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Eeyore
September 28th 06, 03:36 PM
Hi Arny,

I recognise your skills in the PC soundcard area and associated ABX
testing.

I am however puzzled why you stray outside your area of expertise in
what I can only call a perverse desire to find wrong with any poster you
happen to disagree with.

May I suggest to you that you take stock and consider carefully your
motives in this absurd war you seek to wage with your demons.


Graham

George M. Middius
September 28th 06, 04:00 PM
Poopie said:

> Hi Arny,
>
> I recognise your skills in the PC soundcard area and associated ABX
> testing.
>
> I am however puzzled why you stray outside your area of expertise in
> what I can only call a perverse desire to find wrong with any poster you
> happen to disagree with.
>
> May I suggest to you that you take stock and consider carefully your
> motives in this absurd war you seek to wage with your demons.


Gold star for Mr. Donkey.



--

"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

September 28th 06, 08:28 PM
Eeyore wrote:
> Hi Arny,
>
> I recognise your skills in the PC soundcard area and associated ABX
> testing.
>
> I am however puzzled why you stray outside your area of expertise in
> what I can only call a perverse desire to find wrong with any poster you
> happen to disagree with.
>
> May I suggest to you that you take stock and consider carefully your
> motives in this absurd war you seek to wage with your demons.
>
>
> Graham



Hi RATs!

Golly, Graham, when was the last time you enjoyed listening to a piece
of tube gear?

Happy Ears!
Al

September 28th 06, 08:42 PM
Eeyore wrote:
> Hi Arny,
>
> I recognise your skills in the PC soundcard area and associated ABX
> testing.
>
> I am however puzzled why you stray outside your area of expertise in
> what I can only call a perverse desire to find wrong with any poster you
> happen to disagree with.
>
> May I suggest to you that you take stock and consider carefully your
> motives in this absurd war you seek to wage with your demons.
>
>
> Graham

Don't make me like you, dude.

Boon

dizzy
September 29th 06, 02:15 AM
Eeyore wrote:

>May I suggest to you that you take stock and consider carefully your
>motives in this absurd war you seek to wage with your demons.

His war against Jenn is most pathetic. He's losing badly, and making
a total ass of himself in the process.

Arny Krueger
September 29th 06, 02:20 AM
"dizzy" > wrote in message

> Eeyore wrote:
>
>> May I suggest to you that you take stock and consider
>> carefully your motives in this absurd war you seek to
>> wage with your demons.
>
> His war against Jenn is most pathetic.

Jenn started it.

> He's losing badly, and making a total ass of himself in the process.

That's why Jenn is running around denying reality, and making up new lines
of attack.

Eeyore
September 29th 06, 04:50 AM
" wrote:

> Eeyore wrote:
> > Hi Arny,
> >
> > I recognise your skills in the PC soundcard area and associated ABX
> > testing.
> >
> > I am however puzzled why you stray outside your area of expertise in
> > what I can only call a perverse desire to find wrong with any poster you
> > happen to disagree with.
> >
> > May I suggest to you that you take stock and consider carefully your
> > motives in this absurd war you seek to wage with your demons.
> >
> >
> > Graham
>
> Hi RATs!
>
> Golly, Graham, when was the last time you enjoyed listening to a piece
> of tube gear?

Tthe last time I heard a band play so that'll be last Saturday.

Graham

Eeyore
September 29th 06, 04:51 AM
dizzy wrote:

> Eeyore wrote:
>
> >May I suggest to you that you take stock and consider carefully your
> >motives in this absurd war you seek to wage with your demons.
>
> His war against Jenn is most pathetic. He's losing badly, and making
> a total ass of himself in the process.

It makes no sense whatever. I do wish he wouldn't do this kind of thing.

Graham

Eeyore
September 29th 06, 05:08 AM
Arny Krueger wrote:

> "dizzy" > wrote
> > Eeyore wrote:
> >
> >> May I suggest to you that you take stock and consider
> >> carefully your motives in this absurd war you seek to
> >> wage with your demons.
> >
> > His war against Jenn is most pathetic.
>
> Jenn started it.

