Your recording medium

[Lugnuts]

I'm trying to get a feel for what the main recording medium of most
people is at this current time. I'd wonder too if respondents would
consider themselfs a pro, semi-pro or a hobbyist. The news of Quantegy
going out of business kind of makes me curious. What I've noticed is
that even in the digital world, there isn't really broad array of
standalone digital recorders available. Are the top studios themselves
shifting towards Daw only? What about for live recording?

Mike

[Richard Crowley]

"Lugnuts" wrote ...
> I'm trying to get a feel for what the main recording medium of most
> people is at this current time. I'd wonder too if respondents would
> consider themselfs a pro, semi-pro or a hobbyist. The news of Quantegy
> going out of business kind of makes me curious. What I've noticed is
> that even in the digital world, there isn't really broad array of
> standalone digital recorders available. Are the top studios themselves
> shifting towards Daw only? What about for live recording?

I can't remember the last time I actually rolled magnetic tape
for an audio recording (studio or location). About 90% of my
stuff goes direct to hard drive (whether simple stereo to a
laptop, or multi-track to my Alesis HD24), and about 10% to
Flash RAM (portable) I consider myself to be semi-pro.

OTOH, 100% of my video (whether single-camera, or multi-cam
live-switched or iso) goes to tape (DVCAM).

No, I *do* remember that the last time I used tape was when
we went on tour to Spain, summer, 2005, and I used my DAT
because my flash recorder wasn't available yet.

[[email protected]]

Field: CF and small hard disk.
Studio: bigger hard disks

I still use DAT as a BG streamer during VO etc sessions, mostly
because it's easy and I have the deck. My last field DAT (of many)
sold
last week.

Philip Perkins

[Mark & Mary Ann Weiss]

"Lugnuts" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> I'm trying to get a feel for what the main recording medium of most
> people is at this current time. I'd wonder too if respondents would
> consider themselfs a pro, semi-pro or a hobbyist. The news of Quantegy
> going out of business kind of makes me curious. What I've noticed is
> that even in the digital world, there isn't really broad array of
> standalone digital recorders available. Are the top studios themselves
> shifting towards Daw only? What about for live recording?
>
> Mike
>


My portable recording medium is a Sony GRX560 laptop loaded with Win XP and
Vegas 4, writing to a 5400 rpm 80GB hard drive.

In the studio, it's a RAID 0 array on a Athlon XP-based system.

I have not recorded to tape since about 1996-97.

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[Tobiah]

Lugnuts wrote:
> I'm trying to get a feel for what the main recording medium of most
> people is at this current time.

I went straight from a yamaha 4-track cassette recorder (80's) to
hard disc recording, and never stopped, I haven't really recorded
anything since the switch, but I think I finally have a stable system
set up. ;)

Level, sub pro.

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[Andy Eng]

Lugnuts wrote:
> I'm trying to get a feel for what the main recording medium of most
> people is at this current time. I'd wonder too if respondents would
> consider themselfs a pro, semi-pro or a hobbyist. The news of Quantegy
> going out of business kind of makes me curious. What I've noticed is
> that even in the digital world, there isn't really broad array of
> standalone digital recorders available. Are the top studios themselves
> shifting towards Daw only? What about for live recording?
>
> Mike

Hello Mike,

All my recording is live. Wouldn't know the first thing to do with a
studio if I were to ever step foot in one...

I use a hard drives (internal & external) to wintels & macs. The
wintel stays put but the mac (laptop) goes places)

Still use (yupperz) cassette tapes in an older unattended setup that
grabs overhead choir mics out of a submixer. It's sort of like
trotline fishing and I get 3-4 good catches a year. I bought a couple
boxes of tapes a couple years ago and at the rate I'm using them, good
for about seven more years unless they start falling apart before then.

Still use a Nomad Jukebox 3. In fact, I used it to cover my tail the
other Friday night at a show when I did something goofy to the lappie -
Pondering heavily if I should upgrade the disk from 20g to 120g for
$120 (USD)

A while ago, I tracked to a Seagate 8 gig pocket drive that had a 0.8"
(?) platter spinning at a wopping 3600 rpm. It was sort of a proof of
concept deal when we were arguing minimum platter speeds necessary for
reliable recording.

