PC recording software recommendation

[NewCreature]

My 16 year old son is a pretty decent bass player, but wants to expand
his marketability with some additional skills. He has an interest in
audio recording and mixing and wants to pick a good piece of software
to learn that will help him if he wants to go deep into the recording
side of things. For example, if a person wants to move into graphic
design, they are wasting their time unless they spend their time with
photoshop and illustrator.

My question is what software packages should he be looking at that are
"industry standards", keeping in mind that for right now, he is a PC
guy, not a mac guy. Please don't start the whole "he is wasting his
time on a PC" argument. Working on a Mac isn't an option right now for
him and like photoshop and illustrator, I am sure there are packages
that run on both platforms.

Right now he is working with Cubase LE and wants to know where to go.

Mike
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[Beauchampy]

NewCreature wrote:
> My 16 year old son is a pretty decent bass player, but wants to expand
> his marketability with some additional skills. He has an interest in
> audio recording and mixing and wants to pick a good piece of software
> to learn that will help him if he wants to go deep into the recording
> side of things. For example, if a person wants to move into graphic
> design, they are wasting their time unless they spend their time with
> photoshop and illustrator.
>
> My question is what software packages should he be looking at that are
> "industry standards", keeping in mind that for right now, he is a PC
> guy, not a mac guy. Please don't start the whole "he is wasting his
> time on a PC" argument. Working on a Mac isn't an option right now for
> him and like photoshop and illustrator, I am sure there are packages
> that run on both platforms.
>
> Right now he is working with Cubase LE and wants to know where to go.

Pro Tools?


>
> Mike
> <><
>

[Joseph Ashwood]

"NewCreature" > wrote in message
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> My question is what software packages should he be looking at that are
> "industry standards", keeping in mind that for right now, he is a PC
> guy, not a mac guy. Please don't start the whole "he is wasting his
> time on a PC" argument. Working on a Mac isn't an option right now for
> him and like photoshop and illustrator, I am sure there are packages
> that run on both platforms.
>
> Right now he is working with Cubase LE and wants to know where to go.

Cubase is actually a reasonable choice. As far as most common in the
industry ProTools in it's various forms is the most common.

The more likely problem is a lack of good monitoring, this is something that
is exceedingly common.

Generally the key points in any process is not familiarity with the software
itself, the big ones are intuitive enough now that he should have no
problems adapting as needed, but learning to listen critically to the mix.
Developing critical listening is very time consuming process, and is mostly
down to him just putting the hours in tweaking a mix for a band.
Joe

[Arny Krueger]

"NewCreature" > wrote in message
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> My 16 year old son is a pretty decent bass player, but
> wants to expand his marketability with some additional
> skills.

Not knowing the young man or the specifics about him, I will nevertheless
say that the most likely outlet for those additional skills will be as
adjuncts to his musical talents, which themselves are most like to be *not*
the primary means by which he financially sustains himself and his family
throughout his life.

> He has an interest in audio recording and mixing
> and wants to pick a good piece of software to learn that
> will help him if he wants to go deep into the recording
> side of things. For example, if a person wants to move
> into graphic design, they are wasting their time unless
> they spend their time with photoshop and illustrator.

Good example - both audio and graphic design are lines of business where
there has been a dramatic shrinkage of good-paying jobs because of
technological advances.

> My question is what software packages should he be
> looking at that are "industry standards", keeping in mind
> that for right now, he is a PC guy, not a mac guy.

The idea that the Mac is the only professional tool or the majority
professional tool died some years back.

Today, Macs are primarily sold as things you hook your iPod to. They are
still valid professional tools because they are still good computers, but
their strangle-hold on the professional tools market for either graphic
design or audio is long gone.

> Please don't start the whole "he is wasting his time on a PC"
> argument. Working on a Mac isn't an option right now for
> him and like photoshop and illustrator, I am sure there
> are packages that run on both platforms.

...including both Photoshop and Illustrator. Yes, there are Windows versions
of both, and its probable that there are more copies of either running on
Windows PCs, simply because the vast majority of PCs are Windows PCs.

> Right now he is working with Cubase LE and wants to know
> where to go.

What's wrong with stepping up to Cubase?

[Here In Oregon]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message



Ø What's wrong with stepping up to Cubase?



Look what they did to their own customers just recently. Burned them with
an upgrade promise with new improvements and features and said they were
going to delay it altogether and focus instead on developing a 64 bit
version to compete with Sonar I assume. A ton of unhappy campers without
mosquito repellant.



Pro Tools is the pro industry standard but I would assume you are not going
to want to spend the many thousands of dollars on your 16 year old son just
yet. Pro Tools LE has many limitations with hardware supporting it and has
some serious limitations built in. Times are changing by the second and
cross platform digital audio workstations have a lot to contend with
currently.



For the PC in my opinion Sonar would be your best bet. Since around the
time Roland became involved with this DAW, it has matured like a nice
vintage Chianti.



It used to be the easiest DAW to master but now since it does everything but
bake bread; Cakewalk's learning curve is somewhat steep but not anymore than
the competition. Again,...it is a PC based DAW running 64 bit for a long
time now and rumors have it that they are in bed with Microsoft. Ughhh!
Not literally!

[Laurence Payne]

On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 12:58:14 -0800, "Here In Oregon" >
wrote:

>Look what they did to their own customers just recently. Burned them with
>an upgrade promise with new improvements and features and said they were
>going to delay it altogether and focus instead on developing a 64 bit
>version to compete with Sonar I assume. A ton of unhappy campers without
>mosquito repellant.

Cubase 4 isn't a year old. What further upgrade was offered?

[Here In Oregon]

"Laurence Payne" <lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom> wrote in message

> Cubase 4 isn't a year old. What further upgrade was offered?


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