Whether or not that's true, it's still a pathetic excuse to trot out.

Graham

Jenn
September 29th 06, 06:44 AM
In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "dizzy" > wrote in message
>
> > Eeyore wrote:
> >
> >> May I suggest to you that you take stock and consider
> >> carefully your motives in this absurd war you seek to
> >> wage with your demons.
> >
> > His war against Jenn is most pathetic.
>
> Jenn started it.

lol

>
> > He's losing badly, and making a total ass of himself in the process.
>
> That's why Jenn is running around denying reality, and making up new lines
> of attack.

What reality have I denied and what have I made up, Arny?

September 29th 06, 06:55 AM
Eeyore wrote:
> " wrote:
> >
> > Hi RATs!
> >
> > Golly, Graham, when was the last time you enjoyed listening to a piece
> > of tube gear?
>
> Tthe last time I heard a band play so that'll be last Saturday.
>
> Graham

Hi RATs!

Wonderful. Thank you :)

Happy Ears!
Al

September 29th 06, 07:35 AM
Arny Krueger wrote:
> "dizzy" > wrote in message
>
> > Eeyore wrote:
> >
> >> May I suggest to you that you take stock and consider
> >> carefully your motives in this absurd war you seek to
> >> wage with your demons.
> >
> > His war against Jenn is most pathetic.
>
> Jenn started it.
>
> > He's losing badly, and making a total ass of himself in the process.
>
> That's why Jenn is running around denying reality, and making up new lines
> of attack.

Nobody's listening.

Boon

Jenn
September 29th 06, 07:45 AM
In article . com>,
wrote:

> Arny Krueger wrote:
> > "dizzy" > wrote in message
> >
> > > Eeyore wrote:
> > >
> > >> May I suggest to you that you take stock and consider
> > >> carefully your motives in this absurd war you seek to
> > >> wage with your demons.
> > >
> > > His war against Jenn is most pathetic.
> >
> > Jenn started it.
> >
> > > He's losing badly, and making a total ass of himself in the process.
> >
> > That's why Jenn is running around denying reality, and making up new lines
> > of attack.
>
> Nobody's listening.
>
> Boon

No doubt.

Arny Krueger
September 29th 06, 10:50 AM
"Eeyore" > wrote in
message
> Arny Krueger wrote:
>
>> "dizzy" > wrote
>>> Eeyore wrote:
>>>
>>>> May I suggest to you that you take stock and consider
>>>> carefully your motives in this absurd war you seek to
>>>> wage with your demons.
>>>
>>> His war against Jenn is most pathetic.
>>
>> Jenn started it.

Jenn can stop it.

> Whether or not that's true, it's still a pathetic excuse
> to trot out.

No excuses are required when truth prevails. It may have been a tough and
confusing week for some, but any number of uncomfortable technical truths
about audio were exposed.

Arny Krueger
September 29th 06, 10:51 AM
"Jenn" > wrote in
message


>> That's why Jenn is running around denying reality, and
>> making up new lines of attack.

> What reality have I denied and what have I made up, Arny?

I know better than to answer this question Jenn, because no matter what I
say that cuts to the chase, you'll deny it, and call me a liar for my
trouble.

Arny Krueger
September 29th 06, 10:52 AM
> wrote in message
oups.com
> Arny Krueger wrote:
>> "dizzy" > wrote in message
>>
>>> Eeyore wrote:
>>>
>>>> May I suggest to you that you take stock and consider
>>>> carefully your motives in this absurd war you seek to
>>>> wage with your demons.
>>>
>>> His war against Jenn is most pathetic.
>>
>> Jenn started it.
>>
>>> He's losing badly, and making a total ass of himself
>>> in the process.
>>
>> That's why Jenn is running around denying reality, and
>> making up new lines of attack.
>
> Nobody's listening.

