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Radium
January 26th 07, 09:18 PM
Hi:

I know I've brought this subject up -- and in other groups -- before
but I just can't get over it. I apologize profusely to those who might
be annoyed.

PCI sound stinks. Like kakaa it does.

I just wish the audio communties would revert back to real,
non-emulated SB16 FM synthesis and upgrade from there.

FM emulation [or any audio emulation for that matter] is
sample-playback. Sample playback synth = human kakaa

SB Live stinks like human kakaa. It has no real music synthesis. Its
all kakaa-like emulation.

SB16 PCI has the disadvantages of SB16 ISA [e.g. limitation to 16-bit
resolution] without the advantages [e.g. *real* FM synthesis]. All SB16
PCIs should be burned in oxyacetylene flames.

AFAIK, some PCI cards contain something called "Yamaha FM synth". I
don't really like it though, it is emulation. The Avance sound card has
"Avance FM synth", but its also a real stinker as it isn't a real
synth. The evil PCI loves to inflict pain on other types of slot -- ISA
being the unfortunate victim. PCI cards don't contain real FM synth.

Anything kind of 'OPL' a PCI would have, would be emulation. The only
'OPL' any PCI cards have is OPL emulation. Emulation stinks like human
diarrhea kakaa foam. I don't understand why a PCI card cannot contain a
real FM synth like Creative Music Synth [220]. Is there a technical
barrier to this?

I can easily tell the difference between the freshness, brightness,
warmth, and liveliness *real* synth from the stale, cacophonous -- or
rather KAKAA-FOAMous -- fart of emulation.

Creative Music Synth [220] = SB16 ISA's FM synth = my favorite MIDI
synth.

I don't care for other MIDI synths.

Creative Music Synth [220] is:

1. Real

and

2. Digital

and

3. Hardware

and

4. Real-time

All other FM synths are okay. Wavetables are also fine. But I don't
care for them.

Here is my ratings for *soundcard* MIDI synths in the order from best
to worst:

1. Creative Music Synth [220]
2. All digital hardware FM synths other than Creative Music Synth [220]
3. Wavetables, non-FM digital synths, analog [non-digital] synths
4. Sample-playback synths

Sample-playback synths are the worst.

Sample playback synths STEE<insert infinite amounts of
'E'>EENKS!!<insert infinite amounts of '!'>!!

Sample-playback MIDI synths are the worst audio equipment ever. They
are stinky, tickly, itchy, creepy, irritating, farty, hissy,
terrifying, disgusting, and annoying.

I like the audio quality of Creative Music Synth [220]. It sounds so
warm, fresh, bright, rejuvenating, lively and effervescent.

The only thing about Creative Labs that I like is their Creative Music
Synth [220]. Other than that, they are a piece of kakaa.

Creative Labs is one f--king piece of crap that provides sh--ty
customer service. Their tech support is so limited.

Creative Technology used to be such a great company 13 years ago. Now
there are nothing but stinky-diarrhea-kakaa-foam-of-humans.

I've asked them about Creative Music Synth [220] only to be
totally-ignored.

Creative Labs also uses such f--ked up sickening disgusting
sample-playback synths in their PCI cards.

I wish that a gang of persons who support Creative Music Synth [220]
would attack Creative Technology and force them to make hardware
versions of Creative Music Synth [220] upgraded from 16-bit to 32-bit
and from 44.1 Khz to 192 Khz. And from there, keep on upgrading!

If Creative Technology refuses, I hope the CMS220-advocating gang ties
up the people who make up that company and torturously force them to
repeatedly listen to sample-playback MIDI synths and emulation until
those Creative personnel are annoyed with burning headaches and are
deathly desperate for an escape. Only then will the people of Creative
Technology do the right thing -- make upgraded versions of Creative
Music Synth [220].

A rich spoiled-rotten company like Creative deserves to be heinously
hijacked and forced to do their duties.

I feel like torching the chips of sample-playback synths with
oxyacetylene flames to distort their audio output.

Anyone who respectfully uses any sample-playback MIDI synth needs to be
put in a mental hospital ASAP for his/her own good as [s]he is a danger
to him/herself.

Creative Music Synth [220] is my favorite MIDI synth.

Its those sample-playback synths that are crap.

Sadly most MIDI magazines advertise the kakaa-stinky sample playback as
a good thing often referring to them as "wavetables". These sick
marketers call sample-playback synthesis "realistic sounding".

Sample-playbacks synths are nothing more than the sound of a stinky
fart emitted from a human colon.

I've been looking hard for true FM synths. No luck. Most PCI cards have
OPL emulation. I hate FM emulation. FM emulation -- much like any
sample-playback synthesis -- is to the ear what human kakaa is to the
nose.

