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Geoff
January 31st 07, 05:56 AM
Amps, with the charming brand name of "Bugera" , slogan "The Soul Of
Valves" .

http://www.bugera-amps.com/

From the look on his face, the dude in the pic looks to be being b.....ed
too !

geoff

Paul Stamler
January 31st 07, 06:47 AM
"Geoff" > wrote in message
...
> Amps, with the charming brand name of "Bugera" , slogan "The Soul Of
> Valves" .
>
> http://www.bugera-amps.com/
>
> From the look on his face, the dude in the pic looks to be being b.....ed
> too !

Maybe he saw how the website was designed. Hope the amps are better.

Peace,
Paul

Ty Ford
January 31st 07, 01:11 PM
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 00:56:43 -0500, Geoff wrote
(in article >):

> Amps, with the charming brand name of "Bugera" , slogan "The Soul Of
> Valves" .
>
> http://www.bugera-amps.com/
>
> From the look on his face, the dude in the pic looks to be being b.....ed
> too !
>
> geoff
>
>

buggered?

Ty

--Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services
Acting and Voiceover Demos http://www.tyford.com
Guitar player?:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RZJ9MptZmU

mcnews
January 31st 07, 01:43 PM
On Jan 31, 8:11 am, Ty Ford > wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 00:56:43 -0500, Geoff wrote
> (in article >):
>
> > Amps, with the charming brand name of "Bugera" , slogan "The Soul Of
> > Valves" .
>
> >http://www.bugera-amps.com/
>
> > From the look on his face, the dude in the pic looks to be being b.....ed
> > too !
>
> > geoff
>
> buggered?
>
> Ty
>
> --Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services
> Acting and Voiceover Demoshttp://www.tyford.com
> Guitar player?:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RZJ9MptZmU

bugarued - warm and fat
yick!

Eeyore
January 31st 07, 02:50 PM
Geoff wrote:

> Amps, with the charming brand name of "Bugera" , slogan "The Soul Of
> Valves" .
>
> http://www.bugera-amps.com/

That's a really unfortunate choice of name !

Graham

Meindert Sprang
January 31st 07, 03:52 PM
"Eeyore" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Geoff wrote:
>
> > Amps, with the charming brand name of "Bugera" , slogan "The Soul Of
> > Valves" .
> >
> > http://www.bugera-amps.com/
>
> That's a really unfortunate choice of name !

Do tell....

Meindert

Eeyore
January 31st 07, 04:17 PM
Meindert Sprang wrote:

> "Eeyore" > wrote in message
> > Geoff wrote:
> >
> > > Amps, with the charming brand name of "Bugera" , slogan "The Soul Of
> > > Valves" .
> > >
> > > http://www.bugera-amps.com/
> >
> > That's a really unfortunate choice of name !
>
> Do tell....

I dare say the Antipodeans such as Geoff will tend to pronounces it as
'buggerer'. A man who is the active partner in anal sex ( sodomy / buggery ).

Graham

Gareth Magennis
January 31st 07, 04:52 PM
"Eeyore" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Geoff wrote:
>
>> Amps, with the charming brand name of "Bugera" , slogan "The Soul Of
>> Valves" .
>>
>> http://www.bugera-amps.com/
>
> That's a really unfortunate choice of name !
>
> Graham
>


I was Googling the other day to find out exactly why it is no longer
Politically Correct to use the term "Spastic" for certain disabled persons,
and found this within the definition in Wikipedia.
"............Many products in America use the word Spaz as part of their
name because of the American connotation of energy and excitement.
Controversy arises if products are sold in the UK under the same name. In
particular the manufacturers and importers of the Spazz wheelchair were
criticised by the British SCOPE charity when they put the wheelchair on sale
in the UK".


(for those outside the UK who are a little puzzled, calling a disabled
person a "Spazz" is about as offensive as it gets)



Gareth

Meindert Sprang
January 31st 07, 05:06 PM
"Eeyore" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Meindert Sprang wrote:
>
> > "Eeyore" > wrote in message
> > > > http://www.bugera-amps.com/
> > >
> > > That's a really unfortunate choice of name !
> >
> > Do tell....
>
> I dare say the Antipodeans such as Geoff will tend to pronounces it as
> 'buggerer'. A man who is the active partner in anal sex ( sodomy /
buggery ).

Ah, I see. You learn some everyday.. :-)

Thanks,
Meindert

Jay Kadis
January 31st 07, 05:07 PM
In article >,
"Gareth Magennis" > wrote:

> "Eeyore" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >
> > Geoff wrote:
> >
> >> Amps, with the charming brand name of "Bugera" , slogan "The Soul Of
> >> Valves" .
> >>
> >> http://www.bugera-amps.com/
> >
> > That's a really unfortunate choice of name !
> >
> > Graham
> >
>
>
> I was Googling the other day to find out exactly why it is no longer
> Politically Correct to use the term "Spastic" for certain disabled persons,
> and found this within the definition in Wikipedia.
> "............Many products in America use the word Spaz as part of their
> name because of the American connotation of energy and excitement.
> Controversy arises if products are sold in the UK under the same name. In
> particular the manufacturers and importers of the Spazz wheelchair were
> criticised by the British SCOPE charity when they put the wheelchair on sale
> in the UK".
>
>
> (for those outside the UK who are a little puzzled, calling a disabled
> person a "Spazz" is about as offensive as it gets)
>
>
>
> Gareth

When I was in high school in the US (not recently), spaz was not a term
of endearment. I have never heard it used in a positive context. How
it could be used by a company making wheelchairs is particularly
baffling.