You are, you posted a response.

Gotcha!

again.

Mr Fox
September 29th 06, 11:22 AM
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 05:50:23 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
wrote:

>>>>> May I suggest to you that you take stock and consider
>>>>> carefully your motives in this absurd war you seek to
>>>>> wage with your demons.
>>>>
>>>> His war against Jenn is most pathetic.
>>>
>>> Jenn started it.
>
>Jenn can stop it.

She can't "stop it" in the sense of getting you to stop interjecting
her discussions, stopping the verbal vendetta you have started against
her, nor stopping you being intellectually dishonest when you respond
to her. Only one person can stop that, it's you.

This little game of yours was probably a bit of a chuckle back in the
mid to late 90s, then something traumatic happened and subsequently it
has become one of the primary focuses in life. You are depressed, and
sparring on Usenet only provides temporary relief. Do yourself and
your family a favor: change.

Mr Fox
September 29th 06, 11:28 AM
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 05:52:21 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
wrote:

>> Nobody's listening.
>
>You are, you posted a response.
>
>Gotcha!
>
>again.

Oh yes, you got him real good that time. A real achievement. Crack
open the champagne.

Arny Krueger
September 29th 06, 11:31 AM
"Mr Fox" > wrote in message

> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 05:50:23 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
> > wrote:
>
>>>>>> May I suggest to you that you take stock and consider
>>>>>> carefully your motives in this absurd war you seek to
>>>>>> wage with your demons.
>>>>>
>>>>> His war against Jenn is most pathetic.
>>>>
>>>> Jenn started it.
>>
>> Jenn can stop it.
>
> She can't "stop it" in the sense of getting you to stop
> interjecting her discussions, stopping the verbal
> vendetta you have started against her, nor stopping you
> being intellectually dishonest when you respond to her.
> Only one person can stop that, it's you.

As long as Jenn talks about me or my web site or the ideas I've recently
presented here, she's implicity demanding that I reply.

"Dropping it" means dropping it. Completely.

> This little game of yours was probably a bit of a chuckle
> back in the mid to late 90s, then something traumatic
> happened and subsequently it has become one of the
> primary focuses in life. You are depressed, and sparring
> on Usenet only provides temporary relief. Do yourself and
> your family a favor: change.

Good advice for you to take, Mr. Sockpuppet. Of course you've got yourself
convinced that interjecting yourself into conversations like this isn't a
little game that you play. No, you're saving the world from me and me from
myself.

Arny Krueger
September 29th 06, 11:32 AM
"Mr Fox" > wrote in message

> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 05:52:21 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
> > wrote:
>
>>> Nobody's listening.
>>
>> You are, you posted a response.
>>
>> Gotcha!
>>
>> again.
>
> Oh yes, you got him real good that time. A real
> achievement. Crack open the champagne.

Turnabout is fair play, or isn't it?

Nice job of trying to interject yourself into a coversation that you had no
logical part in, by the way.

Jon Yaeger
September 29th 06, 11:50 AM
in article
,
Jenn at wrote on 9/29/06 1:44 AM:

> In article >,
> "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
>> "dizzy" > wrote in message
>>
>>> Eeyore wrote:
>>>
>>>> May I suggest to you that you take stock and consider
>>>> carefully your motives in this absurd war you seek to
>>>> wage with your demons.
>>>
>>> His war against Jenn is most pathetic.
>>
>> Jenn started it.
>
> lol
>
>>
>>> He's losing badly, and making a total ass of himself in the process.
>>
>> That's why Jenn is running around denying reality, and making up new lines
>> of attack.
>
> What reality have I denied and what have I made up, Arny?


Hey Sweetie,

Can you unclick "rec.audio.tubes" from the To: list when you have these
meaningful exchanges?

Thanks!

George M. Middius
September 29th 06, 01:24 PM
Jenn said:

> > > That's why Jenn is running around denying reality, and making up new lines
> > > of attack.

