Adobe Audition and mp3 encoding

[alice]

I'm trying to turn some wav files into mp3 files, and I notice under
the exporting - mp - options, by default it is set at 96 kbps, 22050
hz, stereo (7.4:1). This is also the highest kbps on the drop down
list. I know it should be 128kbps, but what about the other settings?
I need to know since I will need to change these manually each time.
Or is there a way to get it to always save it at 128 without changing
it manually? Another program maybe, a setting somewhere that got
changed, something I'm doing wrong?

[[email protected]]

On Apr 2, 2:54 pm, "alice" > wrote:
> I'm trying to turn some wav files into mp3 files, and I notice under
> the exporting - mp - options, by default it is set at 96 kbps, 22050
> hz, stereo (7.4:1). This is also the highest kbps on the drop down
> list. I know it should be 128kbps, but what about the other settings?
> I need to know since I will need to change these manually each time.
> Or is there a way to get it to always save it at 128 without changing
> it manually? Another program maybe, a setting somewhere that got
> changed, something I'm doing wrong?

If your source file is lower than 44100 Hz, the mp3 save as dialog box
will limit your export options. Try upsampling if that's the case.
Once I've chosen an mp3 setting it remembers the next time I save an
mp3, so I only need to edit the settings if I want something different.

[Laurence Payne]

On 2 Apr 2007 11:54:50 -0700, "alice" > wrote:

>I'm trying to turn some wav files into mp3 files, and I notice under
>the exporting - mp - options, by default it is set at 96 kbps, 22050
>hz, stereo (7.4:1). This is also the highest kbps on the drop down
>list. I know it should be 128kbps, but what about the other settings?
>I need to know since I will need to change these manually each time.
>Or is there a way to get it to always save it at 128 without changing
>it manually? Another program maybe, a setting somewhere that got
>changed, something I'm doing wrong?

That may be the highest kbps they think worth offering at 22.050 KHz.
What if you choose 44.1Khz?

[Carey Carlan]

"alice" > wrote in news:1175540090.826894.249220
@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:

> I'm trying to turn some wav files into mp3 files, and I notice under
> the exporting - mp - options, by default it is set at 96 kbps, 22050
> hz, stereo (7.4:1). This is also the highest kbps on the drop down
> list. I know it should be 128kbps, but what about the other settings?
> I need to know since I will need to change these manually each time.
> Or is there a way to get it to always save it at 128 without changing
> it manually? Another program maybe, a setting somewhere that got
> changed, something I'm doing wrong?

22050 kHz is 44.1K sampling rate. 22050 kHz is the max frequency
reproducible at that sampling rate.

[Laurence Payne]

On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 23:08:20 GMT, Carey Carlan >
wrote:

>> I'm trying to turn some wav files into mp3 files, and I notice under
>> the exporting - mp - options, by default it is set at 96 kbps, 22050
>> hz, stereo (7.4:1). This is also the highest kbps on the drop down
>> list. I know it should be 128kbps, but what about the other settings?
>> I need to know since I will need to change these manually each time.
>> Or is there a way to get it to always save it at 128 without changing
>> it manually? Another program maybe, a setting somewhere that got
>> changed, something I'm doing wrong?
>
>22050 kHz is 44.1K sampling rate. 22050 kHz is the max frequency
>reproducible at that sampling rate.

And, as you well know, you set the sampling rate not the maximum
reproducible frequency. D'oh!

[Carey Carlan]

Laurence Payne <lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom> wrote in
:

> On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 23:08:20 GMT, Carey Carlan >
> wrote:
>
>>> I'm trying to turn some wav files into mp3 files, and I notice under
>>> the exporting - mp - options, by default it is set at 96 kbps, 22050
>>> hz, stereo (7.4:1). This is also the highest kbps on the drop down
>>> list. I know it should be 128kbps, but what about the other settings?
>>> I need to know since I will need to change these manually each time.
>>> Or is there a way to get it to always save it at 128 without changing
>>> it manually? Another program maybe, a setting somewhere that got
>>> changed, something I'm doing wrong?
>>
>>22050 kHz is 44.1K sampling rate. 22050 kHz is the max frequency
>>reproducible at that sampling rate.
>
> And, as you well know, you set the sampling rate not the maximum
> reproducible frequency. D'oh!

