D&R 8000 series

[Federico]

Hi,
I'm looking for infos on the D&R 8000 series. It was made in the early '80.
The manual and the service manual are online but I can't find infos on how
it sounds like.
http://www.d-r.nl/dnrsite/Service%20Parts/8000seriesManual.PDF
It seems similar to soundcraft consoles but it's only a guess...
Are the recent series better?
Any idea?
F.

[JSVice]

"Federico" > wrote in message
. ..
> Hi,
> I'm looking for infos on the D&R 8000 series. It was made in the early
> '80.
> The manual and the service manual are online but I can't find infos on how
> it sounds like.
> http://www.d-r.nl/dnrsite/Service%20Parts/8000seriesManual.PDF
> It seems similar to soundcraft consoles but it's only a guess...
> Are the recent series better?
> Any idea?
> F.

Have you contacted Paul Westbrook? He may be able to answer some questions.

--
Thanks,
John
>

[Romeo Rondeau]

Federico wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm looking for infos on the D&R 8000 series. It was made in the early '80.
> The manual and the service manual are online but I can't find infos on how
> it sounds like.
> http://www.d-r.nl/dnrsite/Service%20Parts/8000seriesManual.PDF
> It seems similar to soundcraft consoles but it's only a guess...
> Are the recent series better?
> Any idea?
> F.
>
>

Contact: Paul Westbrook

Phone: (817) 875-5556

[Mike Rivers]

On Mar 27, 4:48 am, "Federico" > wrote:

> I'm looking for infos on the D&R 8000 series. It was made in the early '80.
> The manual and the service manual are online but I can't find infos on how
> it sounds

OH! You mean they didn't put that in the manual? <g>

D&R consoles were never very popular because it wasn't all that big of
a company, but I've never heard of anyone who had one who didn't like
it. I suppose you "found one at a very good price"? Know your seller
and the console's history!

[Scott Dorsey]

Federico > wrote:
>I'm looking for infos on the D&R 8000 series. It was made in the early '80.
>The manual and the service manual are online but I can't find infos on how
>it sounds like.
>http://www.d-r.nl/dnrsite/Service%20Parts/8000seriesManual.PDF
>It seems similar to soundcraft consoles but it's only a guess...
>Are the recent series better?
>Any idea?

The D&R stuff is a step up from the Soundcrafts. I have not used the older
8000-series, but their Dayner and Cinemix consoles are all over the place
in Europe. They just work... the layout is intuitive, the equalization
does what you think it ought to, the routing is clean and there are no
stupid tricks to learn. I like them.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Federico]

I just discovered the company....
and I had the opportunity to buy one but now it's gone.

What other brands are there in Europe to look after to?
I'm looking for some 32+ channels console for studio mixing.
I made some records with Soundcraft mixers (DC2020, 3200, TS24) but I feel I
want something of better quality.
What about Amek? (Angela, Big, Mozart, Rembrandt series are "popular" here
in Europe).
Or TAC? Sountracks? Mitec?
And where's the problem in using a console made for live concerts like Midas
Verona or Soundcraft Series 4 or Yamaha 4000 for example?
Thanks
F.

[Mike Rivers]

On Mar 27, 11:46 am, "Federico" > wrote:
> I just discovered the company....
> and I had the opportunity to buy one but now it's gone

How soon do you need it? If you found one, there will be another.

> I made some records with Soundcraft mixers (DC2020, 3200, TS24) but I feel I
> want something of better quality.
> What about Amek? (Angela, Big, Mozart, Rembrandt series are "popular" here
> in Europe).
> Or TAC? Sountracks? Mitec?

Those Soundcrafts are pretty nice. What didn't you like about them? I
think you'll find all of those to be pretty much the same. Amek had
good designs, particularly during the Neve years, but they have had
some manufacturing problems. They're OK if you get a good one, but
there are some dogs out there.

> And where's the problem in using a console made for live concerts like Midas
> Verona or Soundcraft Series 4 or Yamaha 4000 for example?

If you're recording concerts, they're fine. But the difference between
a live sound console and a recording console is the arrangement of
inputs and outputs. A recording console will have inputs (from the
recorder) to what amounts to a whole other mixer that's used for
monitoring while tracking. If you're using a computer as your recorder
and mixer, you'll suffer latency problems when doing overdubs, but you
don't need nearly as many inputs as if you were using a real recorder
and using the console as your mixer.