> > Nobody's listening.

> No doubt.

Some of us are laughing, though.

You go, Arnii! ;-)




--

"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

September 29th 06, 03:37 PM
Arny Krueger wrote:
> > wrote in message
> oups.com
> > Arny Krueger wrote:
> >> "dizzy" > wrote in message
> >>
> >>> Eeyore wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> May I suggest to you that you take stock and consider
> >>>> carefully your motives in this absurd war you seek to
> >>>> wage with your demons.
> >>>
> >>> His war against Jenn is most pathetic.
> >>
> >> Jenn started it.
> >>
> >>> He's losing badly, and making a total ass of himself
> >>> in the process.
> >>
> >> That's why Jenn is running around denying reality, and
> >> making up new lines of attack.
> >
> > Nobody's listening.
>
> You are, you posted a response.
>
> Gotcha!
>
> again.

Pathetic.

Boon

Jenn
September 29th 06, 04:00 PM
In article >,
Jon Yaeger > wrote:

> in article
> ,
> Jenn at wrote on 9/29/06 1:44 AM:
>
> > In article >,
> > "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> >
> >> "dizzy" > wrote in message
> >>
> >>> Eeyore wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> May I suggest to you that you take stock and consider
> >>>> carefully your motives in this absurd war you seek to
> >>>> wage with your demons.
> >>>
> >>> His war against Jenn is most pathetic.
> >>
> >> Jenn started it.
> >
> > lol
> >
> >>
> >>> He's losing badly, and making a total ass of himself in the process.
> >>
> >> That's why Jenn is running around denying reality, and making up new lines
> >> of attack.
> >
> > What reality have I denied and what have I made up, Arny?
>
>
> Hey Sweetie,
>
> Can you unclick "rec.audio.tubes" from the To: list when you have these
> meaningful exchanges?
>
> Thanks!

Oops, sorry for not noticing. I stopped about 4 threads from reaching
you guys early this week...I'll pay more attention, Sweetie.

September 29th 06, 04:26 PM
Arny Krueger wrote:
> "Mr Fox" > wrote in message
>
> > On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 05:50:23 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>>>>> May I suggest to you that you take stock and consider
> >>>>>> carefully your motives in this absurd war you seek to
> >>>>>> wage with your demons.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> His war against Jenn is most pathetic.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jenn started it.
> >>
> >> Jenn can stop it.
> >
> > She can't "stop it" in the sense of getting you to stop
> > interjecting her discussions, stopping the verbal
> > vendetta you have started against her, nor stopping you
> > being intellectually dishonest when you respond to her.
> > Only one person can stop that, it's you.
>
> As long as Jenn talks about me or my web site or the ideas I've recently
> presented here, she's implicity demanding that I reply.
>
> "Dropping it" means dropping it. Completely.
>
> > This little game of yours was probably a bit of a chuckle
> > back in the mid to late 90s, then something traumatic
> > happened and subsequently it has become one of the
> > primary focuses in life. You are depressed, and sparring
> > on Usenet only provides temporary relief. Do yourself and
> > your family a favor: change.
>
> Good advice for you to take, Mr. Sockpuppet. Of course you've got yourself
> convinced that interjecting yourself into conversations like this isn't a
> little game that you play. No, you're saving the world from me and me from
> myself.

All you have to do is show this thread to your wife, or your clergyman,
or a shrink, or your children, or anyone you trust, if there is anyone
a paranoid whack-job like yourself would trust. It's all you have to
do.

Boon

Jenn
September 29th 06, 04:42 PM
In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in
> message
>
>
> >> That's why Jenn is running around denying reality, and
> >> making up new lines of attack.
>
> > What reality have I denied and what have I made up, Arny?
>
> I know better than to answer this question Jenn, because no matter what I
> say that cuts to the chase, you'll deny it, and call me a liar for my
> trouble.

