I think Hillary needs some help with this track! Very Funny

[Danny T]

She starts to sing about 1/2 way through. She didn't know her mic was
on :-) Bad lesson to learn the hard way!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfZ_gXCHaMw

[[email protected]]

That was painful to watch. I don't dislike her more than I do any
other polititian in particular, but man, that was a bad call going for
that one.

[Danny T]

On Jan 27, 5:50 pm, wrote:
> That was painful to watch. I don't dislike her more than I do any
> other polititian in particular, but man, that was a bad call going for
> that one.

I give her praise for getting the words right:-) I don't like anyone
that high up in gov

[jwvm]

Maybe a little autotune?

On Jan 27, 6:31 pm, "Danny T" > wrote:
> She starts to sing about 1/2 way through. She didn't know her mic was
> on :-) Bad lesson to learn the hard way!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfZ_gXCHaMw

[David Morgan \(MAMS\)]

"Danny T" > wrote in message ups.com...
>
>
> On Jan 27, 5:50 pm, wrote:
> > That was painful to watch. I don't dislike her more than I do any
> > other polititian in particular, but man, that was a bad call going for
> > that one.
>
> I give her praise for getting the words right:-)

Noooooo ****.... I guarantee there are morons on capital hill who don't.

[Arny Krueger]

"Danny T" > wrote in message
ups.com
> On Jan 27, 5:50 pm, wrote:

>> That was painful to watch. I don't dislike her more
>> than I do any other polititian in particular, but man,
>> that was a bad call going for that one.

Some sound guy was not on his toes. This is live sound 101 - mute the mics
of people who shouldn't sing solos during group sing-alongs.

> I give her praise for getting the words right:-) I don't
> like anyone that high up in gov

She didn't get all the words right - she didn't sing the whole song!

Note the approach of a skilled politician - she only sang the words she
knew. ;-)

[David Morgan \(MAMS\)]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message . ..
> "Danny T" > wrote in message
> ups.com
> > On Jan 27, 5:50 pm, wrote:
>
> >> That was painful to watch. I don't dislike her more
> >> than I do any other polititian in particular, but man,
> >> that was a bad call going for that one.
>
> Some sound guy was not on his toes. This is live sound 101 - mute the mics
> of people who shouldn't sing solos during group sing-alongs.
>
> > I give her praise for getting the words right:-) I don't
> > like anyone that high up in gov
>
> She didn't get all the words right - she didn't sing the whole song!
>
> Note the approach of a skilled politician - she only sang the words she
> knew. ;-)

She only sang as the Color Guard approached... but you could be right.

[Laurence Payne]

On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 14:22:16 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)"
/Odm> wrote:

>> Note the approach of a skilled politician - she only sang the words she
>> knew. ;-)
>
>She only sang as the Color Guard approached... but you could be right.

Was it my imagination, or were there some horrible wrong notes in the
band as well?

[jwvm]

On Jan 28, 7:27 am, Chel van Gennip > wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 00:31:15 +0100, Danny T wrote:
> > She starts to sing about 1/2 way through. She didn't know her mic was on
> > :-) Bad lesson to learn the hard way!
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfZ_gXCHaMwThere was no way she could know if her mike was on, and on such an
> occasion one is expected to sing, talent or not. It is not an "Idols"
> show!

But just think of all the fun that Simon Cowell could have had!

[Les Cargill]

Laurence Payne wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 14:22:16 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)"
> /Odm> wrote:
>
>
>>>Note the approach of a skilled politician - she only sang the words she
>>>knew. ;-)
>>
>>She only sang as the Color Guard approached... but you could be right.
>
>
> Was it my imagination, or were there some horrible wrong notes in the
> band as well?

It's not your imagination.

--
Les Cargill

[Laurence Payne]

On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 11:41:03 -0500, Les Cargill >
wrote:

>> Was it my imagination, or were there some horrible wrong notes in the
>> band as well?
>
>It's not your imagination.

Was it a kid's band or something? I thought American marching bands
had a high standard?

[Les Cargill]

Laurence Payne wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 11:41:03 -0500, Les Cargill >
> wrote:
>
>
>>>Was it my imagination, or were there some horrible wrong notes in the
>>>band as well?
>>
>>It's not your imagination.
>
>
> Was it a kid's band or something?

I suspect so. Sounds like about high
school level to me.

> I thought American marching bands
> had a high standard?

No, they do not. Walking around with a wind instrument
is ludicrous at best. Now, at the college and pro level,
people figure it out but there's only so much you can
do. You have to be very strong to do it right.

The standard is pretty much put to the sword in service of
the band's primary role as time filler at football
games.

There be exceptions. Which are amazing.

I am pretty sure Sousa's guys sat, or stood still.

