16-input FireWire recording interface?

[stv]

Are there FireWire recording interfaces that have 16 inputs?

Mic pre's optional... line in will do.

thanks,

stv

[Mike Rivers]

On Feb 3, 4:43 pm, "stv" > wrote:
> Are there FireWire recording interfaces that have 16 inputs?
> Mic pre's optional... line in will do.

The Mackie Onyx 1620 and 1640 mixers with the optional Firewire card
have 16 inputs. The 1620 has 8 mic/line inputs and 8 line inputs, the
1640 has 16 mic/line inputs. The Lynx Aurora 16 with the optional
Firewire card has 16 line inputs (and outputs).

How small do you want it? How big can you stand it? Do you want 16
inputs and 16 outputs? How much would you like to pay? How much can
you pay? Do you want it all in one box, or can you handle two 8-
channel boxes?

It's rare that you can get exactly what you want even though it sounds
so simple. You have to juggle things and accept some compromises some
times.

[stv]

On Feb 3, 6:15 pm, "Mike Rivers" > wrote:
> On Feb 3, 4:43 pm, "stv" > wrote:
>
> > Are there FireWire recording interfaces that have 16 inputs?
> > Mic pre's optional... line in will do.
>

Hi Mike,

The Mackies are nice, for mixers. I should have been more specific!

> How small do you want it? How big can you stand it?

I was hoping for no larger than a couple of rack spaces.

> Do you want 16
> inputs and 16 outputs?

I don't need individual outputs, I want a device to track to a FW HD
via a Mac,
probably a laptop.

> Do you want it all in one box, or can you handle two 8-
> channel boxes?

I've been finding 8-channel boxes, but it would be cool to have all of
them in
one box. If there are none of those, it'll be two 8-ch ones.

> It's rare that you can get exactly what you want even though it sounds
> so simple. You have to juggle things and accept some compromises some
> times.

Yep, so true. Thanks!

stv

[stv]

On Feb 3, 5:01 pm, "Soundhaspriority" > wrote:
>
> http://apogeedigital.com/products/ad16x.php
> And it has many advantages over cheaper interfaces besides the channel
> count.
>
> Bob Morein
> Dresher, PA
> (215) 646-4894

Thanks, Bob, I didn't know about this one!

stv

[Patric Doyle]

stv wrote:
> Are there FireWire recording interfaces that have 16 inputs?
>
> Mic pre's optional... line in will do.
>
> thanks,
>
> stv
>


The Alesis Multimix 16 mixer has 18 firewire inputs.
2 outputs. It works great for $299 or so.

Mackie has their version but the firewire interface
ups the the price considerably.
They believe their pre's are better so the mixers
base price is greater.

Patric

[Andy Eng]

> > How small do you want it? How big can you stand it?
>
> I was hoping for no larger than a couple of rack spaces.
>
> > Do you want 16
> > inputs and 16 outputs?
>
> I don't need individual outputs, I want a device to track to a FW HD
> via a Mac,
> probably a laptop.
>
> > Do you want it all in one box, or can you handle two 8-
> > channel boxes?
>
> I've been finding 8-channel boxes, but it would be cool to have all of
> them in
> one box. If there are none of those, it'll be two 8-ch ones.

Started out with a Traveller to a G4PB & external HD a couple years
ago for recording at places. This year, I added an ADA8000 (didn't
need additional mic preamps) for 16 total channels in and a gator 3u
softcase to help schlep stuff around. With the one extra slot, I'm
contemplating a Furman (sp?) power strip with lights or a 1u EQ for
the third slot. Amazing how stuff accumulates...

Without the rack to provide some stability to the converters, it got
to be quite the squirrely rats nest of cables. Laptop sits nicely on
top.

Best,
Andy

[Richard Crowley]

"stv" < wrote ...
> Are there FireWire recording interfaces that have 16 inputs?
>
> Mic pre's optional... line in will do.

I'm assembling one from this info...
http://www.gothamsound.com/main.shtml?page=firewire

Currently working out a reasonable DC-DC power supply
to run on 10-18VDC (for true portable use)

[hank alrich]

"stv" < wrote ...
> > Are there FireWire recording interfaces that have 16 inputs?
> >
> > Mic pre's optional... line in will do.

The Metric Halo MIO2882's are in your ballpark input-wise. You could use
one of those and a pre like the Beri AD8000 or such with Litepipe
outputs to feed the MIO's Litepipe inputs, or a pair of MIO's. Pres are
good at low gains, under 25 dB. Above that they get noisy. Conversion is
quite good for the money, good enough that there is no blaming the
convertors if the sound ain't great.

www.mhlabs.com

--
ha
"Iraq" is Arabic for "Vietnam"

[Thomas Bishop]

"stv" > wrote in message
> Are there FireWire recording interfaces that have 16 inputs?
>
> Mic pre's optional... line in will do.


