Adding Artist Info to My Songs

[gnosticbeast]

Hi All,

This is probably a dumb question, but:

How do I add info to each of my songs, to get them ready for final
production- such as Artist Name, Album, Genre, Year, Track Number,
etc.

For songs that I've ripped from CD's, I can right click in Windows and
edit the Advanced Summary, and edit each field. But for the songs that
I've rendered into 16bit WAV's, I cannot change any info, and nothing
really shows up but the bit and sample rates??

Thanks for the help.

Paul

[Laurence Payne]

On 27 Jan 2007 23:20:54 -0800, "gnosticbeast"
> wrote:

>How do I add info to each of my songs, to get them ready for final
>production- such as Artist Name, Album, Genre, Year, Track Number,
>etc.
>
>For songs that I've ripped from CD's, I can right click in Windows and
>edit the Advanced Summary, and edit each field. But for the songs that
>I've rendered into 16bit WAV's, I cannot change any info, and nothing
>really shows up but the bit and sample rates??

Isn't that a MP3 thing?

[Arny Krueger]

"Laurence Payne" <lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom> wrote in
message
> On 27 Jan 2007 23:20:54 -0800, "gnosticbeast"
> > wrote:
>
>> How do I add info to each of my songs, to get them ready
>> for final production- such as Artist Name, Album, Genre,
>> Year, Track Number, etc.
>>
>> For songs that I've ripped from CD's, I can right click
>> in Windows and edit the Advanced Summary, and edit each
>> field. But for the songs that I've rendered into 16bit
>> WAV's, I cannot change any info, and nothing really
>> shows up but the bit and sample rates??
>
> Isn't that a MP3 thing?

There's space in .wav files for this sort of info,too. You can add it with
Auditon/CEP for example.

[Scott Dorsey]

gnosticbeast > wrote:
>This is probably a dumb question, but:
>
>How do I add info to each of my songs, to get them ready for final
>production- such as Artist Name, Album, Genre, Year, Track Number,
>etc.

You don't. You only put an identifier on the disc, and then register the
information with the CDDB.

>For songs that I've ripped from CD's, I can right click in Windows and
>edit the Advanced Summary, and edit each field. But for the songs that
>I've rendered into 16bit WAV's, I cannot change any info, and nothing
>really shows up but the bit and sample rates??

That information is coming off the CDDB.
--scott

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[gnosticbeast]

>On Jan 28, 5:33 am, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
>You don't. You only put an identifier on the disc, and then register the
>information with the CDDB.
>That information is coming off the CDDB.

Thanks Scott. I'm assuming that a professional publisher would add
this info to the disk? I've tried it using NERO- adding artist name
and album name. But the burned disk still is "unknown" in Windows
Media Player.

Paul

[Scott Dorsey]

gnosticbeast > wrote:
>
>Thanks Scott. I'm assuming that a professional publisher would add
>this info to the disk? I've tried it using NERO- adding artist name
>and album name. But the burned disk still is "unknown" in Windows
>Media Player.

No, the info from Windows Media player is not coming from the disc.
It's coming from CDDB.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Deputy Dumbya Dawg]

Use Feurio (free download) and the title info typed
into the program will come off the disk and display on
windows media player and most of the new CD players in
rental cars. This info is on the disk.

I know the info displayed is not coming from CDDB
because the disks I put in the players are " one of"
with my own cryptic names and the cars are not internet
connected.

Wavelab tells us it has the same capability but when I
program it as specified the disks do not display the
info when I put them in windows media player or the CD
players in rental cars that display the info from
Feurio. But Wavelab does tell me it can read the names.

peace
dawg


"Scott Dorsey" > wrote in message
...
: gnosticbeast > wrote:
: >
: >Thanks Scott. I'm assuming that a professional
publisher would add
: >this info to the disk? I've tried it using NERO-
adding artist name
: >and album name. But the burned disk still is
"unknown" in Windows
: >Media Player.
:
: No, the info from Windows Media player is not coming
from the disc.
: It's coming from CDDB.
: --scott
: --
: "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres
precis."

[Scott Dorsey]

Deputy Dumbya Dawg > wrote:
>Use Feurio (free download) and the title info typed
>into the program will come off the disk and display on
>windows media player and most of the new CD players in
>rental cars. This info is on the disk.

What you see in WMP is most likely off the CDDB. What you are seeing
on new CD players in rental cars would be off the CD-T volume. Try
it with an older CD that doesn't have CD-T data.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Deputy Dumbya Dawg]

"Scott Dorsey" > wrote in message
...
: Deputy Dumbya Dawg
> wrote:
: >Use Feurio (free download) and the title info typed
: >into the program will come off the disk and display
on
: >windows media player and most of the new CD players
in
: >rental cars. This info is on the disk.
:
: What you see in WMP is most likely off the CDDB.