I want *real* FM synthesis not some stinky trashy out-of-a-human-behind
emulation.

Those stinky-f==king marketers who refer to sample-playback synthesis
as "wavetables" deserve to be thrown into the sewer and made to eat
their own crap.

There is a world of different between sample-playback synthesis and
wavetable synthesis.

Wavetable synthesis is so much better than any kakaa-spitting
sample-playback synth but not nearly as heavenly as *true* FM
synthesis. Of all the *true* FM synths, Creative Music Synth [220] is
my favorite.

If a synth is *not*:

1. *Real*

AND

2. *Digital*

AND

3. *Real-time*

AND

4. *Hardware*

then it,
STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENKS!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here is what I would like to do. I would like to make some replicable
electronic nanobots that will search for sample playback MIDI synths in
any part of the world and attach to the digital chips of
sample-playback MIDI synths. These nanobots should contain magnetic
receivers that will extract any random enviromental magnetic audio
signals 2 khz and 50 khz [excluding spikes, square-waves, white noise,
brown noise, pink noise and bass sounds]. The nanobots then amplify
those signals to the point where they would significantly interfere
with -- and cause inductive crosstalk in -- the audio signals in the
digital electronic chips of the sample-playback MIDI synths.

That way all companies will be forced to make *real* synths and the
listeners will be forced to adapt to the excellent audio quality of
*real* synths. For those who miss their stinky human kakaa foam of
sample-playback synths, well, f--k you!

I try playing Creative Music Synth [220], through my so-called 'karaoke
voice cancellor' -- which inverts the phase of one stereo chanel [right
or left] and then combines it the other channel -- which results in
anything identical in both the left and right channels being removed. I
get a mono of what was different in the left and right channels.

When I play Creative Music Synth [220] audio through the
voice-cancellor, it sounds more treble, sharper, brighter, warmer, and
crisper than when I don't use the voice-cancellor.

Any understanding, cooperation, and assistance is greatly appreciated.


Thanks,

Radium

jakdedert
January 26th 07, 10:01 PM
Radium wrote:
> Hi:
>
> I know I've brought this subject up -- and in other groups -- before
> but I just can't get over it. I apologize profusely to those who might
> be annoyed.
>
> PCI sound stinks. Like kakaa it does.
>
<snip>

> Thanks,
>
> Radium
>
>

Okay, now tell us how you really feel...in perhaps a thousand words or
less this time.

jak

Tim Scott
January 26th 07, 10:31 PM
"Radium" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Hi:
>
> I know I've brought this subject up -- and in other groups -- before
> but I just can't get over it. I apologize profusely to those who might
> be annoyed.
>
> PCI sound stinks. Like kakaa it does.
>
> I just wish the audio communties would revert back to real,
> non-emulated SB16 FM synthesis and upgrade from there.


Firstly, this has what to do with professional live sound reinforcement?!

Secondly, you are not actually complaining about PCI sound, you are just
talking about the synthesis side? right? so not the whole PCI sound idea, or
product type, just one part of it.

Thirdly, if someone wanted decent sound, why would they go with a creative
sound card, and not a proper synthesizer keyboard, MIDI box, or at least a
PCI card from a pro company.

Fourthly - please don't cross post off topic crap to usenet groups.

Eeyore
January 26th 07, 10:41 PM
Tim Scott wrote:

> Fourthly - please don't cross post off topic crap to usenet groups.

Radium is a well-known cross-posting idiot.

Graham

Saxology
January 27th 07, 01:05 AM
"Radium" > wrote in message
kakaa
kakaa
kakaa
kakaa-like
real stinker
diarrhea kakaa
KAKAA-FOAMous
fart
stinky, tickly, itchy, creepy, irritating, farty, hissy,
kakaa
stinky-diarrhea-kakaa-foam
crap
kakaa-stinky
stinky fart
colon
human kakaa
out-of-a-human-behind
crap
kakaa-spitting
stinky human kakaa
Thanks,
Radium


I can see from your post that you have a childlike fixation on poopies.....
Your kakaa stinky mama shoulda used birth control so that she prevented you
from popping from her stinky, itchy, tickly, kakaa spitting colon.

nuff said.
-Sax

Radium
January 27th 07, 02:09 AM
On Jan 26, 2:31 pm, "Tim Scott"
> wrote:

> Firstly, this has what to do with professional live sound reinforcement?!

Um, Creative Music Synth [220] has an audio quality that is lively and
refreshing compared to the stinky human diarrhea kakaa foam you get
from sample-playback MIDI synths -- such as those found in Audigy.
Audigy should change its name to "fartigy"

> Secondly, you are not actually complaining about PCI sound, you are just
> talking about the synthesis side? right?

