best way to fake a car antenna?

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Hi, I posted a week or so ago about the car stereo in home bit. Thanks
for the help.

What would be the best way to fake an antenna for the stereo? It's a
sony plain jane tape deck, and I need an antenna for it to pick up
radio. What would be a good route to go? Do they sell just the plug-in
part at auto stores, without buying a whole antenna set? I want to
spend as little money as possible, as well as try and not get dirty
going to a parts yard and fooling around trying to rip one out of a
junker.

Are there substitutes for this? I mean it's basically a big RCA looking
plug, I don't know how it attaches to the cord, whether it's separable
or inseparable, are there any other places to look where I might find
one for cheap? Does any other electronic use them? Anything I could use
in its place?

Thanks.

[KU40]

find a metal rake and hook a wire from the antenna input on the receiver
to the bottom of the rake. worked when we were in the boonies in
missouri. oh, and you might have to lean it up against a tire also.

or, plan B.......go to a stereo shop and buy the input connector (big
RCA looking plug) and basically all you need is a wire extending from
that.........upwards.


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KU40

[GregS]

In article om>, wrote:
>Hi, I posted a week or so ago about the car stereo in home bit. Thanks
>for the help.
>
>What would be the best way to fake an antenna for the stereo? It's a
>sony plain jane tape deck, and I need an antenna for it to pick up
>radio. What would be a good route to go? Do they sell just the plug-in
>part at auto stores, without buying a whole antenna set? I want to
>spend as little money as possible, as well as try and not get dirty
>going to a parts yard and fooling around trying to rip one out of a
>junker.
>
>Are there substitutes for this? I mean it's basically a big RCA looking
>plug, I don't know how it attaches to the cord, whether it's separable
>or inseparable, are there any other places to look where I might find
>one for cheap? Does any other electronic use them? Anything I could use
>in its place?

Well check out the auto parts store. Might have something. Seems
like sombody sold stick on window antenas. I believe the connector is of a Motorola
type, probably called Motorola connector. Yes I have stuck things inside
to get some reception.

greg

[GregS]

In article >, (GregS) wrote:
>In article om>,
> wrote:
>>Hi, I posted a week or so ago about the car stereo in home bit. Thanks
>>for the help.
>>
>>What would be the best way to fake an antenna for the stereo? It's a
>>sony plain jane tape deck, and I need an antenna for it to pick up
>>radio. What would be a good route to go? Do they sell just the plug-in
>>part at auto stores, without buying a whole antenna set? I want to
>>spend as little money as possible, as well as try and not get dirty
>>going to a parts yard and fooling around trying to rip one out of a
>>junker.
>>
>>Are there substitutes for this? I mean it's basically a big RCA looking
>>plug, I don't know how it attaches to the cord, whether it's separable
>>or inseparable, are there any other places to look where I might find
>>one for cheap? Does any other electronic use them? Anything I could use
>>in its place?
>
>Well check out the auto parts store. Might have something. Seems
>like sombody sold stick on window antenas. I believe the connector is of a
> Motorola
>type, probably called Motorola connector. Yes I have stuck things inside
>to get some reception.

Motor Rola. Hey hey

They probably made the first car radio.

greg

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Yeah,

I just ended up crimping some copper wire and sticking it in the hole,
and it works good.

Thanks.

[KU40]

that's what I did for my antenna on my home receiver. lost the FM
connector, so I just stuck the bare AM wire (who uses AM anyways?) into
the FM input. antennae are just glorified wires anyways.


--
KU40

[Matt Ion]

Just out of curiosity, why ARE you going to all this effort to get a car stereo
working in the house? I mean, if it's just for experimentation, that's cool,
but it's sure a lot of messing around for a home stereo :)

[GregS]

In article <MRbVg.96733$R63.34204@pd7urf1no>, Matt Ion > wrote:
>Just out of curiosity, why ARE you going to all this effort to get a car stereo
>
>working in the house? I mean, if it's just for experimentation, that's cool,
>but it's sure a lot of messing around for a home stereo :)

Car radios should have the best performance as far as sensitivity
or signal to noise ratio. They definately have better multipath
circuits, so it all depends on the stations reception needs.
How many home receivers have pushbutton station changing?

greg

[Matt Ion]

GregS wrote:
> In article <MRbVg.96733$R63.34204@pd7urf1no>, Matt Ion > wrote:
>
>>Just out of curiosity, why ARE you going to all this effort to get a car stereo
>>
>>working in the house? I mean, if it's just for experimentation, that's cool,
>>but it's sure a lot of messing around for a home stereo :)
>
>
> Car radios should have the best performance as far as sensitivity
> or signal to noise ratio.

