music professors whom you
> > > carefully omitted naming?
>
> > I'd guess every big state school music department has had at least one
> > of these. It's probably worse in other fields.
>
> Never happened in engineering, though.....

Good thing! or we wouldn't be so close to perfection in today's products.

Stephen

[George M. Middius]

MiNe 109 said:

> > > I'd guess every big state school music department has had at least one
> > > of these. It's probably worse in other fields.

> > Never happened in engineering, though.....

> Good thing! or we wouldn't be so close to perfection in today's products.

Speaking of perfection, how about those Dodge Omni ashtrays?




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[MiNe 109]

In article >,
George M. Middius <cmndr _ george @ comcast . net> wrote:

> MiNe 109 said:
>
> > > > I'd guess every big state school music department has had at least one
> > > > of these. It's probably worse in other fields.
>
> > > Never happened in engineering, though.....
>
> > Good thing! or we wouldn't be so close to perfection in today's products.
>
> Speaking of perfection, how about those Dodge Omni ashtrays?

The best part of the car.

Stephen

[Clyde Slick]

On Jun 15, 5:25 pm, MiNe 109 > wrote:
> In article >,
> George M. Middius <cmndr _ george @ comcast . net> wrote:


>
> > Speaking of perfection, how about those Dodge Omni ashtrays?
>
> The best part of the car.
>

Arni's game was on back then.

[Howard Ferstler]

John Atkinson wrote:

> On Jun 14, 6:32 am, "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
>>... an advanced degree was a professional
>>hinderance in the type of engineering I did.
>
>
> Yet you have also claimed to be a publisher, Mr. Krueger.
> For example, in message >
> you wrote:
>
>>I'm a publisher with like 18,000 readers every month, and I
>>despirately don't want my publications be taken as being THE
>>authority. I wish that either or both of my web sites, www.pcabx.com
>>or www.pcavtech.com had head-on competition. AFAIK, they don't.
>>It's a little lonely out here on the leading edge. But I'm used to
>>it! ;-)
>
>
> How's that publishing business working out for you?

Look, John, we all know that you two guys do not like each
other. Yes, that is big news.

OK, with that in mind why not just ignore each other when it
comes to insult swapping and "I said, no, you said," issues
or claims about what you have done during your careers, or
your expertise in audio or elsewhere, and just do
straightforward debating about audio issues and then end it
there? I mean, what you two do now in the way of
backstabbing each other is often very silly.

Give it a rest, you two.

Howard Ferstler

[George M. Middius]

Brother Horace, the lowliest monk in the land of the blind, opens one
eye a hair's breadth.

> > How's that publishing business working out for you?

> Look, John, we all know that you two guys do not like each
> other. Yes, that is big news.

Harold, you've missed the big picture again. Nothing new there, of
course -- you've been garbling reality ever since you learned to read.

> OK, with that in mind why not just ignore each other when it
> comes to insult swapping and "I said, no, you said," issues
> yada yada yada blah blah blah yakkety yakkety yak

Arnii doesn't need you to fight his battles for him, Clerkie. In fact,
if you think poor Turdborg is so feeble that he would benefit from your
feeble, frothy fulminations, then the battle against the forces of the
E.H.E.E. is surely lost.





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[Howard Ferstler]

George M. Middius wrote:

> Arnii doesn't need you to fight his battles for him, Clerkie.

I am not fighting his battles for him, or for John Atkinson,
either. I am just saying that this insult-swapping series we
have been getting from them for months (years?) is getting
old, and is anything but useful. They are just wasting their
time with the idiotic give and take we see from them all the
time.

As for you, well, the claptrap, inanities, and potty talk we
have been getting from you for years (decades?) makes the
innuendo often coming from those two look downright
scholarly. They should stick to helpful basic-info audio
posts, and you, well, you, should just grow up.

Howard Ferstler

[George M. Middius]

Brother Horace uncloaks his magic wand of forgetfulness.

> > Arnii doesn't need you to fight his battles for him, Clerkie.

> I am not fighting his battles for him

Of course you are, you pathetic little weasel. Have you started lying to
yourself now? Krooger already does that, you know.





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[Clyde Slick]

Howard Ferstler a scris:
> I am just saying that this insult-swapping series we
> have been getting from them for months (years?) is getting
> old,

shut up, you tweako freako

[Howard Ferstler]

Clyde Slick wrote:

> Howard Ferstler a scris:
>
>>I am just saying that this insult-swapping series we
>>have been getting from them for months (years?) is getting
>>old,

> shut up, you tweako freako

The truth hurts, doesn't it pal. It really bugs you and some
of these other jerks when an outsider intrudes into your
little, self-contained world of audio misfits and goofballs.
You, who rant back and forth at each other on a daily (or
hourly, or even minute-by-minute) basis and do so most of
the time without dealing with audio-related topics at all.
Do you guys ever stand back and observe just how idiotic you
are behaving?

Don't worry. You'll soon get a break. I will happily be
pulling back in a short while, and will do so knowing that I
tweaked some tails and stirred the nest up just enough to
give you pinheads something different to do for a while.
After that, you can get back to doing what most of you do
best: lobbing insults back and forth at each other.

Howard Ferstler

[George M. Middius]

Brother Horace the Incomparably Desperate tries to go down swinging.

> The truth hurts, doesn't it pal. It really bugs you and some
> of these other jerks when an outsider intrudes into your
> little, self-contained world of audio misfits and goofballs.

You're getting truly pathetic, Clerkie. You should hang up your keyboard
and toddle off into the sunset already.

BTW, you will note, note, that Krooger did not extend even the tiniest
show of gratitude for your attempt to rescue him from the voracious Lord
Atkinson. Take heed, Harold. Your days are numbered.




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[Howard Ferstler]

George M. Middius wrote:

> Take heed, Harold. Your days are numbered.

Everyone's days are numbered, Middius.

In any case, I have projects lined up for tomorrow and for
some time after that, so you people will have to entertain
yourselves here for a while. Maybe I will come back to take
a look in a few months and it will be interesting to see if
the threads I souped up will still be roaring along, with
you and people like you continuing to spit inanities back
and forth.

It is funny how I can post a few dozen comments and suddenly
members of this group actually behave as if they were alive
for a few days.

Howard Ferstler

[Clyde Slick]

Howard Ferstler a scris:
> Clyde Slick wrote:
>
> > Howard Ferstler a scris:
> >
> >>I am just saying that this insult-swapping series we
> >>have been getting from them for months (years?) is getting
> >>old,
>
> > shut up, you tweako freako
>
> pal. jerks misfits goofballs. tweaked pinheads

[Harry Lavo]

"Howard Ferstler" > wrote in message
news:4675c197$1@kcnews01...
> George M. Middius wrote:
>
>> Take heed, Harold. Your days are numbered.
>
> Everyone's days are numbered, Middius.
>
> In any case, I have projects lined up for tomorrow and for some time after
> that, so you people will have to entertain yourselves here for a while.
> Maybe I will come back to take a look in a few months and it will be
> interesting to see if the threads I souped up will still be roaring along,
> with you and people like you continuing to spit inanities back and forth.
>
> It is funny how I can post a few dozen comments and suddenly members of
> this group actually behave as if they were alive for a few days.
>
> Howard Ferstler

Another God complex heard from.

[George M. Middius]

Harry Lavo said to Clerkenstein:

> > It is funny how I can post a few dozen comments and suddenly members of
> > this group actually behave as if they were alive for a few days.

> Another God complex heard from.

Are you suggesting that Ferstler is *not* the center of all thought?
That's heresy!




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