If I program and burn and original home brew disk with
original music and original cryptic titles and then put
it into WMP on another machine, how could the titles be
coming from the CDDB?

peace
Dawg

[Scott Dorsey]

Deputy Dumbya Dawg > wrote:
>
>If I program and burn and original home brew disk with
>original music and original cryptic titles and then put
>it into WMP on another machine, how could the titles be
>coming from the CDDB?

That isn't. But WMP will try the CDDB, and that is where most of the
information comes from.

Put in an old CD from 1985 that was made on a 1610, and you'll see the
information pop right up. And it's not coming off the disk in that case.

Do you have a CD-T volume on the disk you created?
--scott

--
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[Deputy Dumbya Dawg]

"Scott Dorsey" > wrote in message
...

:
: Do you have a CD-T volume on the disk you created?
: --scott

No idea whatsoever. I believe you are the first to
mention that nomenclature to me.


peace
dawg

[Arny Krueger]

"Deputy Dumbya Dawg" >
wrote in message
hlink.net
> "Scott Dorsey" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Deputy Dumbya Dawg
> > wrote:
>>> Use Feurio (free download) and the title info typed
>>> into the program will come off the disk and display on
>>> windows media player and most of the new CD players in
>>> rental cars. This info is on the disk.
>>
>> What you see in WMP is most likely off the CDDB.
>
> If I program and burn and original home brew disk with
> original music and original cryptic titles and then put
> it into WMP on another machine, how could the titles be
> coming from the CDDB?

WMP on that machine can automagically access the CDDB via the web.

[Deputy Dumbya Dawg]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message : >
If I program and burn and original home brew disk with
: > original music and original cryptic titles and then
put
: > it into WMP on another machine, how could the
titles be
: > coming from the CDDB?
:
: WMP on that machine can automagically access the CDDB
via the web.

Come on ARny, I program an original CD-R on one
computer, my songs my names and you think if I put the
disk in another computer the other machine can get the
titles from the CDDB? How would the titles be in the
CDDB if I just programmed them with Feurio? Please do
not be rediculous.


peace
dawg
:
:

[Arny Krueger]

"Deputy Dumbya Dawg" >
wrote in message
link.net
> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message : >
> If I program and burn and original home brew disk with
>>> original music and original cryptic titles and then put
>>> it into WMP on another machine, how could the titles be
>>> coming from the CDDB?
>>
>> WMP on that machine can automagically access the CDDB
>> via the web.
>
> Come on ARny, I program an original CD-R on one
> computer, my songs my names and you think if I put the
> disk in another computer the other machine can get the
> titles from the CDDB? How would the titles be in the
> CDDB if I just programmed them with Feurio? Please do
> not be rediculous.

I didn't read your post well enough before responding. My apologies.

[Cornelius]

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 22:31:41 GMT, "Deputy Dumbya Dawg"
> wrote:

>
>"Scott Dorsey" > wrote in message
...
>
>:
>: Do you have a CD-T volume on the disk you created?
>: --scott
>
>No idea whatsoever. I believe you are the first to
>mention that nomenclature to me.
>
>
>peace
>dawg
>
Perhaps Scott is referring to CD-Text, which Nero can burn on any
audio CD. All you have to do is enable it in the Properties function
and you can type anything you want as artist and song titles. I'm not
sure if WMP picks this up or not, but many newer car CD players do and
the Pioneer CD changers I have do. Just MHO.

[Ty Ford]

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:53:32 -0500, Arny Krueger wrote
(in article >):

> "Deputy Dumbya Dawg" >
> wrote in message
> link.net
>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message : >
>> If I program and burn and original home brew disk with
>>>> original music and original cryptic titles and then put
>>>> it into WMP on another machine, how could the titles be
>>>> coming from the CDDB?
>>>
>>> WMP on that machine can automagically access the CDDB
>>> via the web.
>>
>> Come on ARny, I program an original CD-R on one
>> computer, my songs my names and you think if I put the
>> disk in another computer the other machine can get the
>> titles from the CDDB? How would the titles be in the
>> CDDB if I just programmed them with Feurio? Please do
>> not be rediculous.
>
> I didn't read your post well enough before responding. My apologies.
>
>

But it does know your hat size and that you like beer.

