Sound on copied DVDs

[Randall Simons]

Has anyone used 123 Copy DVD to burn DVDs? I'm pretty sure
I'll get it, since it's priced right and seems to be capable of
doing everything I need it to, but I want to make sure it does a
good job on the sound. It's pretty new and there aren't many in-
depth reviews yet.

Opinions?

Randy Simons

[CJT]

Randall Simons wrote:

> Has anyone used 123 Copy DVD to burn DVDs? I'm pretty sure
> I'll get it, since it's priced right and seems to be capable of
> doing everything I need it to, but I want to make sure it does a
> good job on the sound. It's pretty new and there aren't many in-
> depth reviews yet.
>
> Opinions?
>
> Randy Simons

Why not just go back to your originals? Or are you copying
somebody else's materials?

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Randall Simons > wrote in
k.net:

> Has anyone used 123 Copy DVD to burn DVDs? I'm pretty sure
> I'll get it, since it's priced right and seems to be capable of
> doing everything I need it to, but I want to make sure it does a
> good job on the sound. It's pretty new and there aren't many in-
> depth reviews yet.
>
> Opinions?
>
> Randy Simons

I use 123 copy, and I find no distinguishable differences in sound quality
between copies and originals. The program is also very easy to use.

[unitron]

" > wrote in message >...
> Randall Simons > wrote in
> k.net:
>
> > Has anyone used 123 Copy DVD to burn DVDs? I'm pretty sure
> > I'll get it, since it's priced right and seems to be capable of
> > doing everything I need it to, but I want to make sure it does a
> > good job on the sound. It's pretty new and there aren't many in-
> > depth reviews yet.
> >
> > Opinions?
> >
> > Randy Simons
>
> I use 123 copy, and I find no distinguishable differences in sound quality
> between copies and originals. The program is also very easy to use.


If it's digital, why would there be *any* difference in either the
sound or the picture between the original and the copy?

[George M. Middius]

unitron said:

> If it's digital, why would there be *any* difference in either the
> sound or the picture between the original and the copy?

Are you kidding? Bits are like fleas, only smaller. Ever tried to herd a
bunch of fleas along a little pathway? It's almost impossible to keep
them together. One of them smells a dog half a mile a way, and he's
gone. Bits are the same way. They'll follow some cute electron out the
tiniest little door, and bam! you lost 1/200 of a second of data.
They're not well behaved at all.

[unitron]

George M. Middius > wrote in message >...
> unitron said:
>
> > If it's digital, why would there be *any* difference in either the
> > sound or the picture between the original and the copy?
>
> Are you kidding? Bits are like fleas, only smaller. Ever tried to herd a
> bunch of fleas along a little pathway? It's almost impossible to keep
> them together. One of them smells a dog half a mile a way, and he's
> gone. Bits are the same way. They'll follow some cute electron out the
> tiniest little door, and bam! you lost 1/200 of a second of data.
> They're not well behaved at all.


I was about to tell the moderators to give you a +1 Funny when I
realised that I wasn't on Slashdot :-)

[Guinness Mann]

unitron wrote:
> If it's digital, why would there be *any* difference in either the
> sound or the picture between the original and the copy?

Because most DVDs won't fit on DVD+/-R media. All of the DVD copy
programs I know about either leave some things off the copy (typically
at least some of the audio info) or add compression.

That's why the OPs question was cogent.

-- Rick

[Arny Krueger]

Guinness Mann wrote:
> unitron wrote:
>> If it's digital, why would there be *any* difference in either the
>> sound or the picture between the original and the copy?
>
> Because most DVDs won't fit on DVD+/-R media.

That applies only to DVD's that have more than one layer.

> All of the DVD copy
> programs I know about either leave some things off the copy (typically
> at least some of the audio info) or add compression.

No, they just copy the data to more than one piece of DVD-R media,

[BBB]

So how does a computer work with all the missing bits?


"George M. Middius" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> unitron said:
>
> > If it's digital, why would there be *any* difference in either the
> > sound or the picture between the original and the copy?
>
> Are you kidding? Bits are like fleas, only smaller. Ever tried to herd a
> bunch of fleas along a little pathway? It's almost impossible to keep
> them together. One of them smells a dog half a mile a way, and he's
> gone. Bits are the same way. They'll follow some cute electron out the
> tiniest little door, and bam! you lost 1/200 of a second of data.
> They're not well behaved at all.
>
>
>

[George M. Middius]

BBB Shelleyed:

> > > If it's digital, why would there be *any* difference in either the
> > > sound or the picture between the original and the copy?
> >
> > Are you kidding? Bits are like fleas, only smaller. Ever tried to herd a
> > bunch of fleas along a little pathway? It's almost impossible to keep
> > them together. One of them smells a dog half a mile a way, and he's
> > gone. Bits are the same way. They'll follow some cute electron out the
> > tiniest little door, and bam! you lost 1/200 of a second of data.
> > They're not well behaved at all.

> So how does a computer work with all the missing bits?

Bits are data. Computers use electrons.

[Mark]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message >...
> Guinness Mann wrote:
> > unitron wrote:
> >> If it's digital, why would there be *any* difference in either the
> >> sound or the picture between the original and the copy?
> >
> > Because most DVDs won't fit on DVD+/-R media.
>
> That applies only to DVD's that have more than one layer.
>
> > All of the DVD copy
> > programs I know about either leave some things off the copy (typically
> > at least some of the audio info) or add compression.
>
> No, they just copy the data to more than one piece of DVD-R media,

DVD X-Copy is the only DVD copying software that I know of that will
split a dual layer disc on to two singles, but I haven't done a lot of
looking for other programs to do this. Most of the others, such as DVD
Shrink or X-Copy Express, do require removing unwanted soundtracks
and/or some level of video compression. Some do it automatically, and
others allow you to make you own choices.

Mark

[Arny Krueger]

Mark wrote:
> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> >...
>> Guinness Mann wrote:
>>> unitron wrote:

>>>> If it's digital, why would there be *any* difference in either
>>>> the sound or the picture between the original and the copy?

>>> Because most DVDs won't fit on DVD+/-R media.

>> That applies only to DVD's that have more than one layer.

>>> All of the DVD copy
>>> programs I know about either leave some things off the copy
>>> (typically at least some of the audio info) or add compression.

>> No, they just copy the data to more than one piece of DVD-R media,

> DVD X-Copy is the only DVD copying software that I know of that will
> split a dual layer disc on to two singles, but I haven't done a lot of
> looking for other programs to do this.


> Most of the others, such as DVD Shrink

The name seems to be making a statement, here!

But, you are right and I was wrong about its function.

>or X-Copy Express,

Also clearly described as a program that does data reduction.

But, you are right and I was wrong about its function.

> do require removing unwanted soundtracks
> and/or some level of video compression. Some do it automatically, and
> others allow you to make you own choices.

It seems like there is no secret about what they do.