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Harry Lavo
November 28th 06, 02:30 PM
Apropos earlier discussions here regarding stringed instrument sound
propogation, the following article in today's NYT should be of interest.
They are describing research going on to help "model" various models of
violin. They also speak of promising work being done with a composit of
balsa wood and carbon fibre.

Most relevant to the past discussion, they claim most sound is generated by
the top of the violin, followed by the back, and then the sides. They state
that this is true for some frequencies, which others are generatred more
omnidirectionally. I think we can presume these are the lower notes, but
they don't say that.


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/28/science/28acou.html?_r=1&8dpc&oref=slogin

If you can't get in, sorry. You'll have to go out and plunk down your buck
on the newstand. Or pay NYT $35 bucks for online access....one of the great
bargains on the internet, IMO. I've used it as my "home page" for about
five years.

Jenn
November 28th 06, 03:42 PM
In article >,
"Harry Lavo" > wrote:

> Apropos earlier discussions here regarding stringed instrument sound
> propogation, the following article in today's NYT should be of interest.
> They are describing research going on to help "model" various models of
> violin. They also speak of promising work being done with a composit of
> balsa wood and carbon fibre.
>
> Most relevant to the past discussion, they claim most sound is generated by
> the top of the violin, followed by the back, and then the sides. They state
> that this is true for some frequencies, which others are generatred more
> omnidirectionally. I think we can presume these are the lower notes, but
> they don't say that.
>
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/28/science/28acou.html?_r=1&8dpc&oref=slogin
>
> If you can't get in, sorry. You'll have to go out and plunk down your buck
> on the newstand. Or pay NYT $35 bucks for online access....one of the great
> bargains on the internet, IMO. I've used it as my "home page" for about
> five years.

Very interesting. I've played both of the guitars shown, and they are
quite good. Most startling was the interviewer playing left-handed on
right-handed strung instruments! ;-)

George M. Middius
November 28th 06, 04:12 PM
Jenn said:

> Very interesting. I've played both of the guitars shown, and they are
> quite good. Most startling was the interviewer playing left-handed on
> right-handed strung instruments! ;-)

Have you tried any of this type?
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/28/science/28acou.html?8dpc





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Walt
November 28th 06, 05:56 PM
Harry Lavo wrote:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/28/science/28acou.html?_r=1&8dpc&oref=slogin

Interesting article.

> If you can't get in, sorry. You'll have to go out and plunk down your buck
> on the newstand. Or pay NYT $35 bucks for online access....one of the great
> bargains on the internet, IMO.

Actualy, NYT registration is free. The $35 gets you some extras, like
their opinion columnists, but the vast majority of the content is
available at no charge simply by providing an email address.

Or you can use this if you don't want to register:
http://www.bugmenot.com/view/www.nytimes.com

//Walt

Harry Lavo
November 28th 06, 06:57 PM
"Jenn" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Harry Lavo" > wrote:
>
>> Apropos earlier discussions here regarding stringed instrument sound
>> propogation, the following article in today's NYT should be of interest.
>> They are describing research going on to help "model" various models of
>> violin. They also speak of promising work being done with a composit of
>> balsa wood and carbon fibre.
>>
>> Most relevant to the past discussion, they claim most sound is generated
>> by
>> the top of the violin, followed by the back, and then the sides. They
>> state
>> that this is true for some frequencies, which others are generatred more
>> omnidirectionally. I think we can presume these are the lower notes, but
>> they don't say that.
>>
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/28/science/28acou.html?_r=1&8dpc&oref=slogin
>>
>> If you can't get in, sorry. You'll have to go out and plunk down your
>> buck
>> on the newstand. Or pay NYT $35 bucks for online access....one of the
>> great
>> bargains on the internet, IMO. I've used it as my "home page" for about
>> five years.
>
> Very interesting. I've played both of the guitars shown, and they are
> quite good. Most startling was the interviewer playing left-handed on
> right-handed strung instruments! ;-)

I hope you looked at the "interactive" set of sketches of the violin....you
guitar freak, you! :-)

Jenn
November 28th 06, 06:58 PM
In article >,
Walt > wrote:

> Harry Lavo wrote:
> >
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/28/science/28acou.html?_r=1&8dpc&oref=slogin
>
> Interesting article.
>
> > If you can't get in, sorry. You'll have to go out and plunk down your buck
> > on the newstand. Or pay NYT $35 bucks for online access....one of the
> > great
> > bargains on the internet, IMO.
>
> Actualy, NYT registration is free.