Oh, right, Wikipedia... "changing reality to suit our perceptions."

-Jay

--
x------- Jay Kadis ------- x ---- Jay's Attic Studio ----x
x Lecturer, Audio Engineer x Dexter Records x
x CCRMA, Stanford University x http://www.offbeats.com/ x
x---------- http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jay/ ------------x

Meindert Sprang
January 31st 07, 05:10 PM
"Gareth Magennis" > wrote in message
...
> I was Googling the other day to find out exactly why it is no longer
> Politically Correct to use the term "Spastic" for certain disabled
persons,
> and found this within the definition in Wikipedia.
> "............Many products in America use the word Spaz as part of their
> name because of the American connotation of energy and excitement.

Mmmm.... over here in the Netherlands, Oil of Olaz sells
cleaning/moisturizing tissues called "Daily Facial".
Makes one wonder.....

Meindert

Mike Rivers
January 31st 07, 05:18 PM
I was always amused by "Fry's" electronics.

-zero
January 31st 07, 05:20 PM
"Eeyore" > wrote in message
...
>> "Eeyore" > wrote in message

>
> I dare say the Antipodeans such as Geoff will tend to pronounces it as
> 'buggerer'. A man who is the active partner in anal sex ( sodomy /
> buggery ).

Would the _active partner_be considered the "pitcher" or the "catcher" or
is
buggerer a non-specific team player designation? Antipodeans want to know.

-zero

Romeo Rondeau
January 31st 07, 05:53 PM
Mike Rivers wrote:
> I was always amused by "Fry's" electronics.
>

I always like the sporting goods store, mostly frequented by men...
called "Dick's"

Gareth Magennis
January 31st 07, 06:06 PM
>>
>> I was Googling the other day to find out exactly why it is no longer
>> Politically Correct to use the term "Spastic" for certain disabled
>> persons,
>> and found this within the definition in Wikipedia.
>> "............Many products in America use the word Spaz as part of their
>> name because of the American connotation of energy and excitement.
>> Controversy arises if products are sold in the UK under the same name. In
>> particular the manufacturers and importers of the Spazz wheelchair were
>> criticised by the British SCOPE charity when they put the wheelchair on
>> sale
>> in the UK".
>>
>>
>> (for those outside the UK who are a little puzzled, calling a disabled
>> person a "Spazz" is about as offensive as it gets)
>>
>>
>>
>> Gareth
>
> When I was in high school in the US (not recently), spaz was not a term
> of endearment. I have never heard it used in a positive context. How
> it could be used by a company making wheelchairs is particularly
> baffling.
>
> Oh, right, Wikipedia... "changing reality to suit our perceptions."
>
> -Jay
>


Hmm, maybe I shouldn't take Wikipedia too seriously then, I don't usually
read it and don't know how accurate it is or isn't - I thought people could
change things if they weren't accurate.


Gareth.

January 31st 07, 06:19 PM
"Mike Rivers" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> I was always amused by "Fry's" electronics.
>

"Fluke" Multimeters....

"If it works, it must be a Fluke!"

Mikey
Nova Music Productions

Jay Kadis
January 31st 07, 06:34 PM
In article >,
"Gareth Magennis" > wrote:

> >>
> >> I was Googling the other day to find out exactly why it is no longer
> >> Politically Correct to use the term "Spastic" for certain disabled
> >> persons,
> >> and found this within the definition in Wikipedia.
> >> "............Many products in America use the word Spaz as part of their
> >> name because of the American connotation of energy and excitement.
> >> Controversy arises if products are sold in the UK under the same name. In
> >> particular the manufacturers and importers of the Spazz wheelchair were
> >> criticised by the British SCOPE charity when they put the wheelchair on
> >> sale
> >> in the UK".
> >>
> >>
> >> (for those outside the UK who are a little puzzled, calling a disabled
> >> person a "Spazz" is about as offensive as it gets)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Gareth
> >
> > When I was in high school in the US (not recently), spaz was not a term
> > of endearment. I have never heard it used in a positive context. How
> > it could be used by a company making wheelchairs is particularly
> > baffling.
> >
> > Oh, right, Wikipedia... "changing reality to suit our perceptions."
> >
> > -Jay
> >
>
>
> Hmm, maybe I shouldn't take Wikipedia too seriously then, I don't usually
> read it and don't know how accurate it is or isn't - I thought people could
> change things if they weren't accurate.
>
>
> Gareth.

That's the point: they can also change them if they are already
accurate. I just have a hard time accepting a user-generated
encyclopedia given the amount of misinformation on the Internet.

-Jay

--
x------- Jay Kadis ------- x ---- Jay's Attic Studio ----x
x Lecturer, Audio Engineer x Dexter Records x
x CCRMA, Stanford University x http://www.offbeats.com/ x
x---------- http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jay/ ------------x

Laurence Payne
January 31st 07, 06:36 PM
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:52:58 -0000, "Gareth Magennis"
> wrote:

>I was Googling the other day to find out exactly why it is no longer
>Politically Correct to use the term "Spastic" for certain disabled persons,
>and found this within the definition in Wikipedia.

What about "Flid"? Remember that one? Current when I was at school,
alongside a short generation of Thalidomide victims.

Arny Krueger
January 31st 07, 07:03 PM
"Eeyore" > wrote in
message
> Geoff wrote:
>
>> Amps, with the charming brand name of "Bugera" , slogan
>> "The Soul Of Valves" .
>>
>> http://www.bugera-amps.com/
>
> That's a really unfortunate choice of name !

