Audio Audition - clicking and popping?

[rm]

Hi, I have a number of cassette tapes of spoken word that I'd like to record
to my XP PC. I have a cable from Radio Shack and a Yamaha cassette deck
player. The tapes sound fine when played via Audition. But once the
recording is saved to stereo, MP3, the playback hasa clicking and popping
sound every 15 seconds or so.

Any suggestions are very much appreciated.

Thank you for your help.

[Arny Krueger]

"rm" > wrote in message

> Hi, I have a number of cassette tapes of spoken word that
> I'd like to record to my XP PC. I have a cable from
> Radio Shack and a Yamaha cassette deck player. The tapes
> sound fine when played via Audition. But once the
> recording is saved to stereo, MP3, the playback hasa clicking and popping
> sound every 15 seconds or so.

That's not an inherent fault of Audition - IME what you hear is what you
get.

> Any suggestions are very much appreciated.

Suspect the playback device that clicks and pops. Try another one.

[rm]

The playback device being used is the PC. Since the cassettes play via
Audition w/o clicking and popping on the PC, during recording, something is
happening when the file gets saved and is played back as mp3 via Windows
Media Player. WMP plays CDs without errors.

Please advise, thanks.


"rm" > wrote in message
...
> Hi, I have a number of cassette tapes of spoken word that I'd like to
> record to my XP PC. I have a cable from Radio Shack and a Yamaha cassette
> deck player. The tapes sound fine when played via Audition. But once the
> recording is saved to stereo, MP3, the playback hasa clicking and popping
> sound every 15 seconds or so.
>
> Any suggestions are very much appreciated.
>
> Thank you for your help.
>

[Laurence Payne]

On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 10:42:31 -0500, "rm" >
wrote:

>The playback device being used is the PC. Since the cassettes play via
>Audition w/o clicking and popping on the PC, during recording, something is
>happening when the file gets saved and is played back as mp3 via Windows
>Media Player. WMP plays CDs without errors.
>
>Please advise, thanks.

During recording, you're just looping the input signal back out to the
monitor speakers. You aren't hearing the recorded file.

Clicks and pops are often a symptom of an overloaded input while
recording. Remember YOU must present the right level to your
computer's input. Controls in Audition cannot correct input overload.

[rm]

Aha. So how does one go about correcting an overload? :)


"Laurence Payne" <lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom> wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 10:42:31 -0500, "rm" >
> wrote:
>
>>The playback device being used is the PC. Since the cassettes play via
>>Audition w/o clicking and popping on the PC, during recording, something
>>is
>>happening when the file gets saved and is played back as mp3 via Windows
>>Media Player. WMP plays CDs without errors.
>>
>>Please advise, thanks.
>
> During recording, you're just looping the input signal back out to the
> monitor speakers. You aren't hearing the recorded file.
>
> Clicks and pops are often a symptom of an overloaded input while
> recording. Remember YOU must present the right level to your
> computer's input. Controls in Audition cannot correct input overload.
>

[Scott Smith]

Turn the output volume down.

"rm" > wrote in message
...
> Aha. So how does one go about correcting an overload? :)
>
>
> "Laurence Payne" <lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom> wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 10:42:31 -0500, "rm" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>The playback device being used is the PC. Since the cassettes play via
>>>Audition w/o clicking and popping on the PC, during recording, something
>>>is
>>>happening when the file gets saved and is played back as mp3 via Windows
>>>Media Player. WMP plays CDs without errors.
>>>
>>>Please advise, thanks.
>>
>> During recording, you're just looping the input signal back out to the
>> monitor speakers. You aren't hearing the recorded file.
>>
>> Clicks and pops are often a symptom of an overloaded input while
>> recording. Remember YOU must present the right level to your
>> computer's input. Controls in Audition cannot correct input overload.
>>
>
>

[Richard Crowley]

"rm" > wrote in message
...
> Hi, I have a number of cassette tapes of spoken word that I'd like to
> record to my XP PC. I have a cable from Radio Shack and a Yamaha cassette
> deck player. The tapes sound fine when played via Audition. But once the
> recording is saved to stereo, MP3, the playback hasa clicking and popping
> sound every 15 seconds or so.


If what you are calling "clicking and popping" is a result of
clipping, then just turn down the record level (volume). You
can identify this as the case because it happens on loud
syllables, etc.