Indeed. I've checked the Sunday Arts section weekly ever since it has
been online. I recommend to my students that they read as much of the
Sunday NYT as they can every week.

> The $35 gets you some extras, like
> their opinion columnists, but the vast majority of the content is
> available at no charge simply by providing an email address.
>
> Or you can use this if you don't want to register:
> http://www.bugmenot.com/view/www.nytimes.com
>
> //Walt

Jenn
November 28th 06, 07:00 PM
In article >,
George M. Middius <cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net>
wrote:

> Jenn said:
>
> > Very interesting. I've played both of the guitars shown, and they are
> > quite good. Most startling was the interviewer playing left-handed on
> > right-handed strung instruments! ;-)
>
> Have you tried any of this type?
> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/28/science/28acou.html?8dpc

Yeah, that's what I meant: the two guitars in this piece.

IMO, really very good. Not state of the art sound, but to get that in
acoustic guitars, one needs to spend more money.

Harry Lavo
November 28th 06, 07:02 PM
"Walt" > wrote in message
...
> Harry Lavo wrote:
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/28/science/28acou.html?_r=1&8dpc&oref=slogin
>
> Interesting article.
>
>> If you can't get in, sorry. You'll have to go out and plunk down your
>> buck on the newstand. Or pay NYT $35 bucks for online access....one of
>> the great bargains on the internet, IMO.
>
> Actualy, NYT registration is free. The $35 gets you some extras, like
> their opinion columnists, but the vast majority of the content is
> available at no charge simply by providing an email address.
>
> Or you can use this if you don't want to register:
> http://www.bugmenot.com/view/www.nytimes.com

Thanks for reminding me and the others. I was "signed on" so many years ago
I forgot I got it for free. When they restricted some parts for a fee, I
gladly paid it, as I consider the columnists as worth the fee all by
themselves.

Disclaimer: my ex-brother-in-law is President of the Times, but my divorce
had absolutely nothing to do with his success!! :-)

Jenn
November 28th 06, 07:09 PM
In article >,
"Harry Lavo" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> > In article >,
> > "Harry Lavo" > wrote:
> >
> >> Apropos earlier discussions here regarding stringed instrument sound
> >> propogation, the following article in today's NYT should be of interest.
> >> They are describing research going on to help "model" various models of
> >> violin. They also speak of promising work being done with a composit of
> >> balsa wood and carbon fibre.
> >>
> >> Most relevant to the past discussion, they claim most sound is generated
> >> by
> >> the top of the violin, followed by the back, and then the sides. They
> >> state
> >> that this is true for some frequencies, which others are generatred more
> >> omnidirectionally. I think we can presume these are the lower notes, but
> >> they don't say that.
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/28/science/28acou.html?_r=1&8dpc&oref=slogin
> >>
> >> If you can't get in, sorry. You'll have to go out and plunk down your
> >> buck
> >> on the newstand. Or pay NYT $35 bucks for online access....one of the
> >> great
> >> bargains on the internet, IMO. I've used it as my "home page" for about
> >> five years.
> >
> > Very interesting. I've played both of the guitars shown, and they are
> > quite good. Most startling was the interviewer playing left-handed on
> > right-handed strung instruments! ;-)
>
> I hope you looked at the "interactive" set of sketches of the violin....you
> guitar freak, you! :-)

Of course I did! While I conduct violins, I actually play guitar, so
I'm always dealing with both "sides" of the music world. Musically, I'm
kind of "bipolar". ;-)