Chevrolet sold a line of cars in Spanish speaking countries named "Nova",
easily pronounced as "no va", meaning doesn't go.

Richard Crowley
January 31st 07, 07:07 PM
"Arny Krueger" wrote ...

> Chevrolet sold a line of cars in Spanish speaking countries named "Nova",
> easily pronounced as "no va", meaning doesn't go.

Urban legend. http://www.snopes.com/business/misxlate/nova.asp

Carey Carlan
January 31st 07, 07:14 PM
"Arny Krueger" > wrote in
:

> "Eeyore" > wrote in
> message
>> Geoff wrote:
>>
>>> Amps, with the charming brand name of "Bugera" , slogan
>>> "The Soul Of Valves" .
>>>
>>> http://www.bugera-amps.com/
>>
>> That's a really unfortunate choice of name !
>
> Chevrolet sold a line of cars in Spanish speaking countries named
> "Nova", easily pronounced as "no va", meaning doesn't go.

How does that compare to the Paseo, Spanish for "walk"

Arny Krueger
January 31st 07, 07:18 PM
"Richard Crowley" > wrote in message

> "Arny Krueger" wrote ...
>
>> Chevrolet sold a line of cars in Spanish speaking
>> countries named "Nova", easily pronounced as "no va",
>> meaning doesn't go.
>
> Urban legend.
> http://www.snopes.com/business/misxlate/nova.asp

Which confirms that Novas were sold in spanish-speaking countries, and that
No va indeed means won't go.

For irony they use the example of a dining room set branded "notable", which
by similar means would come out "no table". Yeah, many English speakers
would notice that and smile too.

Looks to me like snopes.com is bending over backwards make themselves look
weak. ;-)

liquidator
January 31st 07, 07:44 PM
"Eeyore" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Meindert Sprang wrote:
>
> > "Eeyore" > wrote in message
> > > Geoff wrote:
> > >
> > > > Amps, with the charming brand name of "Bugera" , slogan "The Soul
Of
> > > > Valves" .
> > > >
> > > > http://www.bugera-amps.com/
> > >
> > > That's a really unfortunate choice of name !
> >
> > Do tell....
>
> I dare say the Antipodeans such as Geoff will tend to pronounces it as
> 'buggerer'. A man who is the active partner in anal sex ( sodomy /
buggery ).
>
> Graham
>

There have been a nuber of such marketing disasters.

Chevrolet could not figure out why the Nova would not sell in Mexico.

"Va" meaning "to go" in Spanish, No Va means literally "it won't go".

Then ther was the decision to name their pickup truck Apache, when a large
share of their market, Native Americans, were hereditary enemies with that
tribe.


A friend brought me back a bottle of soda from Japan called Karapp...


We even got a load of power supplies-I kid you not- from the Fuk Hing
Electroncs company.



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Jay Kadis
January 31st 07, 07:51 PM
In article >,
"Richard Crowley" > wrote:

> "Arny Krueger" wrote ...
>
> > Chevrolet sold a line of cars in Spanish speaking countries named "Nova",
> > easily pronounced as "no va", meaning doesn't go.
>
> Urban legend. http://www.snopes.com/business/misxlate/nova.asp

Not complete urban legend: I had one and it frequently didn't go.

-Jay

--
x------- Jay Kadis ------- x ---- Jay's Attic Studio ----x
x Lecturer, Audio Engineer x Dexter Records x
x CCRMA, Stanford University x http://www.offbeats.com/ x
x---------- http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jay/ ------------x

Saxology
January 31st 07, 08:11 PM
<snip>
> "If it works, it must be a Fluke!"
>
> Mikey
> Nova Music Productions

translation: no go music productions..... now that is a fluke

January 31st 07, 09:04 PM
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 18:36:16 +0000, Laurence Payne
<lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom> wrote:

>On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:52:58 -0000, "Gareth Magennis"
> wrote:
>
>>I was Googling the other day to find out exactly why it is no longer
>>Politically Correct to use the term "Spastic" for certain disabled persons,
>>and found this within the definition in Wikipedia.
>
>What about "Flid"? Remember that one? Current when I was at school,
>alongside a short generation of Thalidomide victims.

Anusole. Pile ointment.

January 31st 07, 09:08 PM
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 18:10:54 +0100, "Meindert Sprang"
> wrote:

>"Gareth Magennis" > wrote in message
...
>> I was Googling the other day to find out exactly why it is no longer
>> Politically Correct to use the term "Spastic" for certain disabled
>persons,
>> and found this within the definition in Wikipedia.
>> "............Many products in America use the word Spaz as part of their
>> name because of the American connotation of energy and excitement.
>
>Mmmm.... over here in the Netherlands, Oil of Olaz sells
>cleaning/moisturizing tissues called "Daily Facial".
>Makes one wonder.....
>
>Meindert

What could you possibly mean? My good lady enjoys a daily facial, says
her skin feels revitalised and my ballsack is emptied, everyone happy.