Only when you lie. Can you give one example of a time when I've said
you lied when you didn't?

Arny Krueger
September 29th 06, 04:58 PM
"Jenn" > wrote in
message

> In article >,
> "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
>> "Jenn" > wrote in
>> message
>>
>>
>>>> That's why Jenn is running around denying reality, and
>>>> making up new lines of attack.
>>
>>> What reality have I denied and what have I made up,
>>> Arny?
>>
>> I know better than to answer this question Jenn, because
>> no matter what I say that cuts to the chase, you'll deny
>> it, and call me a liar for my trouble.
>
> Only when you lie. Can you give one example of a time
> when I've said you lied when you didn't?

I could, but of course it would be a waste of my time. See above.

If you're into listing lies, list mine with full Google references.

Mr Fox
September 29th 06, 08:53 PM
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 06:31:52 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
wrote:

>"Mr Fox" > wrote in message

>> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 05:50:23 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> May I suggest to you that you take stock and consider
>>>>>>> carefully your motives in this absurd war you seek to
>>>>>>> wage with your demons.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> His war against Jenn is most pathetic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jenn started it.
>>>
>>> Jenn can stop it.
>>
>> She can't "stop it" in the sense of getting you to stop
>> interjecting her discussions, stopping the verbal
>> vendetta you have started against her, nor stopping you
>> being intellectually dishonest when you respond to her.
>> Only one person can stop that, it's you.
>
>As long as Jenn talks about me or my web site or the ideas I've recently
>presented here, she's implicity demanding that I reply.
>
>"Dropping it" means dropping it. Completely.

I see you started another Jenn attack thread.

Hmmm.


>> This little game of yours was probably a bit of a chuckle
>> back in the mid to late 90s, then something traumatic
>> happened and subsequently it has become one of the
>> primary focuses in life. You are depressed, and sparring
>> on Usenet only provides temporary relief. Do yourself and
>> your family a favor: change.
>
>Good advice for you to take, Mr. Sockpuppet. Of course you've got yourself
>convinced that interjecting yourself into conversations like this isn't a
>little game that you play. No, you're saving the world from me and me from
>myself.
>

No, I am playing games. I earn $50+/hr working at the computer, but
80% of this time is literally free to with what I want. I can afford
to act the fool. What's your excuse?

Eeyore
September 30th 06, 12:30 AM
Arny Krueger wrote:

> > Arny Krueger wrote:
>
> >> Jenn started it.
>
> Jenn can stop it.

You can stop it too.

Graham

Eeyore
September 30th 06, 12:31 AM
Arny Krueger wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote
>
> > What reality have I denied and what have I made up, Arny?
>
> I know better than to answer this question Jenn

What you mean is that you have no answer.

Graham

Eeyore
September 30th 06, 12:35 AM
Arny Krueger wrote:

> "Mr Fox" > wrote
> "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> >
> >>> Nobody's listening.
> >>
> >> You are, you posted a response.
> >>
> >> Gotcha!
> >>
> >> again.
> >
> > Oh yes, you got him real good that time. A real
> > achievement. Crack open the champagne.
>
> Turnabout is fair play, or isn't it?
>
> Nice job of trying to interject yourself into a coversation that you had no
> logical part in, by the way.

Logical part in ? He made a valid observation about your online behaviour,
which was the topic of this thread. Seems entirely 'logical' to me.

Graham

paul packer
September 30th 06, 01:49 AM
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:00:19 GMT, Jenn
> wrote:

>.I'll pay more attention, Sweetie.

I see. And why does Jon deserve a "Sweetie" and the rest of us don't,
pray?

And with a capital, yet! :-)

dizzy
September 30th 06, 03:11 AM
Jenn wrote:

>What reality have I denied and what have I made up, Arny?

You really should ignore him.

Mr Fox
September 30th 06, 03:25 AM
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 02:11:38 GMT, dizzy > wrote:

>Jenn wrote:
>
>>What reality have I denied and what have I made up, Arny?
>
>You really should ignore him.

