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peter
August 21st 06, 11:03 PM
I received a rode NTG-2 from bhphotovideo that looks non-new. I am sending
it back for an exchange. For peace of mind, could somone post a photo of
what the content looks like right after the box is opened?

Mike Rivers
August 21st 06, 11:24 PM
peter wrote:
> I received a rode NTG-2 from bhphotovideo that looks non-new. I am sending
> it back for an exchange. For peace of mind, could somone post a photo of
> what the content looks like right after the box is opened?

I think that a phone call to Rode would be appropriate. They can tell
you what's supplied so you can check if any accessories or
documentation is missing, and can check the serial number and see
whether it was ever registered to another owner. About the only one who
could send you a photo of a virgin box would be a dealer or someone who
just bought one - and once opened to take a photo, it wouldn't be
virgin any more, would it?

It's quite possible that you got one that they opened up for a
customer, or even - heaven forbid - someone bought it, tried it out,
decided it wasn't what he was looking for, and returned it. Wouldn't
you?

Unless it's obviously broken, I'd not return it immediately just on
principle. They don't wear out, at least not in a short time, and as
long as you have it, give it a try. Maybe you won't like it either. Or
if you do, and are quite sure that it's not totally new, call B&H and
ask for a discount. They'd probably rather do that than take it back.
And as long as Rode assures you that you can register it and get the
full warranty, what's to worry about?

Geoff
August 22nd 06, 12:44 AM
peter wrote:
> I received a rode NTG-2 from bhphotovideo that looks non-new. I am
> sending it back for an exchange. For peace of mind, could somone post
> a photo of what the content looks like right after the box is opened?

www.rode.com.au should show you whats in the box.

geoff

peter
August 22nd 06, 01:47 AM
"Mike Rivers" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> It's quite possible that you got one that they opened up for a
> customer, or even - heaven forbid - someone bought it, tried it out,
> decided it wasn't what he was looking for, and returned it. Wouldn't
> you?
>
> Unless it's obviously broken, I'd not return it immediately just on
> principle. They don't wear out, at least not in a short time, and as
> long as you have it, give it a try. Maybe you won't like it either. Or
> if you do, and are quite sure that it's not totally new, call B&H and
> ask for a discount. They'd probably rather do that than take it back.
> And as long as Rode assures you that you can register it and get the
> full warranty, what's to worry about?

There is a small brownish stain on the wind screen. There is also no shock
absorbing material inside the box (no foam, no cardboard). The mic is
inserted into the wind screen, inside an open plastic bag, inside the pouch.
I don't know if that's the way it is supposed to be, that's why I asked for
a photo. Also, one of the pins on the XLR jack is longer than the other two
pins by 2 to 3mm and has some scratch marks on it. Perhaps it's been pulled
out of a tight connector? I just don't feel very good about it.

It does come with everything shown in the web site the other poster
suggested (pouch, clip, thread adapter, wind screen).

I didn't try it out. I want to return it as is. If I ask for a discount,
they may think I make up the story to get a discount.

Geoff
August 22nd 06, 02:38 AM
peter wrote:
> "Mike Rivers" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>>
>> It's quite possible that you got one that they opened up for a
>> customer, or even - heaven forbid - someone bought it, tried it out,
>> decided it wasn't what he was looking for, and returned it. Wouldn't
>> you?
>>
>> Unless it's obviously broken, I'd not return it immediately just on
>> principle. They don't wear out, at least not in a short time, and as
>> long as you have it, give it a try. Maybe you won't like it either.
>> Or if you do, and are quite sure that it's not totally new, call B&H
>> and ask for a discount. They'd probably rather do that than take it
>> back. And as long as Rode assures you that you can register it and
>> get the full warranty, what's to worry about?
>
> There is a small brownish stain on the wind screen.

Possibly demo use in a gay porn movie ....

>There is also no
> shock absorbing material inside the box (no foam, no cardboard).

That is (I think) normal. Certainly is with other RODEs.

>The
> mic is inserted into the wind screen, inside an open plastic bag,
> inside the pouch. I don't know if that's the way it is supposed to
> be, that's why I asked for a photo.

Usually the bag it twisted shut and a desicant pouch inside. Windscreen
normallly separate.

>Also, one of the pins on the XLR
> jack is longer than the other two pins by 2 to 3mm and has some
> scratch marks on it. Perhaps it's been pulled out of a tight
> connector? I just don't feel very good about it.

Pin1 is deliberately longer, ground connects before anything else. Good
idea. Small scratches ? May have been plugged in just once.

> It does come with everything shown in the web site the other poster
> suggested (pouch, clip, thread adapter, wind screen).
>
> I didn't try it out. I want to return it as is. If I ask for a
> discount, they may think I make up the story to get a discount.

If it works fine keep it. If you feel it has been demoed and warrants a
discount or return, that's up to you. You would be within your rights.

geoff

peter
August 22nd 06, 05:38 AM
"Geoff" > wrote in message
...
>
> Usually the bag it twisted shut and a desicant pouch inside. Windscreen
> normallly separate.
>
> Pin1 is deliberately longer, ground connects before anything else. Good
> idea. Small scratches ? May have been plugged in just once.

Alright, I feel better now. I'll keep it.

Regarding the longer pin 1, the photo in the manual (fig. 9) shows all pins
to be the same length. I wish they would explain this so new owners don't
freak out.