Romeo Rondeau
January 31st 07, 09:27 PM
Arny Krueger wrote:
> "Richard Crowley" > wrote in message
>
>> "Arny Krueger" wrote ...
>>
>>> Chevrolet sold a line of cars in Spanish speaking
>>> countries named "Nova", easily pronounced as "no va",
>>> meaning doesn't go.
>> Urban legend.
>> http://www.snopes.com/business/misxlate/nova.asp
>
> Which confirms that Novas were sold in spanish-speaking countries, and that
> No va indeed means won't go.
>
> For irony they use the example of a dining room set branded "notable", which
> by similar means would come out "no table". Yeah, many English speakers
> would notice that and smile too.
>
> Looks to me like snopes.com is bending over backwards make themselves look
> weak. ;-)

Actually I read the article and I'm thinking that Snopes is more or less
taking the position of the car actually selling well, and that part
being the "urban legend"

Arny Krueger
January 31st 07, 09:35 PM
"Romeo Rondeau" > wrote in message

> Arny Krueger wrote:
>> "Richard Crowley" > wrote in message
>>
>>> "Arny Krueger" wrote ...
>>>
>>>> Chevrolet sold a line of cars in Spanish speaking
>>>> countries named "Nova", easily pronounced as "no va",
>>>> meaning doesn't go.
>>> Urban legend.
>>> http://www.snopes.com/business/misxlate/nova.asp
>>
>> Which confirms that Novas were sold in spanish-speaking
>> countries, and that No va indeed means won't go.
>>
>> For irony they use the example of a dining room set
>> branded "notable", which by similar means would come out
>> "no table". Yeah, many English speakers would notice
>> that and smile too. Looks to me like snopes.com is bending over backwards
>> make themselves look weak. ;-)
>
> Actually I read the article and I'm thinking that Snopes
> is more or less taking the position of the car actually
> selling well, and that part being the "urban legend"

Taking that view, then Richard's post is irrelevant to my comment, since I
didn't say that the Nova didn't sell in Mexico, only that the name seemed
unfortunate.

Romeo Rondeau
January 31st 07, 09:49 PM
Arny Krueger wrote:
> "Romeo Rondeau" > wrote in message
>
>> Arny Krueger wrote:
>>> "Richard Crowley" > wrote in message
>>>
>>>> "Arny Krueger" wrote ...
>>>>
>>>>> Chevrolet sold a line of cars in Spanish speaking
>>>>> countries named "Nova", easily pronounced as "no va",
>>>>> meaning doesn't go.
>>>> Urban legend.
>>>> http://www.snopes.com/business/misxlate/nova.asp
>>> Which confirms that Novas were sold in spanish-speaking
>>> countries, and that No va indeed means won't go.
>>>
>>> For irony they use the example of a dining room set
>>> branded "notable", which by similar means would come out
>>> "no table". Yeah, many English speakers would notice
>>> that and smile too. Looks to me like snopes.com is bending over backwards
>>> make themselves look weak. ;-)
>> Actually I read the article and I'm thinking that Snopes
>> is more or less taking the position of the car actually
>> selling well, and that part being the "urban legend"
>
> Taking that view, then Richard's post is irrelevant to my comment, since I
> didn't say that the Nova didn't sell in Mexico, only that the name seemed
> unfortunate.

Exactly :-)

Brian Running
January 31st 07, 09:53 PM
> I was always amused by "Fry's" electronics.

Remember Fried loudspeakers? Had a label right on the grille, said
"Fried." I don't know how they ever sold any.

Mogens V.
January 31st 07, 11:54 PM
Arny Krueger wrote:
> "Richard Crowley" > wrote in message
>
>
>>"Arny Krueger" wrote ...
>>
>>
>>>Chevrolet sold a line of cars in Spanish speaking
>>>countries named "Nova", easily pronounced as "no va",
>>>meaning doesn't go.
>>
>>Urban legend.
>>http://www.snopes.com/business/misxlate/nova.asp
>
>
> Which confirms that Novas were sold in spanish-speaking countries, and that
> No va indeed means won't go.
>
> For irony they use the example of a dining room set branded "notable", which
> by similar means would come out "no table". Yeah, many English speakers
> would notice that and smile too.

Hmm, french dinner at a notable, with pain to the hors de somehing...

> Looks to me like snopes.com is bending over backwards make themselves look
> weak. ;-)


--
Kind regards,
Mogens V.

D Parker
February 1st 07, 12:05 AM
"liquidator" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Eeyore" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> Meindert Sprang wrote:
>>
>> > "Eeyore" > wrote in message
>> > > Geoff wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Amps, with the charming brand name of "Bugera" , slogan "The Soul
> Of
>> > > > Valves" .
>> > > >
>> > > > http://www.bugera-amps.com/
>> > >
>> > > That's a really unfortunate choice of name !
>> >
>> > Do tell....
>>
>> I dare say the Antipodeans such as Geoff will tend to pronounces it as
>> 'buggerer'. A man who is the active partner in anal sex ( sodomy /
> buggery ).
>>
>> Graham
>>
>
> There have been a nuber of such marketing disasters.
>
> Chevrolet could not figure out why the Nova would not sell in Mexico.
>
> "Va" meaning "to go" in Spanish, No Va means literally "it won't go".
>
> Then ther was the decision to name their pickup truck Apache, when a large
> share of their market, Native Americans, were hereditary enemies with that
> tribe.
>
>
> A friend brought me back a bottle of soda from Japan called Karapp...
>
>
> We even got a load of power supplies-I kid you not- from the Fuk Hing
> Electroncs company.
>
>

Hmm.. and the Cheaper End of the Pro Audio market. Pyle Audio. I have
heard it called a "pyle of $#!T"

And for the lawyers.. I have heard that. Not making a statement that it is.

