AiNet issue

[[email protected]]

I have a dva-9861 head unit, and XM radio unit, HD radio and a pxa-h700
processor, also connected is an Alpine Video Screen and a Remote
Steering wheel cable.
according to alpine, they are connected in the correct order. I have
an internittent problem where I change the source to HD Radio and it
locks up the entire system. the only way to get it back is to turn off
the key and turn it back on. it would be a real pain to try and
troubleshoot which unit is actually the problem. originally, I was
controlling the processor through the Head Unit but have recently
purchased the C-701 controller and am now using that.

has anyone else had a similar issue? Alpine says they cannot
re-create the problem and my local installer does not know where to
start, they do not keep a spare of each type in stock, so it is not
easy to just swap out one at a time. also, the problem is pretty
intermittent, so it would be hard to recreate anyways.


the wiring is in the following order: Head-Unit, XM Radio, HD Radio,
Processor.
all using the AINet cable.

[[email protected]]

I am "Bumping" this, hoping that a newer user might have a suggestion.
I am still having this issue.


wrote:
> I have a dva-9861 head unit, and XM radio unit, HD radio and a pxa-h700
> processor, also connected is an Alpine Video Screen and a Remote
> Steering wheel cable.
> according to alpine, they are connected in the correct order. I have
> an internittent problem where I change the source to HD Radio and it
> locks up the entire system. the only way to get it back is to turn off
> the key and turn it back on. it would be a real pain to try and
> troubleshoot which unit is actually the problem. originally, I was
> controlling the processor through the Head Unit but have recently
> purchased the C-701 controller and am now using that.
>
> has anyone else had a similar issue? Alpine says they cannot
> re-create the problem and my local installer does not know where to
> start, they do not keep a spare of each type in stock, so it is not
> easy to just swap out one at a time. also, the problem is pretty
> intermittent, so it would be hard to recreate anyways.
>
>
> the wiring is in the following order: Head-Unit, XM Radio, HD Radio,
> Processor.
> all using the AINet cable.

[Pat M]

Who did the actual install? Why are they not trying to figure out the
problem? If you were the installer then it will take a little bit to figure
out but since it is the HD radio interface that is causing the lock up I
would first start with that. Have the dealer you purchased it from swap it
out for you or send it back to Alpine. To try and diagnose it over the net
would take quite some time and especially time that is eating away your
warranty. The Alpine tech support guy you spoke to might not of heard about
the problem but it doesn't mean someone else hasn't. I would talk to them
about sending that unit back or seeing if there is someone else that might
have one in stock that they are willing to let you try out.

Good luck and gremlins like this are definitely a pain in the xxx to figure
out.
--
Pat M
> wrote in message
oups.com...
>I am "Bumping" this, hoping that a newer user might have a suggestion.
> I am still having this issue.
>
>
> wrote:
>> I have a dva-9861 head unit, and XM radio unit, HD radio and a pxa-h700
>> processor, also connected is an Alpine Video Screen and a Remote
>> Steering wheel cable.
>> according to alpine, they are connected in the correct order. I have
>> an internittent problem where I change the source to HD Radio and it
>> locks up the entire system. the only way to get it back is to turn off
>> the key and turn it back on. it would be a real pain to try and
>> troubleshoot which unit is actually the problem. originally, I was
>> controlling the processor through the Head Unit but have recently
>> purchased the C-701 controller and am now using that.
>>
>> has anyone else had a similar issue? Alpine says they cannot
>> re-create the problem and my local installer does not know where to
>> start, they do not keep a spare of each type in stock, so it is not
>> easy to just swap out one at a time. also, the problem is pretty
>> intermittent, so it would be hard to recreate anyways.
>>
>>
>> the wiring is in the following order: Head-Unit, XM Radio, HD Radio,
>> Processor.
>> all using the AINet cable.
>

[Pat M]

Also have you tried swapping the XM and HD radio tuners around to see what
that does?
--
Pat M
> wrote in message
oups.com...
>I am "Bumping" this, hoping that a newer user might have a suggestion.
> I am still having this issue.
>
>
> wrote:
>> I have a dva-9861 head unit, and XM radio unit, HD radio and a pxa-h700
>> processor, also connected is an Alpine Video Screen and a Remote
>> Steering wheel cable.
>> according to alpine, they are connected in the correct order. I have
>> an internittent problem where I change the source to HD Radio and it
>> locks up the entire system. the only way to get it back is to turn off
>> the key and turn it back on. it would be a real pain to try and
>> troubleshoot which unit is actually the problem. originally, I was
>> controlling the processor through the Head Unit but have recently
>> purchased the C-701 controller and am now using that.
>>
>> has anyone else had a similar issue? Alpine says they cannot
>> re-create the problem and my local installer does not know where to
>> start, they do not keep a spare of each type in stock, so it is not
>> easy to just swap out one at a time. also, the problem is pretty
>> intermittent, so it would be hard to recreate anyways.
>>
>>
>> the wiring is in the following order: Head-Unit, XM Radio, HD Radio,
>> Processor.
>> all using the AINet cable.
>