And it is 22050 Hz (not kHz) of course.

[Laurence Payne]

On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 01:09:20 GMT, Carey Carlan >
wrote:

>>>> I'm trying to turn some wav files into mp3 files, and I notice under
>>>> the exporting - mp - options, by default it is set at 96 kbps, 22050
>>>> hz, stereo (7.4:1). This is also the highest kbps on the drop down
>>>> list. I know it should be 128kbps, but what about the other settings?
>>>> I need to know since I will need to change these manually each time.
>>>> Or is there a way to get it to always save it at 128 without changing
>>>> it manually? Another program maybe, a setting somewhere that got
>>>> changed, something I'm doing wrong?
>>>
>>>22050 kHz is 44.1K sampling rate. 22050 kHz is the max frequency
>>>reproducible at that sampling rate.
>>
>> And, as you well know, you set the sampling rate not the maximum
>> reproducible frequency. D'oh!
>
>And it is 22050 Hz (not kHz) of course.

Sure. I freely admit a misprint. What about your misinformation? :-)

[alice]

On Apr 3, 2:49 am, Laurence Payne <lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom>
wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 01:09:20 GMT, Carey Carlan >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >>>> I'm trying to turn some wav files into mp3 files, and I notice under
> >>>> the exporting - mp - options, by default it is set at 96 kbps, 22050
> >>>> hz, stereo (7.4:1). This is also the highest kbps on the drop down
> >>>> list. I know it should be 128kbps, but what about the other settings?
> >>>> I need to know since I will need to change these manually each time.
> >>>> Or is there a way to get it to always save it at 128 without changing
> >>>> it manually? Another program maybe, a setting somewhere that got
> >>>> changed, something I'm doing wrong?
>
> >>>22050 kHz is 44.1K sampling rate. 22050 kHz is the max frequency
> >>>reproducible at that sampling rate.
>
> >> And, as you well know, you set the sampling rate not the maximum
> >> reproducible frequency. D'oh!
>
> >And it is 22050 Hz (not kHz) of course.
>
> Sure. I freely admit a misprint. What about your misinformation? :-)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

When I change the settings manually to 44100, 128kbps, it will save
it, but it will not play back on any player now (Winamp, Windows Media
Player, etc). This is now true of anything I'm recording now. Is there
something in my settings somewhere that is making it record in such a
way that it thinks that 96kpbs is the best quality I can export it as?
This used to not be true, and I haven't changed any settings myself,
so I don't know what to look for to change it back to whatever it was
that was in the first place.

[Laurence Payne]

On 5 Apr 2007 12:04:18 -0700, "alice" > wrote:

>When I change the settings manually to 44100, 128kbps, it will save
>it, but it will not play back on any player now (Winamp, Windows Media
>Player, etc). This is now true of anything I'm recording now. Is there
>something in my settings somewhere that is making it record in such a
>way that it thinks that 96kpbs is the best quality I can export it as?
>This used to not be true, and I haven't changed any settings myself,
>so I don't know what to look for to change it back to whatever it was
>that was in the first place.

What sample rate WAS the original wav file?

[alice]

On Apr 5, 12:10 pm, Laurence Payne <lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom>
wrote:
> On 5 Apr 2007 12:04:18 -0700, "alice" > wrote:
>
> >When I change the settings manually to 44100, 128kbps, it will save
> >it, but it will not play back on any player now (Winamp, Windows Media
> >Player, etc). This is now true of anything I'm recording now. Is there
> >something in my settings somewhere that is making it record in such a
> >way that it thinks that 96kpbs is the best quality I can export it as?
> >This used to not be true, and I haven't changed any settings myself,
> >so I don't know what to look for to change it back to whatever it was
> >that was in the first place.
>
> What sample rate WAS the original wav file?

I can't seem to figure out now where to see or change that setting.

[Laurence Payne]

On 5 Apr 2007 12:44:14 -0700, "alice" > wrote:

>> What sample rate WAS the original wav file?
>
>I can't seem to figure out now where to see or change that setting.

You're in Audition? R-click the waveform display and look at File
Info.