I'd think a good shotwave set would have that hands-down...

> How many home receivers have pushbutton station changing?

Many better shortwave sets.

[GregS]

In article <KicVg.92084$1T2.2560@pd7urf2no>, Matt Ion > wrote:
>GregS wrote:
>> In article <MRbVg.96733$R63.34204@pd7urf1no>, Matt Ion >
> wrote:
>>
>>>Just out of curiosity, why ARE you going to all this effort to get a car
> stereo
>>>
>>>working in the house? I mean, if it's just for experimentation, that's cool,
>
>>>but it's sure a lot of messing around for a home stereo :)
>>
>>
>> Car radios should have the best performance as far as sensitivity
>> or signal to noise ratio.
>
>I'd think a good shotwave set would have that hands-down...
>
>> How many home receivers have pushbutton station changing?
>
>Many better shortwave sets.

We are talking FM here. The world of capture ratios and I really don't know about HD radio!
I have and used to have another analog dial FM in my stereo, but
forget about quickly changing stations. I forgot about the last tuner I
had hooked up in the old house. It had pushbuttons, and I have other
tuners with pushbuttons, so I now remember.

greg

[Matt Ion]

GregS wrote:
> In article <KicVg.92084$1T2.2560@pd7urf2no>, Matt Ion > wrote:
>
>>GregS wrote:
>>
>>>In article <MRbVg.96733$R63.34204@pd7urf1no>, Matt Ion >
>>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>Just out of curiosity, why ARE you going to all this effort to get a car
>>
>>stereo
>>
>>>>working in the house? I mean, if it's just for experimentation, that's cool,
>>
>>>>but it's sure a lot of messing around for a home stereo :)
>>>
>>>
>>>Car radios should have the best performance as far as sensitivity
>>>or signal to noise ratio.
>>
>>I'd think a good shotwave set would have that hands-down...
>>
>>
>>>How many home receivers have pushbutton station changing?
>>
>>Many better shortwave sets.
>
>
> We are talking FM here.

YOU'RE talking FM. I didn't see any mention of it from the OP. Plus any decent
SW set is going to have FM support as well.

> The world of capture ratios and I really don't know about HD radio!
> I have and used to have another analog dial FM in my stereo, but
> forget about quickly changing stations.

Dude, that made no sense at all.

> I forgot about the last tuner I
> had hooked up in the old house. It had pushbuttons, and I have other
> tuners with pushbuttons, so I now remember.

I have at least two AM/FM home-stereo component tuners sitting around here that
have "pushbutton" memory tuning. It's not a RARE thing.

[[email protected]]

Matt Ion wrote:
> Just out of curiosity, why ARE you going to all this effort to get a car stereo
> working in the house? I mean, if it's just for experimentation, that's cool,
> but it's sure a lot of messing around for a home stereo :)

Basically for the fun of it. I have a car stereo laying around, why not
make it into a project? People build **** out of legos, why not do it
with real stuff? That's half the fun, trying to spend as little money
as possible, and use what you have, or can find. Kind of like a
scavenger hunt. Actually, EXACTLY like a scavenger hunt! :()

One question about the HU itself. I noticed this when it used to be
installed in my car, but forgot about it. It seems to be hard wired to
do a scan, instead of manual search. You push the button, and it scans.
You have to hold it in and push to get it to go one station at a time,
but if you listen to the station for more than 3 seconds, it defaults
back to scan, and you have to hold it in again.

I don't see a button to push to switch settings, would it take an
electronics engineer to break it apart and mess with the internals to
get it to manual search without constantly defaulting to scanning? It's
a Sony XR-1790.

Thanks.