[Tony F]

I'd try to get the unit to freeze up, and instead of fixing it, leave it
that way and drive straight to your installer and have them see it for
themselves. Or, you could video tape it if you have a recorder and show
them the video. I had an intermittent problem with my mostly-Alpine DVD
system in my Mustang. It also was difficult to troubleshoot. Luckily, the
problem fixed itself over time...not sure what that was all about.

If nothing else, you could try leaving your car with your insaller for a day
for them to play around with it.

Tony


---
2001 Chevy S10 ZR2
Pioneer DEH-P9600MP Head Unit, Phoenix Gold Ti500.4 Amp, Focal 165HC
Speakers & Image Dynamics ID8 D4 v.3 Sub

2006 Mustang GT Coupe
Alpine IVA-D310 DVD Head Unit, Alpine MRA-550 Digital 5.1 Amp, Boston
Acoustics Z-Series Speakers, Alpine SBS-05DC Center Channel Speaker,
Amplified MTX Thunderform Sub

[[email protected]]

Thanks for the reply.

if we take either the XM or HD unit out of the loop it works fine, so i
don't think it is a single bad unit. it has something to do with all
of them on the AINet chain.
we have tried 3 different XM interfaces and a 2nd HD radio and the
problem doesn't go away. the only 2 things we haven't swapped is the
head unit and the processor.
I think what I am going to try is to remove the XM and HD from the
AINet chain and hook them up with Optical Cables. That won't tell me
exactly which/what is the problem, but it might make it go away.

I was hoping that someone had a similar issue and could suggest
something, but I am tired of going back to the installer twice a week
and waiting around for an hour or more each time..


Pat M wrote:
> Also have you tried swapping the XM and HD radio tuners around to see what
> that does?
> --
> Pat M
> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> >I am "Bumping" this, hoping that a newer user might have a suggestion.
> > I am still having this issue.
> >
> >
> > wrote:
> >> I have a dva-9861 head unit, and XM radio unit, HD radio and a pxa-h700
> >> processor, also connected is an Alpine Video Screen and a Remote
> >> Steering wheel cable.
> >> according to alpine, they are connected in the correct order. I have
> >> an internittent problem where I change the source to HD Radio and it
> >> locks up the entire system. the only way to get it back is to turn off
> >> the key and turn it back on. it would be a real pain to try and
> >> troubleshoot which unit is actually the problem. originally, I was
> >> controlling the processor through the Head Unit but have recently
> >> purchased the C-701 controller and am now using that.
> >>
> >> has anyone else had a similar issue? Alpine says they cannot
> >> re-create the problem and my local installer does not know where to
> >> start, they do not keep a spare of each type in stock, so it is not
> >> easy to just swap out one at a time. also, the problem is pretty
> >> intermittent, so it would be hard to recreate anyways.
> >>
> >>
> >> the wiring is in the following order: Head-Unit, XM Radio, HD Radio,
> >> Processor.
> >> all using the AINet cable.
> >

[[email protected]]

I was able to get it to freeze up while there, but that didn't do them
any good.
everyones "Best guess" is that it is the combination of everything on
the AINet chain.
in order for the installer to do it "the right way", they would have to
replace one piece at a time and after each piece, drive it around for
up to 40 mins. they are obviously not in a hurry to do that(also,
they don't stock the head unit or processor). I am not convinced that
there is a single "Bad Unit" in the chain, I think it has to do with
the combination of everything. also Alpine does not actually make the
XM interface, they farmed it out to Turk and it is not an XM only unit.
it also works with Sirius.
I would guess that it is somehow sending some electronic signal for a
Sirius Tuner that the XM unit doesn't recognize and it putting it into
some kind of "loop" that locks up.
this weekedn I am going to switch the XM and HD unit to use the Optical
cords and get them off the AINet chain.