Unless I get a new recorder with flash, I think I'll try out an 8 gig
thumb drive when they get cheap which should be sometime this summer --
Leaving the external drive behind would be nice.

Ideally, I'd love to simply beam my converted digital from the venue to
a hard disk back on the desk but I don't think that'll happen anytime
soon.

You can scribble me in starting out as a hobbyist that (luckily) still
has a day time job though we've brought in a few sheckels...

HTH...
Andy

[David Morgan \(MAMS\)]

"Lugnuts" > wrote in message oups.com...
> I'm trying to get a feel for what the main recording medium of most
> people is at this current time. I'd wonder too if respondents would
> consider themselfs a pro, semi-pro or a hobbyist. The news of Quantegy
> going out of business kind of makes me curious. What I've noticed is
> that even in the digital world, there isn't really broad array of
> standalone digital recorders available. Are the top studios themselves
> shifting towards Daw only? What about for live recording?
>
> Mike


There are 2" tape machines in most sizeable studios.. as well as
digital open-reel machines. Most all have ProTools. I record to
DAT and Soundforge during live shows for 2-track, or rent a PT
system for multitracking.

I'd say to answer your questions, DAW, DAW, and more DAW... dawnit.


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http://www.m-a-m-s DOT com
Morgan Audio Media Service
Dallas, Texas (214) 662-9901
_______________________________________
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[Adrian Tuddenham]

Lugnuts > wrote:

> I'm trying to get a feel for what the main recording medium of most
> people is at this current time. I'd wonder too if respondents would
> consider themselfs a pro, semi-pro or a hobbyist. The news of Quantegy
> going out of business kind of makes me curious. What I've noticed is
> that even in the digital world, there isn't really broad array of
> standalone digital recorders available. Are the top studios themselves
> shifting towards Daw only? What about for live recording?

For transfers from 78s or tape I use a Mac G3 straight to HD (with a
back-up at the end of each day).

For live recording, portable or fixed, I use DAT and transfer it to the
Mac later(by S/PDIF).

The thinking behind this is that it is much too easy to destroy an hour
or two's work on a Hard Drive. If that ever happens, I can always do my
transfer work again; but I wouldn't like to have to ring up an artiste
and ask them to come back and repeat the performance.

For portable work, the DAT is about as portable as the mic setup. A
desktop computer is less portable (I can't afford a fast modern laptop)
and any smaller recorder would give no advantage because of the size of
all the other kit I need to carry.


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[pf]

Hi,

There's nothing like watching my Revox A77 recording/replaying - I just like
to watch the "reels go round and round" (apologies to John Lennon) and
there's VU meters as well. ...ah well those were the days.

I used my Revox for recording from 1972 (when I bought it) to about 1996
when I changed to DAT then around 1998 to ProTools on a Mac. (I'm a
hobbyist)

Paul

"Lugnuts" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> I'm trying to get a feel for what the main recording medium of most
> people is at this current time. I'd wonder too if respondents would
> consider themselfs a pro, semi-pro or a hobbyist. The news of Quantegy
> going out of business kind of makes me curious. What I've noticed is
> that even in the digital world, there isn't really broad array of
> standalone digital recorders available. Are the top studios themselves
> shifting towards Daw only? What about for live recording?
>
> Mike
>

[Scott Dorsey]

Lugnuts > wrote:
>I'm trying to get a feel for what the main recording medium of most
>people is at this current time. I'd wonder too if respondents would
>consider themselfs a pro, semi-pro or a hobbyist. The news of Quantegy
>going out of business kind of makes me curious. What I've noticed is
>that even in the digital world, there isn't really broad array of
>standalone digital recorders available. Are the top studios themselves
>shifting towards Daw only? What about for live recording?

I'm probably the big exception to the rule, with about half the work here
going to analogue tape of some kind or another. The other half almost
entirely goes to some digital tape format, either DAT or DTRS.

Now the thing is, I do mostly classical and jazz work, and a lot of
what I do is direct to 2-track. What isn't direct to 2 is mostly
concert recording at festivals, where long-term archiving is a big
deal.