--
Les Cargill

[jakdedert]

Danny T wrote:
> She starts to sing about 1/2 way through. She didn't know her mic was
> on :-) Bad lesson to learn the hard way!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfZ_gXCHaMw
>
>
What was the lesson? That she couldn't sing?

I suspect that she knew that. Could you have done any better? As other
posters have suggested, this is just another case of CNN audio
incompetence...another mic left live when it shouldn't have been.

Nothing new....

I don't sing very well either, but I've been moved on more than one
occasion to sing the words when the Anthem was played in public. I'd
hate to see/hear recordings of those events played on YouTube with me as
the 'featured soloist'.

My teenage daughter--who sings much better than I--has sung it, solo, to
commence sporting events. She's hit a couple of clunkers on those
occasions; but got a respectful ovation for the effort.

jak

[Danny T]

On Jan 28, 5:27 am, Chel van Gennip > wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 00:31:15 +0100, Danny T wrote:
> > She starts to sing about 1/2 way through. She didn't know her mic was on
> > :-) Bad lesson to learn the hard way!
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfZ_gXCHaMwThere was no way she could know if her mike was on, and on such an
> occasion one is expected to sing, talent or not. It is not an "Idols"
> show!
>
> The lesson to learn is for the technician: treat the people you are
> helping with respect.
>
> --
> Chel van Gennip
> Visit Serg van Gennip's sitehttp://www.serg.vangennip.com
I may not know much BUT I know there is a job openning for a sound guy
in DC!

[Frank Vuotto]

>>> That was painful to watch

I enjoyed it, I've heard lots of folks who couldn't sing 'go for it'
(unfortunatly, many in the studio) and I usually get a kick out of it.
I though she was cute and I had to smile.

....but, true, she's no Rosanne Barr.

Why was she miked ? (I couldn't watch more than a few minutes (too
close to dinner time for me)

Frank /~ http://newmex.com/f10
@/

[Ron Capik]

Arny Krueger wrote:

> "Danny T" > wrote in message
> < ...snip... >
>
> > I give her praise for getting the words right:-) I don't
> > like anyone that high up in gov
>
> She didn't get all the words right - she didn't sing the whole song!
>
> Note the approach of a skilled politician - she only sang the words she
> knew. ;-)

No, she sang the words she thought she knew, and got one of the few
words she sang wrong.


Later...

Ron Capik
--

[jakdedert]

Ron Capik wrote:
> Arny Krueger wrote:
>
>> "Danny T" > wrote in message
>> < ...snip... >
>>
>>> I give her praise for getting the words right:-) I don't
>>> like anyone that high up in gov
>> She didn't get all the words right - she didn't sing the whole song!
>>
>> Note the approach of a skilled politician - she only sang the words she
>> knew. ;-)
>
> No, she sang the words she thought she knew, and got one of the few
> words she sang wrong.
>
>
> Later...
>
> Ron Capik
> --
>
>
>
I couldn't make it out, but did she sing '...*for* the land of the
free....'? That's a mistake I've heard so-called professionals make.

Another one I've heard (and pointed out, so that it got corrected the
next day) was '...through the perilous *night*....' That one opened a
convention of bureaucrats connected with the Veterans Administration.
They seemed not to notice, and gave the vocalist a loud, sustained,
standing 'O'.

FWIW, official lyrics here:
<http://www.usa-flag-site.org/song-lyrics/star-spangled-banner.shtml>

jak

[Ron Capik]

jakdedert wrote:

> Ron Capik wrote:
> > Arny Krueger wrote:
> >
> >> "Danny T" > wrote in message
> >> < ...snip... >
> >>
> >>> I give her praise for getting the words right:-) I don't
> >>> like anyone that high up in gov
> >> She didn't get all the words right - she didn't sing the whole song!
> >>
> >> Note the approach of a skilled politician - she only sang the words she
> >> knew. ;-)
> >
> > No, she sang the words she thought she knew, and got one of the few
> > words she sang wrong.
> >
> >
> > Later...
> >
> > Ron Capik
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> I couldn't make it out, but did she sing '...*for* the land of the
> free....'? That's a mistake I've heard so-called professionals make.
>
> Another one I've heard (and pointed out, so that it got corrected the
> next day) was '...through the perilous *night*....' That one opened a
> convention of bureaucrats connected with the Veterans Administration.
> They seemed not to notice, and gave the vocalist a loud, sustained,
> standing 'O'.
>
> FWIW, official lyrics here:
> <http://www.usa-flag-site.org/song-lyrics/star-spangled-banner.shtml>
>
> jak

Oh, say does *our* star-spangled banner yet wave...
vs (from the "official" lyrics site above)
Oh, say does *that* star-spangled banner yet wave...

Later...