Tony F wrote:
> I'd try to get the unit to freeze up, and instead of fixing it, leave it
> that way and drive straight to your installer and have them see it for
> themselves. Or, you could video tape it if you have a recorder and show
> them the video. I had an intermittent problem with my mostly-Alpine DVD
> system in my Mustang. It also was difficult to troubleshoot. Luckily, the
> problem fixed itself over time...not sure what that was all about.
>
> If nothing else, you could try leaving your car with your insaller for a day
> for them to play around with it.
>
> Tony
>
>
> ---
> 2001 Chevy S10 ZR2
> Pioneer DEH-P9600MP Head Unit, Phoenix Gold Ti500.4 Amp, Focal 165HC
> Speakers & Image Dynamics ID8 D4 v.3 Sub
>
> 2006 Mustang GT Coupe
> Alpine IVA-D310 DVD Head Unit, Alpine MRA-550 Digital 5.1 Amp, Boston
> Acoustics Z-Series Speakers, Alpine SBS-05DC Center Channel Speaker,
> Amplified MTX Thunderform Sub

[Pat M]

What is the XM tuner then you are using if it is not an Alpine? I know the
Alpine T020XM tuner doesn't have optical out so would be interested in
seeing one that does and has AI Net control. I know you wouldn't want to
but then again I would demand that your installer or who ever you purchased
the system from to order up another headunit and processor so they can
figure out what the problem is. I know you are sick of going back and forth
to figure out the issue but unfortunately that is the fun part of enjoying a
great sounding audio system.

How about Alpine? Why aren't they taking each piece and putting it on the
test bench and seeing what they come up with. If they say there isn't a
problem then I would have the dealer send them your stuff or what ever has
tested bad back to Alpine and have them figure it out. They are the
manufacturers so they need to lend some sort of a hand.
--
Pat M
> wrote in message
oups.com...
>I was able to get it to freeze up while there, but that didn't do them
> any good.
> everyones "Best guess" is that it is the combination of everything on
> the AINet chain.
> in order for the installer to do it "the right way", they would have to
> replace one piece at a time and after each piece, drive it around for
> up to 40 mins. they are obviously not in a hurry to do that(also,
> they don't stock the head unit or processor). I am not convinced that
> there is a single "Bad Unit" in the chain, I think it has to do with
> the combination of everything. also Alpine does not actually make the
> XM interface, they farmed it out to Turk and it is not an XM only unit.
> it also works with Sirius.
> I would guess that it is somehow sending some electronic signal for a
> Sirius Tuner that the XM unit doesn't recognize and it putting it into
> some kind of "loop" that locks up.
> this weekedn I am going to switch the XM and HD unit to use the Optical
> cords and get them off the AINet chain.
>
> Tony F wrote:
>> I'd try to get the unit to freeze up, and instead of fixing it, leave it
>> that way and drive straight to your installer and have them see it for
>> themselves. Or, you could video tape it if you have a recorder and show
>> them the video. I had an intermittent problem with my mostly-Alpine DVD
>> system in my Mustang. It also was difficult to troubleshoot. Luckily,
>> the
>> problem fixed itself over time...not sure what that was all about.
>>
>> If nothing else, you could try leaving your car with your insaller for a
>> day
>> for them to play around with it.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> ---
>> 2001 Chevy S10 ZR2
>> Pioneer DEH-P9600MP Head Unit, Phoenix Gold Ti500.4 Amp, Focal 165HC
>> Speakers & Image Dynamics ID8 D4 v.3 Sub
>>
>> 2006 Mustang GT Coupe
>> Alpine IVA-D310 DVD Head Unit, Alpine MRA-550 Digital 5.1 Amp, Boston
>> Acoustics Z-Series Speakers, Alpine SBS-05DC Center Channel Speaker,
>> Amplified MTX Thunderform Sub
>

[[email protected]]

Alpine has not made an XM tuner for more than a year, they farmed it
out to TURK.
my guess is that this is the root of the problem since this unit is
both XM and Sirius compatible.

Alpine says that they cannot duplicate the problem, but when I talked
to them friday they say i am not the only one with this issue.

and you are right, I mis-spoke. I will be moving the HD radio and the
processor to optical, leaving the XM unit as the only thing on the
AINet chain.

because I purchased the processor elsewhere(sonomaxaudio.com), the
installer will not special order one just to check if mine is bad, I do
have the option to mailing it to alpine for warranty repair, but I am
sure they will tell me there is nothing wrong with it.