Laurence Payne
August 22nd 06, 10:59 AM
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 00:47:13 GMT, "peter" > wrote:

>There is a small brownish stain on the wind screen. There is also no shock
>absorbing material inside the box (no foam, no cardboard). The mic is
>inserted into the wind screen, inside an open plastic bag, inside the pouch.
>I don't know if that's the way it is supposed to be, that's why I asked for
>a photo. Also, one of the pins on the XLR jack is longer than the other two
>pins by 2 to 3mm and has some scratch marks on it. Perhaps it's been pulled
>out of a tight connector? I just don't feel very good about it.
>
>It does come with everything shown in the web site the other poster
>suggested (pouch, clip, thread adapter, wind screen).

Don't worry about pin 1 on the XLR being longer. They're made that
way.

Looks like you've received a slightly used microphone. If all the
bits are there and it sounds OK, why worry? Perhaps you can negotiate
a small discount.

Ty Ford
August 22nd 06, 01:14 PM
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 20:47:13 -0400, peter wrote
(in article <lusGg.4116$hP6.475@trnddc04>):

>
> "Mike Rivers" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>>
>> It's quite possible that you got one that they opened up for a
>> customer, or even - heaven forbid - someone bought it, tried it out,
>> decided it wasn't what he was looking for, and returned it. Wouldn't
>> you?
>>
>> Unless it's obviously broken, I'd not return it immediately just on
>> principle. They don't wear out, at least not in a short time, and as
>> long as you have it, give it a try. Maybe you won't like it either. Or
>> if you do, and are quite sure that it's not totally new, call B&H and
>> ask for a discount. They'd probably rather do that than take it back.
>> And as long as Rode assures you that you can register it and get the
>> full warranty, what's to worry about?
>
> There is a small brownish stain on the wind screen. There is also no shock
> absorbing material inside the box (no foam, no cardboard). The mic is
> inserted into the wind screen, inside an open plastic bag, inside the pouch.
> I don't know if that's the way it is supposed to be, that's why I asked for
> a photo. Also, one of the pins on the XLR jack is longer than the other two
> pins by 2 to 3mm and has some scratch marks on it. Perhaps it's been pulled
> out of a tight connector? I just don't feel very good about it.
>
> It does come with everything shown in the web site the other poster
> suggested (pouch, clip, thread adapter, wind screen).
>
> I didn't try it out. I want to return it as is. If I ask for a discount,
> they may think I make up the story to get a discount.


Right. No foam, no cardboard insert. Windscreen on, in pouch.

Ty Ford





-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com

Ray Thomas
August 22nd 06, 01:15 PM
just one question....does the pin 1 wobble or slide in/out of it's mounting
hole ..ie is it loose ?
A short email query to Craig Parker at Rode here in Sydney, Australia
) will confirm/deny the 'longer pin 1' notion....my NT-5's
have equal pin 1 lengths.

Ray
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"peter" > wrote in message
news:QSvGg.4331$E_.2848@trnddc06...
>
> "Geoff" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> Usually the bag it twisted shut and a desicant pouch inside. Windscreen
>> normallly separate.
>>
>> Pin1 is deliberately longer, ground connects before anything else. Good
>> idea. Small scratches ? May have been plugged in just once.
>
> Alright, I feel better now. I'll keep it.
>
> Regarding the longer pin 1, the photo in the manual (fig. 9) shows all
> pins to be the same length. I wish they would explain this so new owners
> don't freak out.
>

Mike Rivers
August 22nd 06, 01:31 PM
peter wrote:

> I didn't try it out. I want to return it as is.

Then just do that. Return it and tell them that it's defective. They
don't have one of those silly "no mic returns due to health reasons"
policies, do they? If you want, describe the blemishes and ask them to
exchange it for one that's not scratched.

A connector with one pin 2-3 mm longer than the others probably
wouldn't fit the socket. That definitely doesn't sound right. Some XLRs
are built with pin 1 very slightly longer than the others so that it
mates first, but not 1/8" longer.

Klay Anderson
August 22nd 06, 01:47 PM
In article >,
"Geoff" > wrote:

> Pin1 is deliberately longer, ground connects before anything else. Good
> idea. Small scratches ? May have been plugged in just once.

Actually male pins are all the same length. The female Pin 1 is indeed set
forward in the jack to contact first, however.

--
Regards,

Klay Anderson
http://www.klay.com
+801-942-8346

Steve King
August 22nd 06, 02:01 PM
"Mike Rivers" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> peter wrote:
>
>> I didn't try it out. I want to return it as is.
>
> Then just do that. Return it and tell them that it's defective. They
> don't have one of those silly "no mic returns due to health reasons"
> policies, do they? If you want, describe the blemishes and ask them to
> exchange it for one that's not scratched.
>
> A connector with one pin 2-3 mm longer than the others probably
> wouldn't fit the socket. That definitely doesn't sound right. Some XLRs
> are built with pin 1 very slightly longer than the others so that it
> mates first, but not 1/8" longer.

B&H is a great company to do business with. My experience has been
excellent with many purchases. I routinely pay a little more to have
available their customer service. Call them. Tell them your concerns.
You'll be happy with the choices they offer I suspect.

Steve King

Geoff
August 22nd 06, 10:01 PM
Ray Thomas wrote:
> just one question....does the pin 1 wobble or slide in/out of it's
> mounting hole ..ie is it loose ?
> A short email query to Craig Parker at Rode here in Sydney, Australia
> ) will confirm/deny the 'longer pin 1' notion....my
> NT-5's have equal pin 1 lengths.

My NT5s have long Ones. A recent innovation I suspect.

geoff