[Cyrus]

In article >,
(GregS) wrote:

> In article <MRbVg.96733$R63.34204@pd7urf1no>, Matt Ion >
> wrote:
> >Just out of curiosity, why ARE you going to all this effort to get a car
> >stereo
> >
> >working in the house? I mean, if it's just for experimentation, that's
> >cool,
> >but it's sure a lot of messing around for a home stereo :)
>
> Car radios should have the best performance as far as sensitivity
> or signal to noise ratio. They definately have better multipath
> circuits, so it all depends on the stations reception needs.
> How many home receivers have pushbutton station changing?
>
> greg


Who listens to the radio?

--
-Cyrus

*coughcasaucedoprodigynetcough*

[Matt Ion]

wrote:
> Matt Ion wrote:
>
>>Just out of curiosity, why ARE you going to all this effort to get a car stereo
>>working in the house? I mean, if it's just for experimentation, that's cool,
>>but it's sure a lot of messing around for a home stereo :)
>
>
> Basically for the fun of it. I have a car stereo laying around, why not
> make it into a project? People build **** out of legos, why not do it
> with real stuff? That's half the fun, trying to spend as little money
> as possible, and use what you have, or can find. Kind of like a
> scavenger hunt. Actually, EXACTLY like a scavenger hunt! :()

Heheh, alright :) All good, it's nothing I haven't done myself, for pretty much
the same reasons :)

> One question about the HU itself. I noticed this when it used to be
> installed in my car, but forgot about it. It seems to be hard wired to
> do a scan, instead of manual search. You push the button, and it scans.
> You have to hold it in and push to get it to go one station at a time,
> but if you listen to the station for more than 3 seconds, it defaults
> back to scan, and you have to hold it in again.

Yah, a lot of cheaper decks do that... or the opposite, you have to hold the
button for a couple seconds before it will start to seek, which can often cause
it to miss nearby stations...

> I don't see a button to push to switch settings, would it take an
> electronics engineer to break it apart and mess with the internals to
> get it to manual search without constantly defaulting to scanning? It's
> a Sony XR-1790.

Probably would, yup.

[GregS]

In article <2AfVg.98395$R63.21686@pd7urf1no>, Matt Ion > wrote:
>GregS wrote:
>> In article <KicVg.92084$1T2.2560@pd7urf2no>, Matt Ion >
> wrote:
>>
>>>GregS wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <MRbVg.96733$R63.34204@pd7urf1no>, Matt Ion >
>>>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Just out of curiosity, why ARE you going to all this effort to get a car
>>>
>>>stereo
>>>
>>>>>working in the house? I mean, if it's just for experimentation, that's
> cool,
>>>
>>>>>but it's sure a lot of messing around for a home stereo :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Car radios should have the best performance as far as sensitivity
>>>>or signal to noise ratio.
>>>
>>>I'd think a good shotwave set would have that hands-down...
>>>
>>>
>>>>How many home receivers have pushbutton station changing?
>>>
>>>Many better shortwave sets.
>>
>>
>> We are talking FM here.
>
>YOU'RE talking FM. I didn't see any mention of it from the OP. Plus any
> decent
>SW set is going to have FM support as well.

The OP has not responded. I don't know, I have been in amateur radio for
46 years, and usually, only some cheap portable units might have FM.
I would agree there are some expensive all banders that do have FM.

>> The world of capture ratios and I really don't know about HD radio!
>> I have and used to have another analog dial FM in my stereo, but
>> forget about quickly changing stations.
>
>Dude, that made no sense at all.
>
>> I forgot about the last tuner I
>> had hooked up in the old house. It had pushbuttons, and I have other
>> tuners with pushbuttons, so I now remember.
>
>I have at least two AM/FM home-stereo component tuners sitting around here that
>
>have "pushbutton" memory tuning. It's not a RARE thing.

I have more than that, i believe I corrected myself. I have a stack of stereo equipment
about 5X4X4 feet large, not including speakers, sitting in the basement. Much of it was
being fixed from Ebay, but I have not had a chance to get things going since my house move.
Anxious to start making my home theater room.

The last tuner I had hooked up in the old house was an Adcom. The last tuner I
gave away for free was a Mitsubitsu DA-F10 which was my staple for many years, no
pushbuttons.

greg