[Carey Carlan]

"alice" > wrote in
ups.com:

> When I change the settings manually to 44100, 128kbps, it will save
> it, but it will not play back on any player now (Winamp, Windows Media
> Player, etc). This is now true of anything I'm recording now. Is there
> something in my settings somewhere that is making it record in such a
> way that it thinks that 96kpbs is the best quality I can export it as?
> This used to not be true, and I haven't changed any settings myself,
> so I don't know what to look for to change it back to whatever it was
> that was in the first place.

Post the file on the intenet somewhere and let us look at it.

[Peter Larsen]

alice wrote:

> I'm trying to turn some wav files into mp3 files, and I notice under
> the exporting - mp - options, by default it is set at 96 kbps, 22050
> hz, stereo (7.4:1).

That is the bandwidth spec, not the sample rate spec.

> This is also the highest kbps on the drop down
> list.

Deselect mp3-pro.

> I know it should be 128kbps,

VBS 100 percent, allow MS-stereo encoding, but do not allow intensity
stereo encoding because that would lead to loss of out of phase
ambience.

> I need to know since I will need to change these manually each time.

Name a preset and save it.

> Or is there a way to get it to always save it at 128

Again, you do not want to use 128 kbit. For non-critical things - until
the instant you start hearing what mp3 actually does to good programme -
use 192 kbit minimum. Or redo it all the instant mp3's real-world loss
of perspective and ambience dawns on you.

> without changing
> it manually? Another program maybe, a setting somewhere that got
> changed, something I'm doing wrong?

It will use the setting used last if applicable. Remember to check every
time. Yes, it is a late follow-up, I just did not have the time to type
it previously.


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

[alice]

On Apr 5, 3:42 pm, Carey Carlan > wrote:
> "alice" > wrote roups.com:
>
> > When I change the settings manually to 44100, 128kbps, it will save
> > it, but it will not play back on any player now (Winamp, Windows Media
> > Player, etc). This is now true of anything I'm recording now. Is there
> > something in my settings somewhere that is making it record in such a
> > way that it thinks that 96kpbs is the best quality I can export it as?
> > This used to not be true, and I haven't changed any settings myself,
> > so I don't know what to look for to change it back to whatever it was
> > that was in the first place.
>
> Post the file on the intenet somewhere and let us look at it.

When I right click, do you mean Wave Properties? Under that, there is
a tab called Sampler, and the sample period is set to 1/44101.

[alice]

On Apr 9, 10:27 am, Peter Larsen >
wrote:
> alice wrote:
> > I'm trying to turn some wav files into mp3 files, and I notice under
> > the exporting - mp - options, by default it is set at 96 kbps, 22050
> > hz, stereo (7.4:1).
>
> That is the bandwidth spec, not the sample rate spec.
>
> > This is also the highest kbps on the drop down
> > list.
>
> Deselect mp3-pro.
>

And what should I choose in its place? That is the only mp3 option
there is.

> > I know it should be 128kbps,
>
> VBS 100 percent, allow MS-stereo encoding, but do not allow intensity
> stereo encoding because that would lead to loss of out of phase
> ambience.
>
> > I need to know since I will need to change these manually each time.
>
> Name a preset and save it.
>
> > Or is there a way to get it to always save it at 128
>
> Again, you do not want to use 128 kbit. For non-critical things - until
> the instant you start hearing what mp3 actually does to good programme -
> use 192 kbit minimum. Or redo it all the instant mp3's real-world loss
> of perspective and ambience dawns on you.
>
> > without changing
> > it manually? Another program maybe, a setting somewhere that got
> > changed, something I'm doing wrong?
>
> It will use the setting used last if applicable. Remember to check every
> time. Yes, it is a late follow-up, I just did not have the time to type
> it previously.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Peter Larsen

[alice]