I don't know about that. Jenn doesn't seem to have to expend much
energy in these exchanges to get Krueger running around amd around his
little wheel.

Arny Krueger
September 30th 06, 03:46 AM
"Eeyore" > wrote in
message
> Arny Krueger wrote:
>
>>> Arny Krueger wrote:
>>
>>>> Jenn started it.
>>
>> Jenn can stop it.
>
> You can stop it too.

OK, I can do what Jenn lacks the self-control to do. It is stopped.

Eeyore
September 30th 06, 07:35 AM
Mr Fox wrote:

> On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 02:11:38 GMT, dizzy > wrote:
>
> >Jenn wrote:
> >
> >>What reality have I denied and what have I made up, Arny?
> >
> >You really should ignore him.
>
> I don't know about that. Jenn doesn't seem to have to expend much
> energy in these exchanges to get Krueger running around amd around his
> little wheel.

LOL ! You're so right there.

Graham

Jenn
September 30th 06, 05:53 PM
In article >,
(paul packer) wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:00:19 GMT, Jenn
> > wrote:
>
> >.I'll pay more attention, Sweetie.
>
> I see. And why does Jon deserve a "Sweetie" and the rest of us don't,
> pray?
>
> And with a capital, yet! :-)

A little tit-for-tat, as it were.

Jenn
September 30th 06, 05:54 PM
In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Eeyore" > wrote in
> message
> > Arny Krueger wrote:
> >
> >>> Arny Krueger wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Jenn started it.
> >>
> >> Jenn can stop it.
> >
> > You can stop it too.
>
> OK, I can do what Jenn lacks the self-control to do. It is stopped.

See ya.

Jenn
September 30th 06, 05:55 PM
In article >,
dizzy > wrote:

> Jenn wrote:
>
> >What reality have I denied and what have I made up, Arny?
>
> You really should ignore him.

I know. His pathology can just be so interesting for a short time.

Eeyore
September 30th 06, 06:15 PM
Jenn wrote:

> "Arny Krueger" > wrote
> > "Eeyore" > wrote
> > > Arny Krueger wrote:
> > >>> Arny Krueger wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>> Jenn started it.
> > >>
> > >> Jenn can stop it.
> > >
> > > You can stop it too.
> >
> > OK, I can do what Jenn lacks the self-control to do. It is stopped.
>
> See ya.

You behave too ok ? No backhanded snide comments alright ?

Graham

George M. Middius
September 30th 06, 06:38 PM
DonkeyBorg rushes to protect the Krooborg from Big Bad Jenn.

> > See ya.

> You behave too ok ? No backhanded snide comments alright ?

Shut up, Poopie. You're a stupid donkey and your contributions are
worthless.





--

"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

Eeyore
September 30th 06, 09:16 PM
"George M. Middius" wrote:

> DonkeyBorg rushes to protect the Krooborg from Big Bad Jenn.
>
> > > See ya.
>
> > You behave too ok ? No backhanded snide comments alright ?
>
> Shut up, Poopie. You're a stupid donkey and your contributions are
> worthless.

Feeling unwanted are you ?

Graham

George M. Middius
September 30th 06, 10:06 PM
Der UnterEsel hat gebrullt:

> > Shut up, Poopie. You're a stupid donkey and your contributions are
> > worthless.

> Hee-haw! EEE-yaw! HNAWK!

Actually, I'm feeling embarrassed for you. Ever since you dimly realized
that Krooger really does have mental problems, you've been staggering
around like a brainwashed zombie waiting for your dark master to summon
you. If we all slap you in the face, maybe you'll snap out of it.