DP

liquidator
February 1st 07, 12:47 AM
"D Parker" .> wrote in message
...
>
> "liquidator" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Eeyore" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>
> >>
> >> Meindert Sprang wrote:
> >>
> >> > "Eeyore" > wrote in message
> >> > > Geoff wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Amps, with the charming brand name of "Bugera" , slogan "The
Soul
> > Of
> >> > > > Valves" .
> >> > > >
> >> > > > http://www.bugera-amps.com/
> >> > >
> >> > > That's a really unfortunate choice of name !
> >> >
> >> > Do tell....
> >>
> >> I dare say the Antipodeans such as Geoff will tend to pronounces it as
> >> 'buggerer'. A man who is the active partner in anal sex ( sodomy /
> > buggery ).
> >>
> >> Graham
> >>
> >
> > There have been a nuber of such marketing disasters.
> >
> > Chevrolet could not figure out why the Nova would not sell in Mexico.
> >
> > "Va" meaning "to go" in Spanish, No Va means literally "it won't go".
> >
> > Then ther was the decision to name their pickup truck Apache, when a
large
> > share of their market, Native Americans, were hereditary enemies with
that
> > tribe.
> >
> >
> > A friend brought me back a bottle of soda from Japan called Karapp...
> >
> >
> > We even got a load of power supplies-I kid you not- from the Fuk Hing
> > Electroncs company.
> >
> >
>
> Hmm.. and the Cheaper End of the Pro Audio market. Pyle Audio. I have
> heard it called a "pyle of $#!T"
>
> And for the lawyers.. I have heard that. Not making a statement that it
is.
>
> DP
>

Pyle at one point made a medium quality product.

Pyle himself was an engineer at Utah. When they went out he changed the name
to Pyle. This is some 30 years ago.The company that exists now just bought
the name out of bankruptcy.

Pyle never was a high end company, but was better than much low end way back
when.

Of course being the best of the worst is hardly a recommendation.

Utah di make some OEM drivers that found theier way into studio monitors.
Mostly LF drivers.



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Ty Ford
February 1st 07, 03:31 AM
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:20:58 -0500, zero wrote
(in article >):

>
> "Eeyore" > wrote in message
> ...
>>> "Eeyore" > wrote in message
>
>>
>> I dare say the Antipodeans such as Geoff will tend to pronounces it as
>> 'buggerer'. A man who is the active partner in anal sex ( sodomy /
>> buggery ).
>
> Would the _active partner_be considered the "pitcher" or the "catcher" or
> is
> buggerer a non-specific team player designation? Antipodeans want to know.
>
> -zero
>
>

buggerer...buggeree, I would suppose.

Regards,

Ty Ford


--Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services
Acting and Voiceover Demos http://www.tyford.com
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Phildo
February 1st 07, 04:03 AM
"Richard Crowley" > wrote in message
...
> "Arny Krueger" wrote ...
>
>> Chevrolet sold a line of cars in Spanish speaking countries named "Nova",
>> easily pronounced as "no va", meaning doesn't go.
>
> Urban legend. http://www.snopes.com/business/misxlate/nova.asp

The toyota MR2 had similar problems in France where the name meant "****ty".

Phildo

February 1st 07, 04:15 AM
In this regard I've always been partial to the early '90s GM "Impact".

Phildo
February 1st 07, 05:16 AM
"liquidator" > wrote in message
...
> We even got a load of power supplies-I kid you not- from the Fuk Hing
> Electroncs company.

Seen in Singapore a couple of weeks ago - http://i9.tinypic.com/2j29ijr.jpg

We also had a waiter called Chin So Fat.

There was also the coke advertising slogan "coke adds life" which went up on
various Chinese billboards mis-translated as "Coke will bring your ancestors
back from the dead".

Phildo

Gareth Magennis
February 1st 07, 11:16 AM
"Laurence Payne" <lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom> wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:52:58 -0000, "Gareth Magennis"
> > wrote:
>
>>I was Googling the other day to find out exactly why it is no longer
>>Politically Correct to use the term "Spastic" for certain disabled
>>persons,
>>and found this within the definition in Wikipedia.
>
> What about "Flid"? Remember that one? Current when I was at school,
> alongside a short generation of Thalidomide victims.


Yes, kids can certainly be very ignorant and cruel, and there was a
Thalidamide 'victim' in my class. The guy had no arms, just a kind of a hand
with 4 fingers, yet there was very little he couldn't do for himself. Most
of the time he/we forgot about his disability, to the point of my own acute
embarrasment one day, when I asked him how many "ferulas" he had had so
far - the school punishment consisting of hard whacks to the hand with a
heavy rubber slab.


Gareth.

Laurence Payne
February 1st 07, 12:02 PM
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 11:16:01 -0000, "Gareth Magennis"
> wrote:

>Yes, kids can certainly be very ignorant and cruel, and there was a
>Thalidamide 'victim' in my class. The guy had no arms, just a kind of a hand
>with 4 fingers, yet there was very little he couldn't do for himself. Most
>of the time he/we forgot about his disability, to the point of my own acute
>embarrasment one day, when I asked him how many "ferulas" he had had so
>far - the school punishment consisting of hard whacks to the hand with a
>heavy rubber slab.

And I bet HE wasn't embarrassed at all. Any more than a blind person
is when you say "See you soon!" :-)

Chris Hornbeck
February 1st 07, 02:47 PM
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:14:06 GMT, Carey Carlan >
wrote:

>> Chevrolet sold a line of cars in Spanish speaking countries named
>> "Nova", easily pronounced as "no va", meaning doesn't go.
>
>How does that compare to the Paseo, Spanish for "walk"

I once had a small motorcycle with Dae Yeung brand tires.