Pat M wrote:
> What is the XM tuner then you are using if it is not an Alpine? I know the
> Alpine T020XM tuner doesn't have optical out so would be interested in
> seeing one that does and has AI Net control. I know you wouldn't want to
> but then again I would demand that your installer or who ever you purchased
> the system from to order up another headunit and processor so they can
> figure out what the problem is. I know you are sick of going back and forth
> to figure out the issue but unfortunately that is the fun part of enjoying a
> great sounding audio system.
>
> How about Alpine? Why aren't they taking each piece and putting it on the
> test bench and seeing what they come up with. If they say there isn't a
> problem then I would have the dealer send them your stuff or what ever has
> tested bad back to Alpine and have them figure it out. They are the
> manufacturers so they need to lend some sort of a hand.
> --
> Pat M
> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> >I was able to get it to freeze up while there, but that didn't do them
> > any good.
> > everyones "Best guess" is that it is the combination of everything on
> > the AINet chain.
> > in order for the installer to do it "the right way", they would have to
> > replace one piece at a time and after each piece, drive it around for
> > up to 40 mins. they are obviously not in a hurry to do that(also,
> > they don't stock the head unit or processor). I am not convinced that
> > there is a single "Bad Unit" in the chain, I think it has to do with
> > the combination of everything. also Alpine does not actually make the
> > XM interface, they farmed it out to Turk and it is not an XM only unit.
> > it also works with Sirius.
> > I would guess that it is somehow sending some electronic signal for a
> > Sirius Tuner that the XM unit doesn't recognize and it putting it into
> > some kind of "loop" that locks up.
> > this weekedn I am going to switch the XM and HD unit to use the Optical
> > cords and get them off the AINet chain.
> >
> > Tony F wrote:
> >> I'd try to get the unit to freeze up, and instead of fixing it, leave it
> >> that way and drive straight to your installer and have them see it for
> >> themselves. Or, you could video tape it if you have a recorder and show
> >> them the video. I had an intermittent problem with my mostly-Alpine DVD
> >> system in my Mustang. It also was difficult to troubleshoot. Luckily,
> >> the
> >> problem fixed itself over time...not sure what that was all about.
> >>
> >> If nothing else, you could try leaving your car with your insaller for a
> >> day
> >> for them to play around with it.
> >>
> >> Tony
> >>
> >>
> >> ---
> >> 2001 Chevy S10 ZR2
> >> Pioneer DEH-P9600MP Head Unit, Phoenix Gold Ti500.4 Amp, Focal 165HC
> >> Speakers & Image Dynamics ID8 D4 v.3 Sub
> >>
> >> 2006 Mustang GT Coupe
> >> Alpine IVA-D310 DVD Head Unit, Alpine MRA-550 Digital 5.1 Amp, Boston
> >> Acoustics Z-Series Speakers, Alpine SBS-05DC Center Channel Speaker,
> >> Amplified MTX Thunderform Sub
> >

[BKOLFO4]

I thought when you move the components to optical, that just changes how
the audio is transfered. You still need the AiNet to be able to control
the component, correct? I use the optical on my processor, but without
the AiNet, I am only able to contol it using the remote display of the
processor - I can no longer control it from the HU.


--
BKOLFO4

[Pat M]

You are correct. The optical is only the audio and control is still done
through the AI Net. Now it could be an audio glitch that is locking up the
processor.
--
Pat M
"BKOLFO4" > wrote in message
...
>
> I thought when you move the components to optical, that just changes how
> the audio is transfered. You still need the AiNet to be able to control
> the component, correct? I use the optical on my processor, but without
> the AiNet, I am only able to contol it using the remote display of the
> processor - I can no longer control it from the HU.
>
>
> --
> BKOLFO4

[Pat M]