Regards,

Ty Ford


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[gnosticbeast]

On Jan 29, 7:59 pm, Cornelius >
wrote:
>
> Perhaps Scott is referring to CD-Text, which Nero can burn on any
> audio CD. All you have to do is enable it in the Properties function
> and you can type anything you want as artist and song titles. I'm not
> sure if WMP picks this up or not, but many newer car CD players do and
> the Pioneer CD changers I have do. Just MHO.

Ok, I've learned a little more about this since my orginal post
(unfortunately, not much from this forum). I use Nero, I add Artist
and Album info straight to the disk. This will allow me to pop my
homemade CD-r into my car stereo and see Artist and Album text. The
song Titles come straight from the WAVE that was burned to the disk.

Reading the Disk with a computer media player is different. Even tho
I've got Artist, Album and Song info BURNED to the disk, WMP DOES NOT
recognize that info. Either I manually edit all the fields, OR it
pulls from the CDDB.

Now once you either manually edit or get the info from the CDDB, WMP
will recognize the disk anytime you insert it into that same computer.
If I make a second copy of my disk using the same exact configuration,
WMP "should" recognize that disk as well (substitute WMP for any
computer media player)

That's it.

Now my problem is getting my info TO the CDDB. Using ITunes, I edit
the info manually and do a Submit command from the ITunes menu. This
sends info to Gracenote (new name of the CDDB) using CDDB2. After 3
days, I search Gracenote for my stuff, and it ain't there, and WMP
can't find it either. Does anyone else have any experience submitting
stuff to CDDB?

Paul

[Jay Kadis]

In article om>,
"gnosticbeast" > wrote:

[snip]

> Now my problem is getting my info TO the CDDB. Using ITunes, I edit
> the info manually and do a Submit command from the ITunes menu. This
> sends info to Gracenote (new name of the CDDB) using CDDB2. After 3
> days, I search Gracenote for my stuff, and it ain't there, and WMP
> can't find it either. Does anyone else have any experience submitting
> stuff to CDDB?
>
> Paul

Just did it a couple of weeks ago and it worked fine. Gracenote's
search seems broken, however. Have you tried putting your CD in another
computer and testing iTunes CDDB search? That seems to work for me even
though none of my albums show up in Gracenote's search.

-Jay

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[Scott Dorsey]

gnosticbeast > wrote:
>On Jan 29, 7:59 pm, Cornelius >
>wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps Scott is referring to CD-Text, which Nero can burn on any
>> audio CD. All you have to do is enable it in the Properties function
>> and you can type anything you want as artist and song titles. I'm not
>> sure if WMP picks this up or not, but many newer car CD players do and
>> the Pioneer CD changers I have do. Just MHO.
>
>Ok, I've learned a little more about this since my orginal post
>(unfortunately, not much from this forum). I use Nero, I add Artist
>and Album info straight to the disk. This will allow me to pop my
>homemade CD-r into my car stereo and see Artist and Album text. The
>song Titles come straight from the WAVE that was burned to the disk.

Yes, this is from the CD-T volume on the disc. If you are pressing CDs,
dealing with CD-T at a lot of plants is a pain in the neck so you will
not find it is very common.

>Reading the Disk with a computer media player is different. Even tho
>I've got Artist, Album and Song info BURNED to the disk, WMP DOES NOT
>recognize that info. Either I manually edit all the fields, OR it
>pulls from the CDDB.

Right.

>Now once you either manually edit or get the info from the CDDB, WMP
>will recognize the disk anytime you insert it into that same computer.
>If I make a second copy of my disk using the same exact configuration,
>WMP "should" recognize that disk as well (substitute WMP for any
>computer media player)

Right. And if you have unique ISRC data on your disc, you can submit to
CDDB as well.

>Now my problem is getting my info TO the CDDB. Using ITunes, I edit
>the info manually and do a Submit command from the ITunes menu. This
>sends info to Gracenote (new name of the CDDB) using CDDB2. After 3
>days, I search Gracenote for my stuff, and it ain't there, and WMP
>can't find it either. Does anyone else have any experience submitting
>stuff to CDDB?

You may not have a unique identifier that CDDB can index your disc to.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Peter Larsen]

Deputy Dumbya Dawg wrote:

> Use Feurio (free download)

It is shareware. It is also very good and very modestly priced.

> I know the info displayed is not coming from CDDB
> because the disks I put in the players are " one of"
> with my own cryptic names and the cars are not internet
> connected.

Read up on CD-text. Windows Media Player, in the incarnations I am
familiar with, does not know about CD text, it will ask some media
server, possibly microsoft specific, if it knows about the disk and go
by what it tells it about it. As for why WMP does not know anything
about CD-text ... dunno, seems utterly incompentent to me.


Regards

Peter Larsen