Much thanks, as always,

Chris Hornbeck

Don Pearce
February 1st 07, 02:48 PM
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:47:19 GMT, Chris Hornbeck
> wrote:

>On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:14:06 GMT, Carey Carlan >
>wrote:
>
>>> Chevrolet sold a line of cars in Spanish speaking countries named
>>> "Nova", easily pronounced as "no va", meaning doesn't go.
>>
>>How does that compare to the Paseo, Spanish for "walk"
>
>I once had a small motorcycle with Dae Yeung brand tires.
>
>Much thanks, as always,
>
>Chris Hornbeck

Rolls Royce nearly launched the Silver Mist, until they found out that
in Switzerland, "mist" is what farmers spray on their fields after
they clear out the winter cow sheds.

d

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mcsteve
February 1st 07, 03:03 PM
"Phildo" wrote:
> We also had a waiter called Chin So Fat.
>

How Long is a Chinese name.

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February 1st 07, 03:35 PM
In rec.audio.pro Romeo Rondeau > wrote:
> Arny Krueger wrote:
>> "Richard Crowley" > wrote in message
>>
>>> "Arny Krueger" wrote ...
>>>
>>>> Chevrolet sold a line of cars in Spanish speaking
>>>> countries named "Nova", easily pronounced as "no va",
>>>> meaning doesn't go.
>>> Urban legend.
>>> http://www.snopes.com/business/misxlate/nova.asp
>>
>> Which confirms that Novas were sold in spanish-speaking countries, and that
>> No va indeed means won't go.
>>
>> For irony they use the example of a dining room set branded "notable", which
>> by similar means would come out "no table". Yeah, many English speakers
>> would notice that and smile too.
>>
>> Looks to me like snopes.com is bending over backwards make themselves look
>> weak. ;-)
>
> Actually I read the article and I'm thinking that Snopes is more or less
> taking the position of the car actually selling well, and that part
> being the "urban legend"

Urban legends can be either true or false. Something is an "urban legend if
it circulates widely, is told and re-told with differing details (or exists
in multiple versions), and is said to be true. Whether or not the events
described in the tale ever actually occurred is completely irrelevant to
its classification as an urban legend."

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liquidator
February 1st 07, 06:50 PM
"Markus Mietling" > wrote in message
...
> liquidator wrote in >:
>
> >> > > > http://www.bugera-amps.com/
> >> > >
> >> > > That's a really unfortunate choice of name !
> >
> >There have been a nuber of such marketing disasters.
> >
> >Chevrolet could not figure out why the Nova would not sell in Mexico.
> >
> >"Va" meaning "to go" in Spanish, No Va means literally "it won't go".
>
> Please.
>
> http://www.snopes.com/business/misxlate/nova.asp
>
> --MM

Sorry but in this case snopes is wrong.

GM themselves discussed this problem. Along with several others. The Camaro
was initially to be called the Panther, until they discovered Mercury was
bringing out the Cougar.

Snopes offers that any such would be caught before it happened, and there
are numerous references that just such things HAVE happened. So Snopes whole
argument falls flat on this one.

I was alive back then. I doubt the person who wrote the Snopes article was.



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Geoff
February 1st 07, 09:52 PM
Don Pearce wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:47:19 GMT, Chris Hornbeck
> > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:14:06 GMT, Carey Carlan >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Chevrolet sold a line of cars in Spanish speaking countries named
>>>> "Nova", easily pronounced as "no va", meaning doesn't go.
>>>
>>> How does that compare to the Paseo, Spanish for "walk"
>>
>> I once had a small motorcycle with Dae Yeung brand tires.
>>
>> Much thanks, as always,
>>
>> Chris Hornbeck
>
> Rolls Royce nearly launched the Silver Mist, until they found out that
> in Switzerland, "mist" is what farmers spray on their fields after
> they clear out the winter cow sheds.

I like the Nissan (?) Legnum. You get deep-vein thrombosis on long trips.

And the 'Emina' just sounds scarey !

geoff

Tom Jancauskas
February 1st 07, 10:58 PM
in article , Geoff at
wrote on 2/1/07 3:52 PM:

> I like the Nissan (?) Legnum. You get deep-vein thrombosis on long trips.
>
> And the 'Emina' just sounds scarey !


I thought is was the Nissan Exima...


--
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Geoff
February 1st 07, 11:41 PM
Tom Jancauskas wrote:
> in article , Geoff at
> wrote on 2/1/07 3:52 PM:
>
>> I like the Nissan (?) Legnum. You get deep-vein thrombosis on long
>> trips.
>>
>> And the 'Emina' just sounds scarey !
>
>
> I thought is was the Nissan Exima...

Dunno if the Emina ( a family 'people-mover' wagon) is a Nissan, but
'Exima' doesn't sound that great either !

geoff

Phildo
February 2nd 07, 10:42 AM
"Gareth Magennis" > wrote in message
...
> the school punishment consisting of hard whacks to the hand with a heavy
> rubber slab.

If teachers do that today they get sent to jail for child abuse yet we
wonder why youth crime is at an all time high?

Phildo

John Lamp
February 2nd 07, 12:30 PM
Eeyore wrote:

>
> Meindert Sprang wrote:
>
>
>>"Eeyore" > wrote in message
>>
>>>Geoff wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Amps, with the charming brand name of "Bugera" , slogan "The Soul Of
>>>>Valves" .
>>>>
>>>>http://www.bugera-amps.com/
>>>
>>>That's a really unfortunate choice of name !
>>
>>Do tell....
>
>
> I dare say the Antipodeans such as Geoff will tend to pronounces it as
> 'buggerer'. A man who is the active partner in anal sex ( sodomy / buggery ).