Also, I'll say that I get a lot of business _because_ I am the only guy
left around here still rolling analogue tape.
--scott
--
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[Jay Kadis]

In article . com>,
"Lugnuts" > wrote:

> I'm trying to get a feel for what the main recording medium of most
> people is at this current time. I'd wonder too if respondents would
> consider themselfs a pro, semi-pro or a hobbyist. The news of Quantegy
> going out of business kind of makes me curious. What I've noticed is
> that even in the digital world, there isn't really broad array of
> standalone digital recorders available. Are the top studios themselves
> shifting towards Daw only? What about for live recording?
>
> Mike

For teaching I use DTRS machines and ProTools but most of the center is
using Linux PCs and we actually do a bit of live recording right to
Ardour. I'll still record to DAT and sometimes CD-R for live concerts.
We just acquired a 2" analog machine.

For my personal work, I've moved from 80-8 to DA-38 and now mostly go
straight to Logic Pro on a dual G5.

-Jay

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[Paul Stamler]

I'm with Adrian: direct to hard drive for remastering work, DAT for remotes.
One of these days it'd be nice to pick up an Alesis hard-drive recorder,
maybe after I get my roof fixed..

Peace,
Paul

[Fletch]

Lugnuts wrote:
> I'm trying to get a feel for what the main recording medium of most
> people is at this current time. I'd wonder too if respondents would
> consider themselfs a pro, semi-pro or a hobbyist. The news of Quantegy
> going out of business kind of makes me curious. What I've noticed is
> that even in the digital world, there isn't really broad array of
> standalone digital recorders available. Are the top studios themselves
> shifting towards Daw only? What about for live recording?
>
> Mike

Been using DA-88's for ten or more years. So I'm using DTRS. I stopped
using DAT a long time ago and now mix two track directly into my
computer, but using also create two spare tracks on the 88's as a
backup mix for storage.

I am a hybrid, I guess. One foot in the digital and one foot in the
analogue.

--Fletch

[David Morgan \(MAMS\)]

"Fletch" > wrote in message oups.com...
>
> Lugnuts wrote:
> > I'm trying to get a feel for what the main recording medium of most
> > people is at this current time. I'd wonder too if respondents would
> > consider themselfs a pro, semi-pro or a hobbyist. The news of Quantegy
> > going out of business kind of makes me curious. What I've noticed is
> > that even in the digital world, there isn't really broad array of
> > standalone digital recorders available. Are the top studios themselves
> > shifting towards Daw only? What about for live recording?
> >
> > Mike
>
> Been using DA-88's for ten or more years. So I'm using DTRS. I stopped
> using DAT a long time ago and now mix two track directly into my
> computer, but using also create two spare tracks on the 88's as a
> backup mix for storage.
>
> I am a hybrid, I guess. One foot in the digital and one foot in the
> analogue.


Hybrid is key, IMHO.... I've been that way for almost 20 years. I still
wouldn't even consider mixing totally 'in the box'.

DM

[news to me]

protools and digital performer (for those clients who use it)

mix on an analogue concsole when i can


"Lugnuts" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> I'm trying to get a feel for what the main recording medium of most
> people is at this current time. I'd wonder too if respondents would
> consider themselfs a pro, semi-pro or a hobbyist. The news of Quantegy
> going out of business kind of makes me curious. What I've noticed is
> that even in the digital world, there isn't really broad array of
> standalone digital recorders available. Are the top studios themselves
> shifting towards Daw only? What about for live recording?
>
> Mike
>

[Roger Norman]

"Lugnuts" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> I'm trying to get a feel for what the main recording medium of most
> people is at this current time. I'd wonder too if respondents would
> consider themselfs a pro, semi-pro or a hobbyist. The news of Quantegy
> going out of business kind of makes me curious.

The NEWS? Where have you been?

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
"Is our children learning yet?" George W. Bush
http://blogs.salon.com/0004478/


What I've noticed is
> that even in the digital world, there isn't really broad array of
> standalone digital recorders available. Are the top studios themselves
> shifting towards Daw only? What about for live recording?
>
> Mike
>

[Jay Kadis]

In article >,
"Roger Norman" > wrote:

> "Lugnuts" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> > I'm trying to get a feel for what the main recording medium of most
> > people is at this current time. I'd wonder too if respondents would
> > consider themselfs a pro, semi-pro or a hobbyist. The news of Quantegy
> > going out of business kind of makes me curious.
>
> The NEWS? Where have you been?

They're doing it again, this week.

-Jay

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x---------- http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jay/ ------------x

[Roger Norman]

Ah, a man after the realities of life. Roof before a hard drive recording
system.

