Log in

View Full Version : Makers of touch style radios?


Deke
January 29th 07, 05:03 AM
Do any manufacturers of car audio units make non-menu driven head units? My
Chrysler Infinity Gold unit is giving out, and its been rebuilt once, and
has gone with me thru two Chrysler cars.
I want to be able to adjust everything by touch (equalizer, balance,
track, etc) without having to search through menus shown on a tiny display,
adjusted by pushing tiny buttons, at
70 miles an hour.
TIA.

D

--
"...if by a liberal they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind,
someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares
about the welfare of the people- their health, their housing, their schools,
their jobs, their civil rights, their civil liberties.. if that is what they
mean by a "liberal" then I am proud to be a liberal. ": John F. Kennedy

D.Kreft
January 29th 07, 06:53 AM
On Jan 28, 9:03 pm, "Deke" <no > wrote:

> I want to be able to adjust everything by touch (equalizer, balance,
> track, etc) without having to search through menus shown on a tiny display,
> adjusted by pushing tiny buttons, at
> 70 miles an hour.

Ugh. I can't believe you *want* this. Touch screens in moving vehicles
is *THE* single worst design descision an electronics manufacturer (or
a consumer, for that matter) could possibly make. It makes about as
much sense as putting braille on a drive-through ATM or a screen door
on a submarine.

Think about it--you're going down the road at 70+ mph and you want to
adjust the bass level on your head unit. What do you do? By design,
you *have* to take your eyes off the road, find the section of the
screen to tap, recognize the results and then tap, tap, tap to make
the adjustments. For every second you take your eyes off the road at
70 mph, you travel nearly 103 feet. This is *not* a good thing.

The best possible design of a head unit is one that has big buttons
that have differing contours and textures on each button so that it
can be completely manipulated with your eyes closed. Do yourself, and
everyone else on the road a HUGE favor and seek out such a head unit.
If you can't operate it with your eyes closed, it's a danger to you
and everyone around you....unless, of course, you only make system
adjustments while parked or otherwise stopped.

-dan

Barry & Nikki
February 4th 07, 09:34 AM
I think the best thing ever included with most stereos today are the
remotes. You can remember the location of each button that does what you
want and just push away without ever having to look away from the road. I
know its not too safe driving down the road at 120 with one hand on the
wheel and a remote in the other but at least I am not reading the newspaper.


"D.Kreft" > wrote in message
ps.com...
> On Jan 28, 9:03 pm, "Deke" <no > wrote:
>
> > I want to be able to adjust everything by touch (equalizer, balance,
> > track, etc) without having to search through menus shown on a tiny
display,
> > adjusted by pushing tiny buttons, at
> > 70 miles an hour.
>
> Ugh. I can't believe you *want* this. Touch screens in moving vehicles
> is *THE* single worst design descision an electronics manufacturer (or
> a consumer, for that matter) could possibly make. It makes about as
> much sense as putting braille on a drive-through ATM or a screen door
> on a submarine.
>
> Think about it--you're going down the road at 70+ mph and you want to
> adjust the bass level on your head unit. What do you do? By design,
> you *have* to take your eyes off the road, find the section of the
> screen to tap, recognize the results and then tap, tap, tap to make
> the adjustments. For every second you take your eyes off the road at
> 70 mph, you travel nearly 103 feet. This is *not* a good thing.
>
> The best possible design of a head unit is one that has big buttons
> that have differing contours and textures on each button so that it
> can be completely manipulated with your eyes closed. Do yourself, and
> everyone else on the road a HUGE favor and seek out such a head unit.
> If you can't operate it with your eyes closed, it's a danger to you
> and everyone around you....unless, of course, you only make system
> adjustments while parked or otherwise stopped.
>
> -dan
>

Deke
February 6th 07, 01:42 PM
"D.Kreft" > wrote in message
ps.com...
> On Jan 28, 9:03 pm, "Deke" <no > wrote:
>
> > I want to be able to adjust everything by touch (equalizer, balance,
> > track, etc) without having to search through menus shown on a tiny
display,
> > adjusted by pushing tiny buttons, at
> > 70 miles an hour.
>
> Ugh. I can't believe you *want* this. Touch screens in moving vehicles
> is *THE* single worst design descision an electronics manufacturer (or
> a consumer, for that matter) could possibly make. It makes about as
> much sense as putting braille on a drive-through ATM or a screen door
> on a submarine.
>
> Think about it--you're going down the road at 70+ mph and you want to
> adjust the bass level on your head unit. What do you do? By design,
> you *have* to take your eyes off the road, find the section of the
> screen to tap, recognize the results and then tap, tap, tap to make
> the adjustments. For every second you take your eyes off the road at
> 70 mph, you travel nearly 103 feet. This is *not* a good thing.
>
> The best possible design of a head unit is one that has big buttons
> that have differing contours and textures on each button so that it
> can be completely manipulated with your eyes closed. Do yourself, and
> everyone else on the road a HUGE favor and seek out such a head unit.
> If you can't operate it with your eyes closed, it's a danger to you
> and everyone around you....unless, of course, you only make system
> adjustments while parked or otherwise stopped.
>
> -dan
>
Danm, did you even read my post? A head unit, like my Chrysler OEM unit is
what I'm looking for. NON-menu driven. PHYSICAL controls for equalizer, or
balance.
Read before you rant.