Yeah, but Geoff's a Kiwi ... nuff sed?

Cheers
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Gareth Magennis
February 2nd 07, 12:48 PM
"Geoff" > wrote in message
...
> Tom Jancauskas wrote:
>> in article , Geoff at
>> wrote on 2/1/07 3:52 PM:
>>
>>> I like the Nissan (?) Legnum. You get deep-vein thrombosis on long
>>> trips.
>>>
>>> And the 'Emina' just sounds scarey !
>>
>>
>> I thought is was the Nissan Exima...
>
> Dunno if the Emina ( a family 'people-mover' wagon) is a Nissan, but
> 'Exima' doesn't sound that great either !
>
> geoff
>

In the UK, Ford launched the Ford "Pubic" - it was made out of old Corsairs.
(Course hairs - geddit?)



Sorry about that..


Gareth.

Gareth Magennis
February 2nd 07, 03:27 PM
"Phildo" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Gareth Magennis" > wrote in message
> ...
>> the school punishment consisting of hard whacks to the hand with a heavy
>> rubber slab.
>
> If teachers do that today they get sent to jail for child abuse yet we
> wonder why youth crime is at an all time high?
>
> Phildo
>

You have a point - we were **** scared of our elders cos we knew that if we
did bad things there would be severe consequences! Kids today are also very
informed about what the Police (and public) can and cannot do to them.
Mostly they cannot do things to them.


Gareth.

Geoff
February 3rd 07, 01:46 AM
John Lamp wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
>
>>
>> Meindert Sprang wrote:
>>
>>
>>> "Eeyore" > wrote in message
>>>
>>>> Geoff wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Amps, with the charming brand name of "Bugera" , slogan "The
>>>>> Soul Of Valves" .
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.bugera-amps.com/
>>>>
>>>> That's a really unfortunate choice of name !
>>>
>>> Do tell....
>>
>>
>> I dare say the Antipodeans such as Geoff will tend to pronounces it
>> as 'buggerer'. A man who is the active partner in anal sex ( sodomy
>> / buggery ).
>
> Yeah, but Geoff's a Kiwi ... nuff sed?

Yeah but the yanks would normally add a few redundant syllables and make it
"buggerizator".

Like "gotten' instead of "got", but moreso...

geoff

Jos Geluk
February 3rd 07, 05:04 PM
Arny Krueger schreef:
> "Eeyore" > wrote in
> message
>> Geoff wrote:
>>
>>> Amps, with the charming brand name of "Bugera" , slogan
>>> "The Soul Of Valves" .
>>>
>>> http://www.bugera-amps.com/
>> That's a really unfortunate choice of name !
>
> Chevrolet sold a line of cars in Spanish speaking countries named "Nova",
> easily pronounced as "no va", meaning doesn't go.

Rolls Royce tried to sell a "Silver Mist" in Germany. "Mist" in German
is not something you want to sit in.

Jos.

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www.ardispark.nl

The Spanish Inquisition
February 3rd 07, 06:32 PM
wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 18:10:54 +0100, "Meindert Sprang"
> > wrote:
>
>> "Gareth Magennis" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I was Googling the other day to find out exactly why it is no longer
>>> Politically Correct to use the term "Spastic" for certain disabled
>> persons,
>>> and found this within the definition in Wikipedia.
>>> "............Many products in America use the word Spaz as part of their
>>> name because of the American connotation of energy and excitement.
>> Mmmm.... over here in the Netherlands, Oil of Olaz sells
>> cleaning/moisturizing tissues called "Daily Facial".
>> Makes one wonder.....
>
> What could you possibly mean? My good lady enjoys a daily facial, says
> her skin feels revitalised and my ballsack is emptied, everyone happy.

Hah, that's a typical Dutch misunderstanding. I remember using the word
buddy to a fellow Dutchman once, who thought I was calling him gay. (in
the early day of AIDS, people who took care of the sick called
themselves buddies) He didn't know this (like facial) was a perfectly
normal everyday word.

In case you really don't know what my Dutch buddy meant, check this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_%28disambiguation%29

Note: This is a wikipedia page so anyone could change it anytime. As it
happens it seems to be largely correct like most wikipedia articles to
the utter surprise of the sceptics who have been known to mess things up
themselves just to make a point... ;)

Wikipedia rules, just wait another 10 or 20 years. It will have firmly
established itself as the authoritative knowledge base on the 'net.

Ximinez
--
Our three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...
and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope....
http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/paulfitz/spanish/t1.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gldlyTjXk9A

mcsteve
February 3rd 07, 07:31 PM
"The Spanish Inquisition" wrote:
> Hah, that's a typical Dutch misunderstanding.
>

Oh christ! I didn't expect The Spanish Inquisition!
Nice red uniform there, cardinal.

--
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The Spanish Inquisition
February 3rd 07, 08:54 PM
mcsteve wrote:
> "The Spanish Inquisition" wrote:
>> Hah, that's a typical Dutch misunderstanding.
>
> Oh christ! I didn't expect The Spanish Inquisition!
> Nice red uniform there, cardinal.

Nobody...

Oh, forget it.