To those of you that have wondered, home comes first, but hard disk
recording is a reality that can be achieved through well built systems, not
unlike those systems of older days. Because it makes no difference about
what you record onto these days, it makes a difference what you RECORD these
days.

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
"Is our children learning yet?" George W. Bush
http://blogs.salon.com/0004478/


"Paul Stamler" > wrote in message
...
> I'm with Adrian: direct to hard drive for remastering work, DAT for
> remotes.
> One of these days it'd be nice to pick up an Alesis hard-drive recorder,
> maybe after I get my roof fixed..
>
> Peace,
> Paul
>
>

[Fletch]

David Morgan (MAMS) wrote:
> "Fletch" > wrote in message oups.com...
> >
> > Lugnuts wrote:
> > > I'm trying to get a feel for what the main recording medium of most
> > > people is at this current time. I'd wonder too if respondents would
> > > consider themselfs a pro, semi-pro or a hobbyist. The news of Quantegy
> > > going out of business kind of makes me curious. What I've noticed is
> > > that even in the digital world, there isn't really broad array of
> > > standalone digital recorders available. Are the top studios themselves
> > > shifting towards Daw only? What about for live recording?
> > >
> > > Mike
> >
> > Been using DA-88's for ten or more years. So I'm using DTRS. I stopped
> > using DAT a long time ago and now mix two track directly into my
> > computer, but using also create two spare tracks on the 88's as a
> > backup mix for storage.
> >
> > I am a hybrid, I guess. One foot in the digital and one foot in the
> > analogue.
>
>
> Hybrid is key, IMHO.... I've been that way for almost 20 years. I still
> wouldn't even consider mixing totally 'in the box'.
>
> DM

I can't let go of the desk, to be honest. I love the desk, the tactile
interaction of turning knobs and tweaking faders and meters and
patchbays, the guts of the process, if you will.

I know I can use the digital desks with all that internal infinitely
assignable 'virtual' patch bay thing, but my experience on those is
that I set it up like an analogue desk. I want things to be simple and
straight forward. I see it, can touch it, and so can adjust it.

Maybe one day I'll move to using Hard Drive based medium, replacing my
88's, maybe. But I'm keeping the desk!!

--Fletch

[David Morgan \(MAMS\)]

"Jay Kadis" > wrote in message ...
> In article >,
> "Roger Norman" > wrote:
>
> > "Lugnuts" > wrote in message
> > oups.com...
> > > I'm trying to get a feel for what the main recording medium of most
> > > people is at this current time. I'd wonder too if respondents would
> > > consider themselfs a pro, semi-pro or a hobbyist. The news of Quantegy
> > > going out of business kind of makes me curious.
> >
> > The NEWS? Where have you been?

> They're doing it again, this week.

I'd be willing to bet this one is for real... so I'm keeping my eyes on
Scott Dorsey for news on where to buy 2" tape.

DM

[hank alrich]

David Morgan wrote:

> I'd be willing to bet this one is for real... so I'm keeping my eyes on
> Scott Dorsey for news on where to buy 2" tape.

RMGI is allegedly making some good stuff, to various formerly
appreciated formulae. They had a neat little booth at AES, and t-shirts
suggesting if the music wasn't worth the cost of analog tape, it waasn't
worth recording.

--
ha
"Iraq" is Arabic for "Vietnam"

[Scott Dorsey]

hank alrich > wrote:
>David Morgan wrote:
>
>> I'd be willing to bet this one is for real... so I'm keeping my eyes on
>> Scott Dorsey for news on where to buy 2" tape.
>
>RMGI is allegedly making some good stuff, to various formerly
>appreciated formulae. They had a neat little booth at AES, and t-shirts
>suggesting if the music wasn't worth the cost of analog tape, it waasn't
>worth recording.

Two thumbs up on RMGI 468. I reviewed it in the latest issue of Recording.
Tape Warehouse doesn't stock it, but they can get it. Tell them I sent you.

In theory you can get Zonal 675 in 2" but I haven't actually tried their
new production, and they don't like shipping to the US.