Sparty what model processor do you have?
--
Pat M
> wrote in message
ups.com...
> Alpine has not made an XM tuner for more than a year, they farmed it
> out to TURK.
> my guess is that this is the root of the problem since this unit is
> both XM and Sirius compatible.
>
> Alpine says that they cannot duplicate the problem, but when I talked
> to them friday they say i am not the only one with this issue.
>
> and you are right, I mis-spoke. I will be moving the HD radio and the
> processor to optical, leaving the XM unit as the only thing on the
> AINet chain.
>
> because I purchased the processor elsewhere(sonomaxaudio.com), the
> installer will not special order one just to check if mine is bad, I do
> have the option to mailing it to alpine for warranty repair, but I am
> sure they will tell me there is nothing wrong with it.
>
>
> Pat M wrote:
>> What is the XM tuner then you are using if it is not an Alpine? I know
>> the
>> Alpine T020XM tuner doesn't have optical out so would be interested in
>> seeing one that does and has AI Net control. I know you wouldn't want to
>> but then again I would demand that your installer or who ever you
>> purchased
>> the system from to order up another headunit and processor so they can
>> figure out what the problem is. I know you are sick of going back and
>> forth
>> to figure out the issue but unfortunately that is the fun part of
>> enjoying a
>> great sounding audio system.
>>
>> How about Alpine? Why aren't they taking each piece and putting it on
>> the
>> test bench and seeing what they come up with. If they say there isn't a
>> problem then I would have the dealer send them your stuff or what ever
>> has
>> tested bad back to Alpine and have them figure it out. They are the
>> manufacturers so they need to lend some sort of a hand.
>> --
>> Pat M
>> > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>> >I was able to get it to freeze up while there, but that didn't do them
>> > any good.
>> > everyones "Best guess" is that it is the combination of everything on
>> > the AINet chain.
>> > in order for the installer to do it "the right way", they would have to
>> > replace one piece at a time and after each piece, drive it around for
>> > up to 40 mins. they are obviously not in a hurry to do that(also,
>> > they don't stock the head unit or processor). I am not convinced that
>> > there is a single "Bad Unit" in the chain, I think it has to do with
>> > the combination of everything. also Alpine does not actually make the
>> > XM interface, they farmed it out to Turk and it is not an XM only unit.
>> > it also works with Sirius.
>> > I would guess that it is somehow sending some electronic signal for a
>> > Sirius Tuner that the XM unit doesn't recognize and it putting it into
>> > some kind of "loop" that locks up.
>> > this weekedn I am going to switch the XM and HD unit to use the Optical
>> > cords and get them off the AINet chain.
>> >
>> > Tony F wrote:
>> >> I'd try to get the unit to freeze up, and instead of fixing it, leave
>> >> it
>> >> that way and drive straight to your installer and have them see it for
>> >> themselves. Or, you could video tape it if you have a recorder and
>> >> show
>> >> them the video. I had an intermittent problem with my mostly-Alpine
>> >> DVD
>> >> system in my Mustang. It also was difficult to troubleshoot.
>> >> Luckily,
>> >> the
>> >> problem fixed itself over time...not sure what that was all about.
>> >>
>> >> If nothing else, you could try leaving your car with your insaller for
>> >> a
>> >> day
>> >> for them to play around with it.
>> >>
>> >> Tony
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ---
>> >> 2001 Chevy S10 ZR2
>> >> Pioneer DEH-P9600MP Head Unit, Phoenix Gold Ti500.4 Amp, Focal 165HC
>> >> Speakers & Image Dynamics ID8 D4 v.3 Sub
>> >>
>> >> 2006 Mustang GT Coupe
>> >> Alpine IVA-D310 DVD Head Unit, Alpine MRA-550 Digital 5.1 Amp, Boston
>> >> Acoustics Z-Series Speakers, Alpine SBS-05DC Center Channel Speaker,
>> >> Amplified MTX Thunderform Sub
>> >
>

[Brandonb]

If it makes you feel any better, I have the actual Alpine XM tuner and
an Alpine 6-disk MP3 CD-changer daisy-chained via AI-Net and often have
issues with the audio "moving" to the XM when I leave it on the
CD-Changer and turn the vehicle off and back on (like going into work,
and then coming back at the end of the day). I don't get the lock-up
issue, but it is still annoying to have to switch the input to the XM
and then BACK to the changer (it will keep the CD playing also, and
display as such, just the audio signal is different). This occurs on
several Alpine HUs that I've used. As its all connected as the
instructions indicate, and there's really no other way to do it, I'm
assuming its an issue with the AI-Net communication protocol itself.

Brandonb


wrote:

> I was hoping that someone had a similar issue and could suggest
> something, but I am tired of going back to the installer twice a week
> and waiting around for an hour or more each time..

[[email protected]]

BKOLFO4 - Yes, you are correct however I do have the c-701 controller
for my hva-701 processor and prefer using that because it is much
easier to navigate around than doing it on the HU.

we did the change to Optical about a week 1/2 ago, and it has not
helped. if anything it has made it worse because now it locks up even
faster. before it took 30-40 mins before it would lock up, now it will
happen after just a few minutes.

I am getting pretty frustrated and almost ready to go back to Kenwood
equipment.
I am getting a new HU put in today and if that doesn't work, we will
try a new HD.
but since I didn't buy the processor from my installer, I would have to
send it into alpine and wait for them to send it back, not an
attractive option but I am running out of things to try.