MOTU 8Pre and any 8 channel preamp/AD unit.

[John Albert]

Re the question:
<< Are there FireWire recording interfaces that have 16 inputs? >>

Aren't some of the 8-input Firewire devices "gang-able"?

- John

[[email protected]]

> Aren't some of the 8-input Firewire devices "gang-able"?

apple has aggregated devices via its audio midi setup...

metric halo does this in it's "console" software

[Ty Ford]

On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 18:52:45 -0500, stv wrote
(in article . com>):

> On Feb 3, 6:15 pm, "Mike Rivers" > wrote:
>> On Feb 3, 4:43 pm, "stv" > wrote:
>>
>>> Are there FireWire recording interfaces that have 16 inputs?
>>> Mic pre's optional... line in will do.
>>
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> The Mackies are nice, for mixers. I should have been more specific!
>
>> How small do you want it? How big can you stand it?
>
> I was hoping for no larger than a couple of rack spaces.
>
>> Do you want 16
>> inputs and 16 outputs?
>
> I don't need individual outputs, I want a device to track to a FW HD
> via a Mac,
> probably a laptop.

Ah, then try Boom Recorder

the list of compatible hardware is at:
http://www.vosgames.nl/products/BoomRecorder/compatibility.shtml''

Aggregatable hardware boxes allow you to link multiple boxes together for
more tracks

Regards,

Ty Ford



--Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services
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[Ty Ford]

On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 19:34:22 -0500, Patric Doyle wrote
(in article >):

> stv wrote:
>> Are there FireWire recording interfaces that have 16 inputs?
>>
>> Mic pre's optional... line in will do.
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> stv
>>
>
>
> The Alesis Multimix 16 mixer has 18 firewire inputs.
> 2 outputs. It works great for $299 or so.
>
> Mackie has their version but the firewire interface
> ups the the price considerably.
> They believe their pre's are better so the mixers
> base price is greater.
>
> Patric

Really. 18 firewire inputs?

Regards,

Ty Ford


--Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services
Acting and Voiceover Demos http://www.tyford.com
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[Ty Ford]

On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 10:47:55 -0500, John Albert wrote
(in article >):

> Re the question:
> << Are there FireWire recording interfaces that have 16 inputs? >>
>
> Aren't some of the 8-input Firewire devices "gang-able"?
>
> - John

Yes. See my earlier post. Look for aggregateable devices.
There's a list on the Boom Recorder site.

Ty Ford


--Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services
Acting and Voiceover Demos http://www.tyford.com
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[Arny Krueger]

"Ty Ford" > wrote in message

> On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 19:34:22 -0500, Patric Doyle wrote
> (in article >):
>
>> stv wrote:
>>> Are there FireWire recording interfaces that have 16
>>> inputs?
>>>
>>> Mic pre's optional... line in will do.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> stv
>>>
>>
>>
>> The Alesis Multimix 16 mixer has 18 firewire inputs.
>> 2 outputs. It works great for $299 or so.
>>
>> Mackie has their version but the firewire interface
>> ups the the price considerably.
>> They believe their pre's are better so the mixers
>> base price is greater.
>>
>> Patric
>
> Really. 18 firewire inputs?

The user's manual says:

http://alesis.com/downloads/manuals/MMFW12_16Manual.pdf

"Multichannel Firewire (IEEE 1394a) input and output routes each individual
channel's output, plus the MAIN
outputs, through the FIREWIRE port, and receives two channels back from the
computer, all in 24-bit, 44.1/48
kHz digital audio."

I read that as 16 line-level firewire recording channels, 2 more firewire
channels for the mix, and 2 firewire playback channels.

[Mike Rivers]

On Feb 4, 12:37 pm, Ty Ford > wrote:

> > The Alesis Multimix 16 mixer has 18 firewire inputs.

> Really. 18 firewire inputs?

Depends on how you count 'em. There's one Firewire output that carries
18 channels - the 16 mic or line channel inputs and the left and right
mix bus outputs.

[Mike Rivers]

On Feb 4, 10:47 am, John Albert > wrote:

> Aren't some of the 8-input Firewire devices "gang-able"?

Yes, but it depends on several things, including which driver model
you use. Windows normally only lets you use one ASIO Firewire audio
device at a time (or maybe only one ASIO device, period). A Mac will
let you conglomerate multiple ASIO devides, as will the CEntrance
Universal Firewire Driver for Windows (at least for the devices with
which they've tested it). Presonus claims to have a driver that allows
up to three FireWhazziz units to be used together on the same Windows
computer.

So, in general, yes and no, but sometimes maybe.

[Per Karlsson]

> So, in general, yes and no, but sometimes maybe.

Can I quote you on that?

[Mike Rivers]

On Feb 6, 6:07 am, "Per Karlsson" > wrote:
> > So, in general, yes and no, but sometimes maybe.

> Can I quote you on that?

Mostly.