Ximinez
--
Our three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...
and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope....
http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/paulfitz/spanish/t1.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gldlyTjXk9A

Scott Dorsey
February 3rd 07, 09:20 PM
mcsteve > wrote:
>"The Spanish Inquisition" wrote:
>> Hah, that's a typical Dutch misunderstanding.
>
>Oh christ! I didn't expect The Spanish Inquisition!
>Nice red uniform there, cardinal.

NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition. Their chief weapons are fear,
surprise, and these really spitty-sounding dome tweeters.
--scott

--
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John Lamp
February 3rd 07, 11:02 PM
Geoff wrote:
> John Lamp wrote:
>
>>Eeyore wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Meindert Sprang wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Eeyore" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Geoff wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Amps, with the charming brand name of "Bugera" , slogan "The
>>>>>>Soul Of Valves" .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.bugera-amps.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>That's a really unfortunate choice of name !
>>>>
>>>>Do tell....
>>>
>>>
>>>I dare say the Antipodeans such as Geoff will tend to pronounces it
>>>as 'buggerer'. A man who is the active partner in anal sex ( sodomy
>>>/ buggery ).
>>
>>Yeah, but Geoff's a Kiwi ... nuff sed?
>
>
> Yeah but the yanks would normally add a few redundant syllables and make it
> "buggerizator".
>
> Like "gotten' instead of "got", but moreso...

enhancementwise ... :)

Cheers
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Mark & Mary Ann Weiss
February 5th 07, 07:07 AM
"Richard Crowley" > wrote in message
...
> "Arny Krueger" wrote ...
>
> > Chevrolet sold a line of cars in Spanish speaking countries named
"Nova",
> > easily pronounced as "no va", meaning doesn't go.
>
> Urban legend. http://www.snopes.com/business/misxlate/nova.asp


Funny. When I was taking business marketing as a higher ed non-metriculated
college course while working as an electronics tech in the daytime, the
professor teaching the course cited this very example as part of a
discussion on names in marketing. It was in our textbooks, in fact, because
I recall reading it there as well. "The car's name was chaged to 'Carribe'
and it sold very well after that." ..so went on with the textbook...


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Eeyore
February 5th 07, 07:28 AM
Mark & Mary Ann Weiss wrote:

> "Richard Crowley" > wrote
> > "Arny Krueger" wrote ...
> >
> > > Chevrolet sold a line of cars in Spanish speaking countries named
> > >"Nova", easily pronounced as "no va", meaning doesn't go.
> >
> > Urban legend. http://www.snopes.com/business/misxlate/nova.asp
>
> Funny. When I was taking business marketing as a higher ed non-metriculated
> college course while working as an electronics tech in the daytime, the
> professor teaching the course cited this very example as part of a
> discussion on names in marketing. It was in our textbooks, in fact, because
> I recall reading it there as well. "The car's name was chaged to 'Carribe'
> and it sold very well after that." ..so went on with the textbook...

I forget which car it is but I recall there was some European car whose name in
Chinese meant horse poo or similar.

It didn't sell too well either.

In an amusing move Shanghai Auto who bought the remnants of the Rover company
but not the name, are to relaunch the cars in China as Roewe ! Sort of Rowver.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/02/05/wrover05.xml

The badge is just so kitsch though.

Graham

Tim S Kemp
February 5th 07, 08:12 AM
Geoff > wrote:
> John Lamp wrote:
>> Eeyore wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Meindert Sprang wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Eeyore" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> Geoff wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Amps, with the charming brand name of "Bugera" , slogan "The
>>>>>> Soul Of Valves" .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.bugera-amps.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a really unfortunate choice of name !
>>>>
>>>> Do tell....
>>>
>>>
>>> I dare say the Antipodeans such as Geoff will tend to pronounces it
>>> as 'buggerer'. A man who is the active partner in anal sex ( sodomy
>>> / buggery ).
>>
>> Yeah, but Geoff's a Kiwi ... nuff sed?
>
> Yeah but the yanks would normally add a few redundant syllables and
> make it "buggerizator".
>
> Like "gotten' instead of "got", but moreso...
>
> geoff

Or the opposite problem - acclimate instead of acclimatise.


--
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Tim S Kemp
February 5th 07, 08:13 AM
Eeyore > wrote:

> I forget which car it is but I recall there was some European car
> whose name in Chinese meant horse poo or similar.
>
> It didn't sell too well either.

Mitsubishi used to make a van called the T box.


--
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Eeyore
February 5th 07, 08:18 AM
Tim S Kemp wrote:

> Eeyore > wrote:
>
> > I forget which car it is but I recall there was some European car
> > whose name in Chinese meant horse poo or similar.
> >
> > It didn't sell too well either.
>
> Mitsubishi used to make a van called the T box.

Toyota's Hi Ace always amused me.

Graham

jakdedert
February 20th 07, 09:44 PM
Phildo wrote:
> "Gareth Magennis" > wrote in message
> ...
>> the school punishment consisting of hard whacks to the hand with a heavy
>> rubber slab.
>
> If teachers do that today they get sent to jail for child abuse yet we
> wonder why youth crime is at an all time high?
>
> Phildo
>
>
>
I think if you search a cite for your blanket statement above, you'll
find little support beyond NewsMax....

In fact, according to
<http://www.ncjrs.gov/html/ojjdp/216251/chap2.html#a> in the US, at
least: 'Between 1960 and 2002, juvenile court delinquency caseloads
increased nearly 300%; in the last 5 years, caseloads have declined 8%'

Turn off Fox News and read something besides National Enquirer.

jak