Pat M wrote:
> You are correct. The optical is only the audio and control is still done
> through the AI Net. Now it could be an audio glitch that is locking up the
> processor.
> --
> Pat M
> "BKOLFO4" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > I thought when you move the components to optical, that just changes how
> > the audio is transfered. You still need the AiNet to be able to control
> > the component, correct? I use the optical on my processor, but without
> > the AiNet, I am only able to contol it using the remote display of the
> > processor - I can no longer control it from the HU.
> >
> >
> > --
> > BKOLFO4

[[email protected]]

It turns out that it was all the Head Unit. they installed a new one
last weekend and I haven't had the problem since. Yeah!!
I want to add a DVD/CD changer to the system, but I am a little afraid
of causing more issues...


wrote:
> Alpine has not made an XM tuner for more than a year, they farmed it
> out to TURK.
> my guess is that this is the root of the problem since this unit is
> both XM and Sirius compatible.
>
> Alpine says that they cannot duplicate the problem, but when I talked
> to them friday they say i am not the only one with this issue.
>
> and you are right, I mis-spoke. I will be moving the HD radio and the
> processor to optical, leaving the XM unit as the only thing on the
> AINet chain.
>
> because I purchased the processor elsewhere(sonomaxaudio.com), the
> installer will not special order one just to check if mine is bad, I do
> have the option to mailing it to alpine for warranty repair, but I am
> sure they will tell me there is nothing wrong with it.
>
>
> Pat M wrote:
> > What is the XM tuner then you are using if it is not an Alpine? I know the
> > Alpine T020XM tuner doesn't have optical out so would be interested in
> > seeing one that does and has AI Net control. I know you wouldn't want to
> > but then again I would demand that your installer or who ever you purchased
> > the system from to order up another headunit and processor so they can
> > figure out what the problem is. I know you are sick of going back and forth
> > to figure out the issue but unfortunately that is the fun part of enjoying a
> > great sounding audio system.
> >
> > How about Alpine? Why aren't they taking each piece and putting it on the
> > test bench and seeing what they come up with. If they say there isn't a
> > problem then I would have the dealer send them your stuff or what ever has
> > tested bad back to Alpine and have them figure it out. They are the
> > manufacturers so they need to lend some sort of a hand.
> > --
> > Pat M
> > > wrote in message
> > oups.com...
> > >I was able to get it to freeze up while there, but that didn't do them
> > > any good.
> > > everyones "Best guess" is that it is the combination of everything on
> > > the AINet chain.
> > > in order for the installer to do it "the right way", they would have to
> > > replace one piece at a time and after each piece, drive it around for
> > > up to 40 mins. they are obviously not in a hurry to do that(also,
> > > they don't stock the head unit or processor). I am not convinced that
> > > there is a single "Bad Unit" in the chain, I think it has to do with
> > > the combination of everything. also Alpine does not actually make the
> > > XM interface, they farmed it out to Turk and it is not an XM only unit.
> > > it also works with Sirius.
> > > I would guess that it is somehow sending some electronic signal for a
> > > Sirius Tuner that the XM unit doesn't recognize and it putting it into
> > > some kind of "loop" that locks up.
> > > this weekedn I am going to switch the XM and HD unit to use the Optical
> > > cords and get them off the AINet chain.
> > >
> > > Tony F wrote:
> > >> I'd try to get the unit to freeze up, and instead of fixing it, leave it
> > >> that way and drive straight to your installer and have them see it for
> > >> themselves. Or, you could video tape it if you have a recorder and show
> > >> them the video. I had an intermittent problem with my mostly-Alpine DVD
> > >> system in my Mustang. It also was difficult to troubleshoot. Luckily,
> > >> the
> > >> problem fixed itself over time...not sure what that was all about.
> > >>
> > >> If nothing else, you could try leaving your car with your insaller for a
> > >> day
> > >> for them to play around with it.
> > >>
> > >> Tony
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ---
> > >> 2001 Chevy S10 ZR2
> > >> Pioneer DEH-P9600MP Head Unit, Phoenix Gold Ti500.4 Amp, Focal 165HC
> > >> Speakers & Image Dynamics ID8 D4 v.3 Sub
> > >>
> > >> 2006 Mustang GT Coupe
> > >> Alpine IVA-D310 DVD Head Unit, Alpine MRA-550 Digital 5.1 Amp, Boston
> > >> Acoustics Z-Series Speakers, Alpine SBS-05DC Center Channel Speaker,
> > >> Amplified MTX Thunderform Sub
> > >