--

"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

October 2nd 06, 05:59 PM
Eeyore wrote:
> "George M. Middius" wrote:
>
> > DonkeyBorg rushes to protect the Krooborg from Big Bad Jenn.
> >
> > > > See ya.
> >
> > > You behave too ok ? No backhanded snide comments alright ?
> >
> > Shut up, Poopie. You're a stupid donkey and your contributions are
> > worthless.
>
> Feeling unwanted are you ?
>
> Graham

Allow me to express my admiration for your intellectual courage in
thinking for yourself rather than sticking to a chapel orthodoxy. It
might mean something to you to hear that someone does notice.
Ludovic Mirabel

October 2nd 06, 07:54 PM
Eeyore wrote:
> Mr Fox wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 02:11:38 GMT, dizzy > wrote:
> >
> > >Jenn wrote:
> > >
> > >>What reality have I denied and what have I made up, Arny?
> > >
> > >You really should ignore him.
> >
> > I don't know about that. Jenn doesn't seem to have to expend much
> > energy in these exchanges to get Krueger running around amd around his
> > little wheel.
>
> LOL ! You're so right there.
>
> Graham

A few days ago I felt like many sooner or later come to feel
about discussions with Arny the Indefatigable. " Oh, what the hell?
What is the point?" One can't help deciding that he is either
intellectually dishonest.to an nth degree or so paranoid that he feels
he is always under attack by malignant forces and so entitled to use
any weapon, however disgusting, to protect himself.
But now I'm encouraged by a man who shares his audio viewpoint,,
Eeyore, trying to talk sense to him.
So I'm transferring the argument from some 500 messages ago in the "
Kroobotgs feeble assault..." thread to here: The discussion was about
analogue vs. digital. I said:
>"I quoted to you repeatedly what D'Agostino of Krell,... ...
He interrupts :
"IMO, a well known technical charlatan with a good grasp of marketing
sizzle".
.....> Meitner of Bryston and-Museatex...
Krueger: "See above".
..... >and Stuart of Meridian
Krueger:interjects "A well-known advocate of digital audio".
> had to say about one of your articles of faith; superiority of all digital to >all analogue.

Krueger:
"Say what? That's just one more example of dozens, of your abilities to
substitute fantasy for reality, Ludo.
Got any more fairy tales to tell?

> They said it publicly where anyone can read it.
Krueger:
"No links provided - good proof that Ludo is making this up as he goes
along."
He, Krueger, is calling *me* a liar!
Now note this: On August 26th '05 -*yes August 2005*- in the "A note
for Mikey" thread in RAO I quoted to our Krueger what I had said to him
once before in the RAHE in 2003.
>.. D.Agostino says:, (The Stereophile, Dec.2003,p.78:

D'Agostino:"With DVD-audio and SACD, I think there is a
possibility of equaling vinyl"
Lander: You're not in the turntable business, and you do offer CD
players, but you've said that you *prefer vinyl to the CD*.
D'Agostino: *I still think vinyl is better*, but with the two formats
we're dealing with now, DVD-Audio and SACD, I think there's a
possibility of equaling vinyl-as soon as we decide not to stick with
our old methods of recording. I think we have to go back to the drawing
board as far as how we record SACDs, because I don't think their
potential has been realized.
Note!: just *a possibility*! .And with
SACD! Did not the RAO scientists + Krueger *prove* that SACD is no
better than CD while LP is infinitely worse.
Note!: D'Agostino designs highly respected *transistor* equipment
exclusively. No tubes , no TTs, no vinyl. But our Arny of RAO fame sees
fit to dismiss him as "technical charlatan" and me as a liar.
Not even paranoia justifies this.
Now for another one of Arny's "technical charlatans" high-end designer
Meitner. This one goes back to 2001, Dec 14. Yes, 2001!!.
In "Digital is bad for you" thread in RAHE I quoted to Arny from
Meitner interview in the." Positive feedback " 0802, 2001. Meitner
interviewed by Pappas said: :
"And if listening to music was considered as relaxation and was
supposed to be a way to relieve stress, then PCM, like CD playback,
certainly doesn't do it as well as some of the old analogue stuff
did."
" For sound quality, here's one simple test. I'm doing some
transfers of vinyl LPs onto DSD. And, you know, in DSD this is a
conversion with a minimal amount of damage to the original sound. If
you consider playing back vinyl and liking all the good things about
it, now we can have it in DSD format. We could possibly take some of
the clicks and pops out of it and still have the general good flavor
preserved. The same holds true for analogue tapes and any kind of
conversion"
That was in 2001. and 2005
In July of this year 2006 I said:in "Have we got the wrong end..." July
7
"It was not the first time I quoted D'Agostino to Arny either...
It turns out that Arny CAN read. He needs only five repeats to absorb
Agostino's name and.throw it back at me shouting hurrah.
I made his day because I said Krell instead of "D'Agostino's Krell".
Well. let's have it again: D'Agostino's Krell, D'Agostino's Krell,
D'Agostino's Krell. Eeny, meenie, miny Arny.
And now that we've played children' games how about demonstrating one
is not a schoolyard dunce after all and addressing our powerful mind to