OTOH, it might be a problem with the encoding of the MP3.
Can you play the MP3 on some other device to see if the
noise happens at the same place? That would indicate that
it is recorded into the file. You could try recording to WAV
and use some external application to convert to MP3 or AAC,
etc. I like Easy CD-DA.

[Peter Larsen]

rm wrote:

> Hi, I have a number of cassette tapes of spoken word that I'd
> like to record to my XP PC.

Ah, what pc might it be, I have seen XP installed on a 2 gigabyte disk
on a p2-300 with 64 megs of ram. It did not even crawl, at least not
with 170 megs disk space free after the owner had installed Office. I
did not troubleshoot that installation, I shot it, then added ram and a
faster, bigger disk to the box and re-installed.

> I have a cable from Radio Shack and a Yamaha cassette deck
> player. The tapes sound fine when played via Audition.

OK, recording works fine.

> But once the recording is saved to stereo

Are these recordings stereophonic?

> MP3, the playback hasa clicking and popping
> sound every 15 seconds or so.

On what playback device? - do they sound OK if loaded back into audition
and played from it?

> Any suggestions are very much appreciated.

Not directly related, but you should leave at least a dB, preferably 2,
of headroom to allow for the known overshoot in mp3 encode-decode

> Thank you for your help.


Regards

Peter Larsen

[Arny Krueger]

"Peter Larsen" > wrote in
message
> rm wrote:
>
>> Hi, I have a number of cassette tapes of spoken word
>> that I'd like to record to my XP PC.
>
> Ah, what pc might it be, I have seen XP installed on a 2
> gigabyte disk on a p2-300 with 64 megs of ram. It did not
> even crawl, at least not with 170 megs disk space free
> after the owner had installed Office. I did not
> troubleshoot that installation, I shot it, then added ram
> and a faster, bigger disk to the box and re-installed.

Why bother re-installing?

[Peter Larsen]

Arny Krueger wrote:

>> Ah, what pc might it be, I have seen XP installed on a 2
>> gigabyte disk on a p2-300 with 64 megs of ram. It did not
>> even crawl, at least not with 170 megs disk space free
>> after the owner had installed Office. I did not
>> troubleshoot that installation, I shot it, then added ram
>> and a faster, bigger disk to the box and re-installed.

> Why bother re-installing?

Because it can come in handy as audio file server at our recordist club.
All it needs is a USB 2.0 card. I happened to have 128 megs ECC ram to
supplement its 64 megs of ECC and it then became a real nice machine.


Regards

Peter Larsen

[Richard Crowley]

"Peter Larsen" wrote ...
> rm wrote:
>> I have a cable from Radio Shack and a Yamaha cassette deck
>> player. The tapes sound fine when played via Audition.
>
> OK, recording works fine.
>
>> But once the recording is saved to stereo
>
> Are these recordings stereophonic?

Indeed. Perhaps we should start back at what is trying
to be accomplished here. We might be able to identify
a wrong assumption, etc.

[Peter Larsen]

: wrote and horse the before cart the put rm

/* fixing it for legibility */

>> Hi, I have a number of cassette tapes of spoken word that I'd
>> like to record to my XP PC. I have a cable from Radio Shack
>> and a Yamaha cassette deck player. The tapes sound fine when
>> played via Audition.

This reads to the casual reader to mean that the playback sounds OK.

>> But once the recording is saved to stereo, MP3, the playback has
>> a clicking and popping sound every 15 seconds or so.

>> Any suggestions are very much appreciated.

PC is an undefined variable. Does this PC have on board graphics of the
shareem type? - if so, then you need to get a real graphics card,
because your machine may be out of dma bandwidth every time the record
buffer is saved to disk because of bandwidth used by the video. However
you may be able to get aaway with disabling all screen rendering of
curve-form during recording.

> The playback device being used is the PC. Since the cassettes
> play via Audition w/o clicking and popping on the PC,

Audition is also an undefined variable, but you only have record
monitoring in 2.0. Disable that too and monitor via the sound card.

> during recording, something is happening when the file gets
> saved and is played back as mp3 via Windows
> Media Player.

Here is the procedure: first you record, then you save, then you process
if relevant and finally you convert to mp3, IF relevant.

> WMP plays CDs without errors.

> Please advise, thanks.

Try line in recording via Audiograbber.

There are not many advantages in saving to stereo as final format if the
tapes are in fact mono, but you should record to stereo anyway and then
select the best sounding track or sum them to mono, whichever works
best.

> > Thank you for your help.


Regards

Peter Larsen