On Apr 9, 10:27 am, Peter Larsen >
wrote:
> alice wrote:
> > I'm trying to turn some wav files into mp3 files, and I notice under
> > the exporting - mp - options, by default it is set at 96 kbps, 22050
> > hz, stereo (7.4:1).
>
> That is the bandwidth spec, not the sample rate spec.
>
> > This is also the highest kbps on the drop down
> > list.
>
> Deselect mp3-pro.
>
> > I know it should be 128kbps,
>
> VBS 100 percent, allow MS-stereo encoding, but do not allow intensity
> stereo encoding because that would lead to loss of out of phase
> ambience.
>
> > I need to know since I will need to change these manually each time.
>
> Name a preset and save it.
>
> > Or is there a way to get it to always save it at 128
>
> Again, you do not want to use 128 kbit. For non-critical things - until
> the instant you start hearing what mp3 actually does to good programme -
> use 192 kbit minimum. Or redo it all the instant mp3's real-world loss
> of perspective and ambience dawns on you.
>
> > without changing
> > it manually? Another program maybe, a setting somewhere that got
> > changed, something I'm doing wrong?
>
> It will use the setting used last if applicable. Remember to check every
> time. Yes, it is a late follow-up, I just did not have the time to type
> it previously.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Peter Larsen

Oh I see it now. I've gotten it back to the default it used to be,
128, but you think VBS is what mp3s should be saved as?

[Carey Carlan]

"alice" > wrote in
oups.com:

> On Apr 5, 3:42 pm, Carey Carlan > wrote:
>> "alice" > wrote
>> roups.com:
>>
>> > When I change the settings manually to 44100, 128kbps, it will save
>> > it, but it will not play back on any player now (Winamp, Windows
>> > Media Player, etc). This is now true of anything I'm recording now.
>> > Is there something in my settings somewhere that is making it
>> > record in such a way that it thinks that 96kpbs is the best quality
>> > I can export it as? This used to not be true, and I haven't changed
>> > any settings myself, so I don't know what to look for to change it
>> > back to whatever it was that was in the first place.
>>
>> Post the file on the intenet somewhere and let us look at it.
>
> When I right click, do you mean Wave Properties? Under that, there is
> a tab called Sampler, and the sample period is set to 1/44101.

The last tab on the right is File Info

I just saved a file as 128 kbps, 44.1 kHz. The file info looks like:

File Type: 44100Hz, 16-bit, Stereo
Uncompressed Size: 66.67 MB (69,917,680 bytes)
File Format: mp3PRO® (FhG)
MPEG Layer-3, 128 Kbps (Stereo)
Size on Disk: 6.04 MB (6,342,531.00 bytes)
Last Written (local): 4/10/2007 15:06:38.968
Length: 6:36.358
17,479,420 samples

Despite the message, it was saved as mp3 (MP3Pro option off).

[Carey Carlan]

"alice" > wrote in news:1176227849.662492.188220
@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

> Oh I see it now. I've gotten it back to the default it used to be,
> 128, but you think VBS is what mp3s should be saved as?

There are option buttons for MP3 or mp3PRO and another set for CBR or VBR
(constant or variable bit rate).

Choose CBR and MP3.

[Richard Crowley]

"Carey Carlan" wrote ...
> I just saved a file as 128 kbps, 44.1 kHz. The file info looks like:
>
> File Type: 44100Hz, 16-bit, Stereo
> Uncompressed Size: 66.67 MB (69,917,680 bytes)
> File Format: mp3PRO® (FhG)
> MPEG Layer-3, 128 Kbps (Stereo)
> Size on Disk: 6.04 MB (6,342,531.00 bytes)
> Last Written (local): 4/10/2007 15:06:38.968
> Length: 6:36.358
> 17,479,420 samples
>
> Despite the message, it was saved as mp3 (MP3Pro option off).

Huh? The message you quoted says:
"MPEG Layer-3" (i.e. "MP3")

[Carey Carlan]

"Richard Crowley" > wrote in
:

> "Carey Carlan" wrote ...
>> I just saved a file as 128 kbps, 44.1 kHz. The file info looks like:
>>
>> File Type: 44100Hz, 16-bit, Stereo
>> Uncompressed Size: 66.67 MB (69,917,680 bytes)
>> File Format: mp3PRO® (FhG)
>> MPEG Layer-3, 128 Kbps (Stereo)
>> Size on Disk: 6.04 MB (6,342,531.00 bytes)
>> Last Written (local): 4/10/2007 15:06:38.968
>> Length: 6:36.358
>> 17,479,420 samples
>>
>> Despite the message, it was saved as mp3 (MP3Pro option off).
>
> Huh? The message you quoted says:
> "MPEG Layer-3" (i.e. "MP3")

and the line above says File Format: mp3PRO® (FhG)