task at hand:
1) Did those two designers ( with many other authorities, not of the
RAO tribe) say that digital has not as yet caught up with analogue
rendition of music or did they not?
2) When will we see that one reference to a professional journal (Name,

year, authors, title, page) that accepted and published the results of
...
....Arny Krueger's research into anything audio: ABX, superiority of
digital, anything, anything at all."
This is the man who dares to talk of my "fairy tales"
Should I repeat all this to him more frequently? Every year? Every
six months? Whatever he may want. I'll oblige.
Ludovic Mirabel

October 3rd 06, 12:15 AM
wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
> > Hi Arny,
> >
> > I recognise your skills in the PC soundcard area and associated ABX
> > testing.
> >
> > I am however puzzled why you stray outside your area of expertise in
> > what I can only call a perverse desire to find wrong with any poster you
> > happen to disagree with.
> >
> > May I suggest to you that you take stock and consider carefully your
> > motives in this absurd war you seek to wage with your demons.
> >
> >
> > Graham
>
> Don't make me like you, dude.
>
> Boon

I can't believe you're still here with your nonsense. I've gone for
over two years and you still haven't learned anything. Ba-foon,
Ba-foon, Ba-foon!!

Mike Coatham
October 3rd 06, 09:54 AM
> wrote in message
ups.com...
>
>
> I can't believe you're still here with your nonsense. I've gone for
> over two years and you still haven't learned anything. Ba-foon,
> Ba-foon, Ba-foon!!

Hmmm .......and speaking of learning, shouldn't that have read "
.........still haven't learnt anything" ??
After all, we were "taught" at school, not "teached" :)

Eeyore
October 3rd 06, 01:05 PM
Mike Coatham wrote:

> > wrote
> >
> > I can't believe you're still here with your nonsense. I've gone for
> > over two years and you still haven't learned anything. Ba-foon,
> > Ba-foon, Ba-foon!!
>
> Hmmm .......and speaking of learning, shouldn't that have read "
> ........still haven't learnt anything" ??
> After all, we were "taught" at school, not "teached" :)

I'm told it's standard American Emglish usage !

Graham

Mike Coatham
October 3rd 06, 08:38 PM
"Eeyore" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Mike Coatham wrote:
>
> > > wrote
> > >
> > > I can't believe you're still here with your nonsense. I've gone for
> > > over two years and you still haven't learned anything. Ba-foon,
> > > Ba-foon, Ba-foon!!
> >
> > Hmmm .......and speaking of learning, shouldn't that have read "
> > ........still haven't learnt anything" ??
> > After all, we were "taught" at school, not "teached" :)
>
> I'm told it's standard American Emglish usage !
>
> Graham

That figures.... mind you the head honcho in USA (G.W.Bush ) can't even
pronounce nuclear correctly so what chance for all the others :)
BTW I'll pretend I didn't see your deliberate attempt at the same with
"Emglish" :0