Deke

Deke
February 6th 07, 01:48 PM
"D.Kreft" > wrote in message
ps.com...
> On Jan 28, 9:03 pm, "Deke" <no > wrote:
>
> > I want to be able to adjust everything by touch (equalizer, balance,
> > track, etc) without having to search through menus shown on a tiny
display,
> > adjusted by pushing tiny buttons, at
> > 70 miles an hour.
>
> Ugh. I can't believe you *want* this. Touch screens in moving vehicles
> is *THE* single worst design descision an electronics manufacturer (or
> a consumer, for that matter) could possibly make. It makes about as
> much sense as putting braille on a drive-through ATM or a screen door
> on a submarine.
>
> Think about it--you're going down the road at 70+ mph and you want to
> adjust the bass level on your head unit. What do you do? By design,
> you *have* to take your eyes off the road, find the section of the
> screen to tap, recognize the results and then tap, tap, tap to make
> the adjustments. For every second you take your eyes off the road at
> 70 mph, you travel nearly 103 feet. This is *not* a good thing.
>
> The best possible design of a head unit is one that has big buttons
> that have differing contours and textures on each button so that it
> can be completely manipulated with your eyes closed. Do yourself, and
> everyone else on the road a HUGE favor and seek out such a head unit.
> If you can't operate it with your eyes closed, it's a danger to you
> and everyone around you....unless, of course, you only make system
> adjustments while parked or otherwise stopped.
>
> -dan
>

By the way, this is like what I'm using now. Its been rebuilt twice, still
works, but I thought there might something new on the market that was
similar. No menus. Touch, physical Controls.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mopar-Dodge-Chrysler-AM-FM-CD-Radio-Stereo-Infinity_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ38641QQihZ004Q QitemZ140080845927QQrdZ1

John
February 6th 07, 01:51 PM
Nobody really makes those for aftermarket use, just factory replacement.
Oem mfg companies make them to go in as stock head units, they're cheap
(you can get one for even less than that ebay link), so go buy another
one if you like it so much or find another factory head unit!

Note, have controls like that make the unit extremely prone to dust,
dirt, and worse for wear...Dust in your faders = that wonderful
crackling noise...

I'll take a digital menu from one button over a bunch of analog-style
faders and controls any day...

Get with modern times...


--
John

Deke
February 7th 07, 04:43 AM
"John" > wrote in message
...
>
> Nobody really makes those for aftermarket use, just factory replacement.
> Oem mfg companies make them to go in as stock head units, they're cheap
> (you can get one for even less than that ebay link), so go buy another
> one if you like it so much or find another factory head unit!
>
> Note, have controls like that make the unit extremely prone to dust,
> dirt, and worse for wear...Dust in your faders = that wonderful
> crackling noise...
>
> I'll take a digital menu from one button over a bunch of analog-style
> faders and controls any day...
>
> Get with modern times...
>
>
> --
> John

Your opinion has been noted, and ignored.

D.Kreft
February 7th 07, 05:25 AM
On Feb 6, 8:43 pm, "Deke" <no > wrote:

> Your opinion has been noted, and ignored.

And with an attitude like that, I'm sure that any future posts you
make to this newsgroup are likely to be ignored as well.

-dan

Mariachi
February 7th 07, 01:03 PM
On Feb 6, 11:43 pm, "Deke" <no > wrote:
> "John" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Nobody really makes those for aftermarket use, just factory replacement.
> > Oem mfg companies make them to go in as stock head units, they're cheap
> > (you can get one for even less than that ebay link), so go buy another
> > one if you like it so much or find another factory head unit!
>
> > Note, have controls like that make the unit extremely prone to dust,
> > dirt, and worse for wear...Dust in your faders = that wonderful
> > crackling noise...
>
> > I'll take a digital menu from one button over a bunch of analog-style
> > faders and controls any day...
>
> > Get with modern times...
>
> > --
> > John
>
> Your opinion has been noted, and ignored.

why would you use such a piece of crap? Go get a real head unit for
pete's sake... i would rather have a crappy touch screen than that
piece of doodoo. Why do you want a stock unit? Most stock units have
crap sound quality, get one that actually is worth the money.