Correct

> so not the whole PCI sound idea, or
> product type, just one part of it.

Yes.

> Thirdly, if someone wanted decent sound, why would they go with a creative
> sound card, and not a proper synthesizer keyboard, MIDI box, or at least a
> PCI card from a pro company.

Okay, two questions:

1. Why can't a *real* FM synth -- like Creative Music Synth [220] be
constructed on a PCI card?

2. Why aren't there any keyboards/MIDI-boxes that use Creative Music
Synth [220]?

Bob Howes
January 27th 07, 03:11 AM
"Radium" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Hi:
>
> I know I've brought this subject up -- and in other groups -- before
> but I just can't get over it. I apologize profusely to those who might
> be annoyed.
>
> PCI sound stinks. Like kakaa it does.
>
<snip about a thousand words of bull****>

Point 1: This is a forum for live sound reinforcement issues, not home
computers. Check before you post your ****.

Point 2: You're full of crap anyway. There are good and bad PCI cards.
Soundblaster stuff is bottom feeder ****, but there are lots of excellent
PCI sound cards out there. Try Echo Labs or Focusrite amongst many others.
Even EMU cards, also from Creative, actually perform quite well.

Bob

Radium
January 27th 07, 03:50 AM
On Jan 26, 7:11 pm, "Bob Howes" > wrote:
> Point 2: You're full of crap anyway. There are good and bad PCI cards.
> Soundblaster stuff is bottom feeder ****, but there are lots of excellent
> PCI sound cards out there. Try Echo Labs or Focusrite amongst many others.
> Even EMU cards, also from Creative, actually perform quite well.

F--k EMU. EMU maybe made by Creative but -- like most of today's
Creative products -- it's MIDI synth stinks like human diarrhea kakaa
foam.

Its Creative Technology Ltd. thats at fault. I feel like holding those
sick f--ks hostage and forcing them to listen to sample playback
MIDI synths they put in their scumslum PCI soundcards. I want to drive
the *******s insane with kakaa-quality audio from their sample playback
MIDI synths. Sick scumbags like Creative Technology Ltd deserve to be
punished for not doing their duty.

The least Creative Technology Ltd could do is make a *real* 32-bit, 192
khz, version of Creative Music Synth [220] in a PCI card. But
noooooooooooooooooooooo! They are too f--king lazy.

Its also the fault of self-destructive customers who don't mind paying
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for those crappy sample playback synths. F--k those
customers as well. Masochistic perverts! I don't care if those
customers destroy themselves. I sure as f--k don't want them destroying
me!

Please assist me with the following:

Here is what I would like to do. I would like to make some replicable
electronic nanobots that will search for sample playback MIDI synths in
any part of the world and attach to the digital chips of
sample-playback MIDI synths. These nanobots should contain magnetic
receivers that will extract any random enviromental magnetic audio
signals between -- and including -- 2 khz and 50 khz [excluding spikes,
square-waves, white noise, brown noise, pink noise and bass sounds].
The nanobots then amplify those signals to the point where they would
significantly interfere with -- and cause inductive crosstalk in -- the
audio signals in the digital electronic chips of the sample-playback
MIDI synths.

That way all companies will be forced to make *real* synths and the
listeners will be forced to adapt to the excellent audio quality of
*real* synths. For those who miss their stinky human kakaa foam of
sample-playback synths, well, f--k them!

Radium
January 27th 07, 03:52 AM
On Jan 26, 7:11 pm, "Bob Howes" > wrote:
> "Radium" > wrote in ooglegroups.com...> Hi:
>
> > I know I've brought this subject up -- and in other groups -- before
> > but I just can't get over it. I apologize profusely to those who might
> > be annoyed.
>
> > PCI sound stinks. Like kakaa it does.<snip about a thousand words of bull****>
>
> Point 1: This is a forum for live sound reinforcement issues, not home
> computers. Check before you post your ****.
>
> Point 2: You're full of crap anyway. There are good and bad PCI cards.
> Soundblaster stuff is bottom feeder ****, but there are lots of excellent
> PCI sound cards out there. Try Echo Labs or Focusrite amongst many others.
> Even EMU cards, also from Creative, actually perform quite well.
>
> Bob

Okay PCI cards maybe excellent for Wave, MP3s, WMAs and other non-MIDI
digital audio. However, most PCI's MIDI synths are kakaa

Mike Rieves
January 27th 07, 06:39 AM
"Bob Howes" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Radium" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>> Hi:
>>
>> I know I've brought this subject up -- and in other groups -- before
>> but I just can't get over it. I apologize profusely to those who might
>> be annoyed.
>>
>> PCI sound stinks. Like kakaa it does.
>>
> <snip about a thousand words of bull****>
>
> Point 1: This is a forum for live sound reinforcement issues, not home
> computers. Check before you post your ****.
>
> Point 2: You're full of crap anyway. There are good and bad PCI cards.
> Soundblaster stuff is bottom feeder ****, but there are lots of excellent
> PCI sound cards out there. Try Echo Labs or Focusrite amongst many
> others. Even EMU cards, also from Creative, actually perform quite well.
>
> Bob

Please, Please, PLEASE, everyone ignore Raduim! He is a huge troll. He
will continue asking stupid, idiotic questions as long as anyone will
respond to him, so please don't respond to his posts!