Ron Capik
--

[jakdedert]

Ron Capik wrote:
> jakdedert wrote:
>
>> Ron Capik wrote:
>>> Arny Krueger wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Danny T" > wrote in message
>>>> < ...snip... >
>>>>
>>>>> I give her praise for getting the words right:-) I don't
>>>>> like anyone that high up in gov
>>>> She didn't get all the words right - she didn't sing the whole song!
>>>>
>>>> Note the approach of a skilled politician - she only sang the words she
>>>> knew. ;-)
>>> No, she sang the words she thought she knew, and got one of the few
>>> words she sang wrong.
>>>
>>>
>>> Later...
>>>
>>> Ron Capik
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I couldn't make it out, but did she sing '...*for* the land of the
>> free....'? That's a mistake I've heard so-called professionals make.
>>
>> Another one I've heard (and pointed out, so that it got corrected the
>> next day) was '...through the perilous *night*....' That one opened a
>> convention of bureaucrats connected with the Veterans Administration.
>> They seemed not to notice, and gave the vocalist a loud, sustained,
>> standing 'O'.
>>
>> FWIW, official lyrics here:
>> <http://www.usa-flag-site.org/song-lyrics/star-spangled-banner.shtml>
>>
>> jak
>
> Oh, say does *our* star-spangled banner yet wave...
> vs (from the "official" lyrics site above)
> Oh, say does *that* star-spangled banner yet wave...
>
> Later...
>
> Ron Capik
> --
>
>
>
Yeah, that's pretty egregious. I've heard worse, though, from amateurs.
The examples I gave were from supposed professionals, singing solo for
a crowd...who *knew* they were being heard.

A few months ago, a news organization buttonholed members of Congress
coming out of the legislature. When asked to recite the words to the
Anthem, many came up short....

jak

[[email protected]]

On Jan 28, 12:59 pm, jakdedert > wrote:
> Danny T wrote:
> > She starts to sing about 1/2 way through. She didn't know her mic was
> > on :-) Bad lesson to learn the hard way!
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfZ_gXCHaMwWhat was the lesson? That she couldn't sing?
>
> I suspect that she knew that. Could you have done any better? As other
> posters have suggested, this is just another case of CNN audio
> incompetence...another mic left live when it shouldn't have been.
>
> Nothing new....
>
> I don't sing very well either, but I've been moved on more than one
> occasion to sing the words when the Anthem was played in public. I'd
> hate to see/hear recordings of those events played on YouTube with me as
> the 'featured soloist'.
>
> My teenage daughter--who sings much better than I--has sung it, solo, to
> commence sporting events. She's hit a couple of clunkers on those
> occasions; but got a respectful ovation for the effort.
>
> jak




I'm with you and Chel on this one. Most of my smart friends and
relatives are pretty tone deaf, to be kind. And most of the ones who
can sing well enough can't hold their own in discourse with the first
group.

I'm cutting Hil slack on this one, and hope the media doesn't blow it
up.

It would be interesting to get a list of all the presidents and their
pros and cons in office, which noted whether or not they could hold a
tune.


v

[jwvm]

On Jan 29, 9:11 am, wrote:
> On Jan 28, 12:59 pm, jakdedert > wrote:
>
<snip>
> It would be interesting to get a list of all the presidents and their
> pros and cons in office, which noted whether or not they could hold a
> tune.

Reagan once sang a snippet of "When Irish Eyes Are Smiling" fairly
well when he was telling an Irish joke. He didn't know the mic was
open either but at least it was not an "Iran Contra" type of
disaster.

[Jenn]

On Jan 28, 9:20 am, Laurence Payne <lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom>
wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 11:41:03 -0500, Les Cargill >
> wrote:
>
> >> Was it my imagination, or were there some horrible wrong notes in the
> >> band as well?
>
> >It's not your imagination.Was it a kid's band or something?

Sounds like a high school band.

> I thought American marching bands
> had a high standard?

It may be a marching band, it may not be. But anyway, quality is
spotty, especially these days. Some are REALLY good, others are
terrible. This one sounds about average.

[Jenn]

On Jan 28, 9:57 am, Les Cargill > wrote:
> Laurence Payne wrote:
> > On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 11:41:03 -0500, Les Cargill >
> > wrote:
>
> >>>Was it my imagination, or were there some horrible wrong notes in the
> >>>band as well?
>
> >>It's not your imagination.
>
> > Was it a kid's band or something?I suspect so. Sounds like about high
> school level to me.
>
> > I thought American marching bands
> > had a high standard?No, they do not. Walking around with a wind instrument
> is ludicrous at best. Now, at the college and pro level,
> people figure it out but there's only so much you can
> do. You have to be very strong to do it right.
>
> The standard is pretty much put to the sword in service of
> the band's primary role as time filler at football
> games.
>
> There be exceptions. Which are amazing.
>
> I am pretty sure Sousa's guys sat, or stood still.

Sousa's USMC had to march a bit, but his own, private band which was
so very famous did no marching at all.