If you have been using Quantegy tape, you will be shocked and amazed the
first time you do the record azimuth adjustment with the RMGI 468. The
line on the scope just sits there and doesn't move a bit. It's the way
tape is supposed to be.
--scott

--
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[Lugnuts]

On Jan 23, 2:26 pm, "Roger Norman" > wrote:
> "Lugnuts" > wrote in ooglegroups.com...
>
> > I'm trying to get a feel for what the main recording medium of most
> > people is at this current time. I'd wonder too if respondents would
> > consider themselfs a pro, semi-pro or a hobbyist. The news of Quantegy
> > going out of business kind of makes me curious.


The NEWS? Where have you been?
>
> --
>
> Roger W. Norman
> SirMusic Studio
> "Is our children learning yet?" George W. Bushhttp://blogs.salon.com/0004478/
>


Not sure what you mean by where have you been. I realize they have
anounced the end of production before or there were rumors of it but
they've just done it again recently.

Mike

[[email protected]]

I guess I'll declare myself "semi-pro" because, although my day job is
as a broadcast engineer--and therefore I work with audio equipment
extensively in a professional capacity, most of the recording I do
myself is on a "hobby" basis. (In other words, I'm paid to solder and
punch, design and wire up systems but not to push faders).

My multitrack machine is a stand-alone hard disk recorder, an older
8-track machine that suits my modest needs just fine. But I continue to
mix down to 1/4" tape, at least for some projects. I've done a couple
of quick demos "in the box" with Cool Edit Pro but otherwise I'm not a
DAW user.

--Dave



On Jan 22, 7:16 pm, "Lugnuts" > wrote:
> I'm trying to get a feel for what the main recording medium of most
> people is at this current time. I'd wonder too if respondents would
> consider themselfs a pro, semi-pro or a hobbyist. The news ofQuantegy
> going out of business kind of makes me curious. What I've noticed is
> that even in the digital world, there isn't really broad array of
> standalone digital recorders available. Are the top studios themselves
> shifting towards Daw only? What about for live recording?
>
> Mike

[Paul Stamler]

"Scott Dorsey" > wrote in message
...
>
> If you have been using Quantegy tape, you will be shocked and amazed the
> first time you do the record azimuth adjustment with the RMGI 468. The
> line on the scope just sits there and doesn't move a bit. It's the way
> tape is supposed to be.

On its BASF and, earlier, Agfa predecessor, I used to have to look at the
Source/Repro switch to make sure I wasn't seeing the input signal. No ****.

Peace,
Paul

[Six String Stu]

I've been happy using both tape and a digital recorder. There is one other
medium, here in this tiny lil town that has turned out to be more active and
a lot less reliable.
I have experianced flutter with tape. This was an issue until I learned how
to properly clean and maintain my equipment.
With the digital recorder I sometimes forget to make a dupe copy for back up
reasons and then wind up fudging the original so bad a second session
(sometimes even a third) is required.
Yet this third medium is very hard to work with. What gets recorded oft
times gets palyed back to me completely changed. There seems to be a close
relation to product popularity and the age of the medium. Oddly enough the
older medium has a more sophisticated reproduced quality while the playback
on the newer stuff seems to lack depth, clarity and class yet is undoubtably
more active.



I'm talking about the local rumor mill of course. ;-)


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"Richard Crowley" > wrote in message
...
> "Lugnuts" wrote ...
>> I'm trying to get a feel for what the main recording medium of most
>> people is at this current time. I'd wonder too if respondents would
>> consider themselfs a pro, semi-pro or a hobbyist. The news of Quantegy
>> going out of business kind of makes me curious. What I've noticed is
>> that even in the digital world, there isn't really broad array of
>> standalone digital recorders available. Are the top studios themselves
>> shifting towards Daw only? What about for live recording?
>
> I can't remember the last time I actually rolled magnetic tape
> for an audio recording (studio or location). About 90% of my
> stuff goes direct to hard drive (whether simple stereo to a
> laptop, or multi-track to my Alesis HD24), and about 10% to
> Flash RAM (portable) I consider myself to be semi-pro.
>
> OTOH, 100% of my video (whether single-camera, or multi-cam
> live-switched or iso) goes to tape (DVCAM).
>
> No, I *do* remember that the last time I used tape was when
> we went on tour to Spain, summer, 2005, and I used my DAT
> because my flash recorder wasn't available yet.
>

[Rob Adelman]

Quantegy apparently quits analog tape again:
http://gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php?t=105274