David Morgan \(MAMS\)
January 27th 07, 07:43 AM
"Radium" > wrote in message oups.com...
> Hi:
>
> I know I've brought this subject up -- and in other groups -- before
> but I just can't get over it. I apologize profusely to those who might
> be annoyed.
>
> PCI sound stinks. Like kakaa it does.


1). Your complaint has nothing to do with PCI.

2). Trolling is only allowed on small bodies of water... where you can be drowned.

3). Apology accepted... now run along home - I hear your mother calling.

--
David Morgan (MAMS)
http://www.m-a-m-s DOT com
Morgan Audio Media Service
Dallas, Texas (214) 662-9901
_______________________________________
http://www.artisan-recordingstudio.com

Daniel Mandic
January 27th 07, 10:31 AM
Bob Howes wrote:

> Point 2: You're full of crap anyway. There are good and bad PCI
> cards. Soundblaster stuff is bottom feeder ****, but there are lots
> of excellent PCI sound cards out there. Try Echo Labs or Focusrite
> amongst many others. Even EMU cards, also from Creative, actually
> perform quite well.
>
> Bob



Which of them do have instruments onboard, to play them by MIDI?


All I know are wave cards, or something s-pfif digital sync.. I don't
know :), with instruments and samples in the PC Mainmemory. They ARE
kackkaa!

e-MU had its last ideas in the Times of the E4 and E4 Ultra
Machines/Sampler Rack Nineteen Inch. The today stuff of e-MU is like
the last breathes of that company. Same goes to Hammond, with no real
Hammond today to order. The same.... Descent!



Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic

P.S.: If Mr. Hammond invented the new Organ-Chips for today Hammond
Organs, I'll be quiet shout.

Daniel Mandic
January 27th 07, 10:31 AM
You have to tolerate different viewings.

Digital gives you some advantages, which you have not with analog, and
disadvantages.

Of course, a pure analog line (my ears are analog, yet) would be the
best.



I can understand your angriness, when freaks are always praising the
newest stuff and sometimes making good old things bad. As I said
before, they need it other, ...to view things....
BUT, their view is not mine, well? Actually they talk/praise something
Second, not the first view.

It's difficult to talk singular (if not possible. Thick Books may come
closer to that...), and even more when you for yourself need, or do
prefer Digital.
With a car you can also bend right or left, but never straight ;).



Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic

Saxology
January 27th 07, 02:19 PM
"David Morgan (MAMS)" /Odm> wrote in message
news:XoDuh.111$Ss1.68@trnddc07...
>
> "Radium" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>> Hi:
>>
>> I know I've brought this subject up -- and in other groups -- before
>> but I just can't get over it. I apologize profusely to those who might
>> be annoyed.
>>
>> PCI sound stinks. Like kakaa it does.
>
>
> 1). Your complaint has nothing to do with PCI.
>
> 2). Trolling is only allowed on small bodies of water... where you can be
> drowned.
>
> 3). Apology accepted... now run along home -

I hear your mother calling.

Bahhhhhhhhhhhhh, Bahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... lol

>
>

Les Cargill
January 27th 07, 03:45 PM
Radium wrote:

> Hi:
>
> I know I've brought this subject up -- and in other groups -- before
> but I just can't get over it. I apologize profusely to those who might
> be annoyed.
>
> PCI sound stinks. Like kakaa it does.
>
<snip>

It is well outside the range of human hearing, at 100 MHz.

>
> Radium
>

--
Les Cargill

Mike Rieves
January 28th 07, 04:59 AM
"jakdedert" > wrote in message
...
> Radium wrote:
>> Hi:
>>
>> I know I've brought this subject up -- and in other groups -- before
>> but I just can't get over it. I apologize profusely to those who might
>> be annoyed.
>>
>> PCI sound stinks. Like kakaa it does.
>>
> <snip>
>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Radium
>>
>>
>
> Okay, now tell us how you really feel...in perhaps a thousand words or
> less this time.
>
> jak
>

As I said, radium is a troll. If you're going to reply to his posts, please
take the time to remove alt.music.home-studio from the address bar. Thanks!